bistro montage wrote:
Interesting that he did this 10k in victory spikes. Super aggressive structure and lots of strain on the achilles for 25 laps.
This ^
There was a lot more to last night's race than it appeared.
bistro montage wrote:
Interesting that he did this 10k in victory spikes. Super aggressive structure and lots of strain on the achilles for 25 laps.
This ^
There was a lot more to last night's race than it appeared.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
bistro montage wrote:
Yes, end of an era.
In 2017, he ran 28:18 ftw at The Portland Track Festival and then 29:04 for 5th at USAs. Not sure his performance today marks any appreciable decline from there, and yeah, it’s about what we could reasonably expect for a 35 year old Rupp in marathon training.
+1
Some say Rupp is done, based on the fact that an evenly-paced 28-flat is a long way from his glory days. Others say Rupp trained through the race, and might even have done a workout earlier in the day to wear himself out, so a 28-flat was actually very good.
But the truth is, we don't know! Why argue vehemently about a subject when you don't have all the facts? Because the truth is, if Rupp went into the race tired, due to a workout earlier in the day or just general heavy training, that WOULD have affected his performance - but we don't know what he did leading up to the race. Perhaps he did 8 x 1 mile hard that morning.
Alternatively, he might have been rested and hoping for a 27-flat, but truly no longer has the ability to do so. But we don't know that either.
I think it would be nice if we could know a little more about what was going on in the training of runners we follow, but I suppose they sometimes have good reasons for not giving everything away. All we have is this one recent piece of information about Rupp: a 28:00 10k, with not much of a kick. For a runner of his caliber, that's not a great time if it's truly the best he can do, and not a bad time if he was training through.
The verdict: INCONCLUSIVE.
Operation Overlord wrote:
Why argue vehemently about a subject when you don't have all the facts?
Because it's LetsRun! That's what we do here.
Bullet_Proof wrote:...,
And now we have Sugaru. He is not any different. A flash in the pan.
Rupp has surpassed those aforementioned one-hit wonders. He has even surpassed Sugaru if both were to quit today and we analyzed their results over all races.
Sugaru cannot win. He wont win the Olympics because the possibility of choking under pressure is looming.
You do have some valid points, but I think point to Osako as a flash in the pan is not correct. He still holds the Japanese 5000 record and at one point also had the marathon NR and I believe the first sub 206 by a Japanese man. Those are off top of my head. I think he is a real medal threat for the Olympics.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Who beat who in the recent half marathon in Eugene, a race distance which is closer to what Rupp is targeting right now?
I'm not sure I follow this logic. A half-marathon is just fancy 10k and other than sharing part of a name is nothing like a marathon.
Oh Please wrote:
You do have some valid points, but I think point to Osako as a flash in the pan is not correct. He still holds the Japanese 5000 record and at one point also had the marathon NR and I believe the first sub 206 by a Japanese man. Those are off top of my head. I think he is a real medal threat for the Olympics.
and he only turned 29 earlier this week
Stick a fork in me please! wrote:
Yes, the man who won the Olympic Trials by 42 seconds only 15 months ago, ran the fastest time ever by an American-born runner on a legal marathon course three years ago, and is heading to the Olympics for the fourth time is clearly "done."
Man, I wish my career was "done."
Right lol. It’ll be the same ones cheering for his success in the marathon.
Rastus wrote:
https://www.podiumrunner.com/culture/42-runners-under-210-at-one-japanese-marathon/adsfadsf wrote:
I know it's hair-splitting, but Rupp's marathon PR is from Prague, 2018 where he won. He lost to Osaka 6 months later at Chicago, shortly before his Achilles surgery.
Well, technically Osaka didn't beat Rupp in his PR race, Rupp came first in Prague, 2018 in 2:06. Osaka ran 2:04 later, but not in Prague. So yes, Osaka has the faster PR, but didn't beat Rupp in either of their PR races.
That was my thread too 🧠. I make all the hottest takes.
alooo wrote:
You could say the same thing about Chepty boy. 3:37 in third place. Got doors blown off.
Chepty is DONE!
Quoting this guy.
It was a 28 minute paced race.
Apparently people got lazy and had to sprint to get under 28.
Shame on their collective coaches for not getting what the splits meant, and yelling for them to adjust.
People on the board hate Rupp.
Mostly the website owners.
So everyone piles on Rupp.
He seems pretty fit to me.
The Osaka Oguru guy running two 10k’s in one night is a big ‘notice me’ cry....
So sad.
Perhaps he wasn’t breast fed long enough...
Just pointing out, 28:00.37 is under the ratified American Masters M35 record. Ben True blew that away 3 months ago, but we won't ratify that until December.
He is training for the marathon and this 10k is part of it.