Katir stays HOT - 7:27.64 Spanish national record for 3000.

kumquat wrote:

Paco Ramos Catnapper wrote:

Awkward moments of silence between Katir and McSweyn following the race, which has been unusual for the Spaniard.

Katir speaks almost no English.

Flash quote (in English, not translated)

"I had a dream to be part of the Olympic Games. I've worked very hard to achieve this goal and this performance is the consequence of working hard and training in the mountains.

The first time I won in Gateshead it gave me a lot of confidence and positive energy and I thought 'hey, I can make it'. Of course I will respect all the other athletes that are much better than I am (in Tokyo), but I'll fight as much as I can to make the podium. First of all I have to get to the final and with all the respect for the other participants."

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

Iron Bars wrote:

You believe Mo Farah is clean? How naive can you be? Anybody associated with Jama Aden, who was freaking arrested after police discovered gym bags packed with EPO and syringes in his hotel room, is on drugs, 100% .

Were those drugs found in Spain or somewhere else?

Sabadell, ESP

So mething not adding up with Muhammed Katir! I know one should be treated innocent until proven guilty( with concrete evidence) but what we are seeing is completely out of the blue performances. Reminds me of Hamza Drioch and the guy who won 2008 Olympic games 1500m men.

The first time I heard of Moh Katir was a few weeks ago when he outkicked Nicholas Kimeli of Kenya in a rainy race in Britain (Gateshead?). Everyone including Kimeli was surprised by his win. Little did we know that his name would now be mentioned in the same line as the favorite to win an Olympic title in Tokyo. Remember Abraham Kiptum, Salwa Eid Nasser and others who have fallen by the side? Their common denominator? Spanish coaches(mangers/agents).

ABDUSALAM wrote:

So mething not adding up with Muhammed Katir! I know one should be treated innocent until proven guilty( with concrete evidence) but what we are seeing is completely out of the blue performances. Reminds me of Hamza Drioch and the guy who won 2008 Olympic games 1500m men.

The first time I heard of Moh Katir was a few weeks ago when he outkicked Nicholas Kimeli of Kenya in a rainy race in Britain (Gateshead?). Everyone including Kimeli was surprised by his win. Little did we know that his name would now be mentioned in the same line as the favorite to win an Olympic title in Tokyo. Remember Abraham Kiptum, Salwa Eid Nasser and others who have fallen by the side? Their common denominator? Spanish coaches(mangers/agents).

You refer to pineda. His list is a who’s who of odd characters and drug positives. It is rumored that the Aden empire was transferred to his care.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

Looks like the doping accusations are getting to him.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRST5P8NjxJ/

per google translate - They have managed to keep us divided

they blindfolded us, they covered our ears

we only live, consume and demand

a dog is given the leftover and is more grateful.

khcglhc wrote:

That 5000m was in early June. Back in May Katir was “only” running 13:08 and in early March he was being crushed by Jakob, the Belgian Kimeli and Mechaal over 3000m and having trouble holding off Nordas.

We are in July now. Katir continued his progression…

Jakob can’t follow anymore.

The 5000m of 13:08 was run in terrible conditions on May 23 that Jakob only ran a 3:36 in. It was a 12:55ish type performance for sure. He beat Kimeli (12:51 PB) who ran a strong race, and Krop as well. I definitely would imagine Jakob took notice at it. Katir has been running phenomenally since, but the May 12th 3:33 FTW was the beginning of this big jump. With better competition and conditions the amazing times have come.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

khcglhc wrote:

That 5000m was in early June. Back in May Katir was “only” running 13:08 and in early March he was being crushed by Jakob, the Belgian Kimeli and Mechaal over 3000m and having trouble holding off Nordas.

We are in July now. Katir continued his progression…

Jakob can’t follow anymore.

The 5000m of 13:08 was run in terrible conditions on May 23 that Jakob only ran a 3:36 in. It was a 12:55ish type performance for sure. He beat Kimeli (12:51 PB) who ran a strong race, and Krop as well. I definitely would imagine Jakob took notice at it. Katir has been running phenomenally since, but the May 12th 3:33 FTW was the beginning of this big jump. With better competition and conditions the amazing times have come.

yes. maybe went on a hard doping regimen after european indoors until early May. There was certainly a change after that 2 month break in competition.

i have no idea how quickly this stuff works. And how long it will last after.

5000 favorite? wrote:

He's glowing now.

#2dagills

Two questions that haven't been answered about Katir:

1. How does he perform in high temp, high humidity conditions?

2. How does he do in a surging, fartlek-type race in a championship?

I agree Jakob has a big problem now but we're forgetting another big player:Getnet Wale. He ran a 7:24i 3k this year and a 12:53 w/o a rabbit where he won the Ethio Oly Trials. He's also a world class steeplechaser. At the World U20 champs, the guy fell twice and still medaled in the steeple. He is a tough SOB.

And Wale beat Katir in the 1500m this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8Jh9C5Xfg

BekeleKip wrote:

And Wale beat Katir in the 1500m this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8Jh9C5Xfg

Katir looks like an entirely different athlete in that relatively slow race.

high school xc coach wrote:

yes. maybe went on a hard doping regimen after european indoors until early May. There was certainly a change after that 2 month break in competition.

i have no idea how quickly this stuff works. And how long it will last after.

Perhaps, though this would not fit into the doping evasion stuff either because he would be added to the AIU list and was training at the national training center. So if he did a major doping regimen he would've had to get lucky with no random tests and it would have to be out of his system by May 23.

zoomN wrote:

Passant wrote:

They have the endurance but I'm not sure if they are 3:28 1500m guys.

Getnet WALE is a 3000m steeplechase expert

The only thing he showed is endurance.

Kiplimo kicking Katir will be a challenge.

They are not 3:28 1500m guys and neither is Katir. Neither was Mo Farah. IF Monaco or a bouncy indoor track is your personal best, DON’T waste my time with those performances when trying to make a point. Intelligence still matters to some of us.

And you are?

Yep...a NOBODY!

Aouita 84 wrote:

zoomN wrote:

They are not 3:28 1500m guys and neither is Katir. Neither was Mo Farah. IF Monaco or a bouncy indoor track is your personal best, DON’T waste my time with those performances when trying to make a point. Intelligence still matters to some of us.

And you are?

Yep...a NOBODY!

Because you cannot refute my point, you attack the messenger, thus manifesting a paucity of capacity to debate intellectual superiors.

we will see in the long run... now i am taking his results with a grain of salt..

i mean,, he runs 7:27 and isnt't even gassed out, running around like he didnt run anything...

BekeleKip wrote:

And Wale beat Katir in the 1500m this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8Jh9C5Xfg

Nothing new here because he also raked 4 before another Moroccan born Spanish and Ingerbrigsten in the European Championship (Mars 2021).

I think he even didn't rank 1 in the Spanish ChampionShip this year.

Katir gradually changed during the last 3 months to reach to top where he is now.

It's clear that Katir had an endurance problem in these two races

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8Jh9C5Xfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5cmOhpjSQ4

hill_runner wrote:

we will see in the long run... now i am taking his results with a grain of salt..

i mean,, he runs 7:27 and isnt't even gassed out, running around like he didntrun anything...

Contrast that with the European Indoors where Katir was gassed chasing the Ingebrigtsen long wind-up, which saw the Norwegian close in 2:21.51. Katir is seen sprawled on the track for several minutes following his 2:22.72 close. The 7:49 was 14 seconds off his Karlsruhe time, so his body was used to running faster at the same distance. Looks like it was the closing laps which flattened him.

Katir paced himself to an auto Q by winning his heat with a 2:25.65 final K.

A couple of months later, he's running two separate 2:18s in practice, six minutes apart.

Then he's running 2:19.1 pace during a 1500m and holds that an additional 500m without looking gassed in the slightest.

Right. Pass the salt shaker across the table when you're done.

/Bob on the Bubble.

Passant wrote:

It's clear that Katir had an endurance problem in these two races

Yea, and we know what fixed that.

Not that you'd care.