COLE MF HOCKER!!!!!!

AP5000 wrote:

421 men have run the 1500 faster than Hocker. Let's ease up on how incredible he is talk.

No one beat him today.

The hype around hocker is suffocating all the guys who think he will win are riduculous 46 people have run faster than him however if he runs the way lewandowski does he may have a chance to medal as a lot of the time the bronze medalist is someone who charges from way far back. If he is clever and times his finish well there is a chance he can make up ground for bronze

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

The hype around hocker is suffocating all the guys who think he will win are riduculous 46 people have run faster than him however if he runs the way lewandowski does he may have a chance to medal as a lot of the time the bronze medalist is someone who charges from way far back. If he is clever and times his finish well there is a chance he can make up ground for bronze

“You guys are suffocating and ridiculous, but I’m going to say the exact same thing…”

Who cares his college accolades. And you say no one beat him today in a country trials with slow 1500 guys as if that somehow trumps the fact that 421 people are faster than Hocker. Jakob is 8th all time, btw. That seems are far more relevant fact.

c7runner7 wrote:

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

The hype around hocker is suffocating all the guys who think he will win are riduculous 46 people have run faster than him however if he runs the way lewandowski does he may have a chance to medal as a lot of the time the bronze medalist is someone who charges from way far back. If he is clever and times his finish well there is a chance he can make up ground for bronze

“You guys are suffocating and ridiculous, but I’m going to say the exact same thing…”

Wrong I am saying if he is smart he can make ground at the end like lewandowski does I never said hocker will win gold like other people and the chance of him getting a medal is ver low but there is a chance if he is smart which from this race we know his tactics are awful. Hocker is not winning gold in tokyo.

Hocker ran sub-2:50 indoors.

He greased the wheels outdoors with his 1:46.3.

He proved he has the strength with a 13:19 in the 5.

No way he's not a 3:32-3:33 guy fresh in a <>3:32-paced race.

In my opinion though Hocker will get smoked however I am weighing both sides of the arguement

AP5000 wrote:

Who cares his college accolades. And you say no one beat him today in a country trials with slow 1500 guys as if that somehow trumps the fact that 421 people are faster than Hocker. Jakob is 8th all time, btw. That seems are far more relevant fact.

*A country with the reigning Olympic Champion in the 1500 (who raced today).

*They give medals to the guys who cross the line first, second, and third… not the guys with the best PRs.

I don’t think he’ll beat Jakob. But I think he can run a heck of a lot faster than 3:35. And if Centro won in 2016, than it’s not inconceivable Hocker could win a medal… probably not likely, but it’s possible.

AP5000 wrote:

This Olympics 1500 final will not be tactical. Not with Jakob in it who can run 328.

You are a f*cking moron and have yet to make an intelligent post in this thread.

Ingebrigtsen will not pull a Cheruiyot and run 3:29 from the front. He’ll go through 800 between 1:59 and 2:01 and then take off to win in the 3:32 - 3:34 range.

Obviously Hocker isn’t going to win the Olympic final but anyone saying he can’t run at least 3:32 right now is a dumb@ss. Guys who are at their limit running 3:35 don’t close in 52. They don’t run 3:50 indoors, either.

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

c7runner7 wrote:

“You guys are suffocating and ridiculous, but I’m going to say the exact same thing…”

Wrong I am saying if he is smart he can make ground at the end like lewandowski does I never said hocker will win gold like other people and the chance of him getting a medal is ver low but there is a chance if he is smart which from this race we know his tactics are awful. Hocker is not winning gold in tokyo.

Okay, well I agree for the most part. And so does the majority of Let’s Run. I don’t think anyone would say he’s a lock to win Gold or even medal. People on this thread were just expressing the optimistic chance of him doing his best. It’s just exciting there’s a chance he could possibly medal, and potentially even shockingly win it all like Centro did.

DownUndah wrote:

calm down pls wrote:

An indoor 3:50 is close to an outdoor 3:32 in good conditions. And now he's in better shape. I guess you're trolling, though

Tell me why it is 1 Cooper Teare won that race and outdoors beat cole in coopers quickest 1500 race and didnt run the standard so Cooper is already ahead of Cole time trial race wise and then you think he can knock off 3 seconds like its a cake walk

Teare could also probably run close to 3:32 right now. 3:35 is not a huge challenge for them -- their performances have demonstrated that. The Oregon Twilight meet you're talking about was early in the season. I think right now they're around 3:32 fitness in good conditions with the world's best pulling them along. It's just an estimation, but a reasonable one.

The reigning champ.5 years ago. Centro isn't anywhere close to his former 330 self. And he barely beat him. For people to think that's enough to warrant medal specation is absurd.

I don't think you have even the remotest clue how much faster 7 seconds is in the 1500 (Jakob v. Hocker).

AP5000 wrote:

The reigning champ.5 years ago. Centro isn't anywhere close to his former 330 self. And he barely beat him. For people to think that's enough to warrant medal specation is absurd.

I don't think you have even the remotest clue how much faster 7 seconds is in the 1500 (Jakob v. Hocker).

Centro closed in 38.00 to win Gold in a 3:50 race. Hocker closed 38.6 in a 3:35 race.

So it’s conceivable Hocker can medal with a slower race-as typical in Olympics. The Olympic record is only 3:32. Hocker closing in 38.6 is actually more relevant than Jakob running 3:28 because the odds the Olympic final is a 3:28 race are extremely low. The odds the winner closes in 38. something is extremely high.

I’m not betting on Hocker to beat Jakob. Hardly anyone is. But it’s still conceivable he could win a medal. He probably won’t, but he could. This isn’t hard to understand.

AP5000 wrote:

The reigning champ.5 years ago. Centro isn't anywhere close to his former 330 self. And he barely beat him. For people to think that's enough to warrant medal specation is absurd.

I don't think you have even the remotest clue how much faster 7 seconds is in the 1500 (Jakob v. Hocker).

Of the 421 faster guys, how many have closed in 12.2 in a 3:35 or faster race? How many have closed in 38.6 or faster? That’s much more relevant than PRs considering the Olympic Finals will most likely come down to who can run the fastest over 300m in a 3:32-3:36 race.

He probably won't but he could is a hedge. I mean sure, of course he could a medal. When Centro won he was a 330 guy. Yeah it was a slow race, but he was at the time a 330 guy.

Put this in perspective: the top 4 Kenyans at their trials all ran under 134.5 and three were 333.1 or under. At 6,000 feet. That's just Kenya. Those guys can all kick. I have no idea why people are convinced Hocker has a kick that other don't have other than because they just witnessed him out guys who can't kick. People think he can out kick Jakob? Based on what?

He's got it on the rankings but it is just absurd to not accept a 3:50 mile as a qualifier. That converts to 3:32.96. 2 seconds under the qualifying time on conversion is not accepted. Just bizarre.

With that receeding hairline (at age 20?), he looks older than Centro. I think he just developed early and is peaking early, and will fade early compared to other runners his age. Poor guy probably only has 1-2 more years before the downward slide begins...

I have no idea how many of those 421 guys can close like that, but I am certain a lot of them can or close to it. I am certain Jakob I can do it or very close.

Also, this Olympic 1500 will be different. They saw that debacle last time and the top guys arent going to risk getting out kicked by a 335 guy for a gold medal. They will know exactly what each of their competitors are capable of and plan accordingly.

YOUR MOVE indeed.....

Hocker OBLITERATES Centro.

Medal potential.