Yared Nuguse Says, "I think I could run 46sec in the 400m"

Back in the late 80's early 90's there was a mile series in GB that had so much money they'd have 4 x 4 at the end of the meet for the milers to use over the leftover money! I know John Walker took part. And Gary Staines. I think Steve Scott was involved.

1:42.99 means no slower than 47.49 wrote:

If a man is capable of sub-1:43 800m, IMO a man is capable of F.A.T. 400m no slower than 47.49, F.A.T. sub-47.50 even if no official 400m time is available.

There have been 39 sub-1:43 800m outdoors. Several 1:43 800m men are also sub-3:35 1500m men.

Most of the names stated on this thread as possible sub-47 400m men, do not have a chance of racing sub-47 400m, Hocker, Nuguse, I've heard people say Jim Ryun had sub-47 400m potential. I say b.s. I cannot say Jim Ryun was a faster 400m man than Nick Symmonds or Steve Ovett. If Ryun were that fast, he never would have been bothered 1500m or one mile, except for variety every now and then.

Ryun was absolutely faster than Symmonds over 400m. Symmonds ran a 47.xx open 400 in the summer in Europe in peak shape. Ryun ran a 46.9 440y (longer than 400) in April on dirt in a relay, after having already run a 3:55 mile (3:51 when adjusted for the dirt track).

He closed the last 300 of a 3:38 1500 in 36.5, on chewed up dirt (race was at the end of the meet).

Ovett never showed that kind of speed either. He was faster than Symmonds though.

Peter Elliott ran 1.42.97 and 48.2

Big car daddy wrote:

The point? Nuguse told us what he can run and you all don't believe him even though he is a smart kid at Notre Dame who happens to be one of the fastest Americans of all time. But you are guys sitting at a computer who think you know better than the smart guy who is doing the training. It is very insulting. Somehow Brazier has done what Nuguse stated. And many others can do it.

Gabby Thomas is smarter. At a smarter school. She's made some dumb whereabouts decisions.

Big car daddy wrote:

The point? Nuguse told us what he can run and you all don't believe him even though he is a smart kid at Notre Dame who happens to be one of the fastest Americans of all time. But you are guys sitting at a computer who think you know better than the smart guy who is doing the training. It is very insulting. Somehow Brazier has done what Nuguse stated. And many others can do it.

Lol... did you actually listen to that part of the podcast? I'll paraphrase the audio for you...

Question: What do you think you could run in an open 400m?

Nuguse: "Ummm.... Trying to think about what I've run in 400's... I have slow starting speed which is kind of my problem... I'm gonna just throw out 46 sec and hope that's reasonable."

LOL. No, no its not reasonable. But he clearly was non-committal and throwing out a number. This is an interesting discussion thread but there is no need to roast him for this imho.

Those were smart decisions even though she is not as smart as Nuguse.

go bigger wrote:

Uhm, I don't care if Brazier thinks he can fly. He ran 46 indoor and he ran 3:35. You seem to have a hard time dealing with facts.

Dealing with the facts??

Uhm, Brazier can't fly, he can't play WR in the NFL nor will he ever be a factor in an open 400.

Like Brazier, Naguse believes he can be elite outside of his discipline and he goes on to declare he could hit 46 in an open 400. ( Not that 46 gets him anywhere in a collegiate or DL 400.....maybe HS though)

Both are delusional.

Both need to focus on their event more and maybe actually try and line up at the Olympics.

Brazier is not Korir or Saruni.

Both could mop the floor with Brazier in a 400.

(Korir mops the floor with Brazier in the 800 too from now on)

Naguse is completely delusional and doesn't even deserve consideration in an open 400.

Or an 800 for that matter.

....until he proves otherwise, his Tokyo "performance" shows he doesn't even deserve US fan support.

Brazier ran 46 indoor so he could most likely run 45 outdoor with some training. Why would Nuguse not be capable of 46.9 if Brazier can run 45? Why do you all get your undies in a bundle regarding their personalities instead of dealing with the data? So we have a guy about the same age as Nuguse who does more than what Nuguse says he could do and you continue to think it is impossible just because you don't like the guys.

Big car daddy wrote:

Isiah Harris split 45 in college. He also was about the top XC runner in his state while in HS. He split sub 4 in the DMR. But I guess Nuguse can only run 48.

In 2015, in person, I watched Harris win the New England HS championships 800m in 1:52, and return 45 minutes later to place 4th in the 200 running 21.82a. As a high schooler. Nuguse would struggle to break 22.5 even now. Not a good pair of athletes to compare in an argument about 400m speed.

That is impossible, by Jim Ryun or any human. Prove it!

Going over Olympic 1500m finals, I have only found 4 men who sprinted 37.xx final 300m: John Walker & Ivo van Damme, 1976 Olympics, men 1500m F, Fermin Cacho, 1992 men 1500m final and Taoufik Makhloufi, 2016, men 1500m final.

You are either intentionally lying, passing on a rumor you know nothing about or you made an error. No human can pass 1200m in 3:01.5 then sprint 36.5 300m

misterpennis wrote:

I’d be surprised if there were any sub 3:35 guy in history who could go under 47.0 in an open 400. Maybe Ryun

Donny Braz

As mentioned Seb Coe. Manangoi ran 46.5h in 2013. Brazier yes. I wonder if Ferguson Rotich could have in his younger days.

Sounds like a tetsrun thread.

Just go out and run one.

Terrence Herrington was a 3:52 miler and ran a 46.4 open 400

These threads always crack me up.

Here’s another reminder that 49/50 seconds is SLOW.

48 is spot on for most elite milers. Give or take a second for the bell curve of athletes.

Donovan Brazier also said he was going to try out for the NFL. People say stupid sh!t sometimes. Runners are always overestimating their abilities as well.

not even close wrote:

The greatest middle distance runner (800m to mile) in history, Seb Coe ran 46 for 400m.

Ngoose ain’t running 46, especially with that limp, goofy running technique.

Yeah this. He has no idea about the 400 clearly.

So many distance running fans think their idols can run 45/46 for 400, but if you look through history there are VERY few that ever ran a decent 1500 who have actually done it. Coe did and he ran 1:41

And that's all the evidence anyone should need on this subject.

Dad split 46.9. I am not sure he ever ran a 440 out of the blocks.