Athing Mu 4:16.06 Today!!!

yosoy wrote:

The Dirty Duck wrote:

Nobody in the world has more potential in the 800 right now. She is capable of a great 1500, too, obviously. But who really cares how fast her 1500 is.

Funny, cause I remember a certain American 400 meter gold medalist who because he had the "right body type" had everybody here salivating about his 800 meter potential. The message board practically begged him to take it seriously.

Who was that? Warner?

But I agree with the first poster. She’s a stud in the 400/800 who cares about the 1500. Sry but the longer the events go the less interest is in them for casual fans.

stop the nonsense wrote:

So compared to one of the best ever

She's a second slower f400

2 seconds slower at 600

4 seconds slower at 800

And 17 seconds slower at 1500

But somehow we're supposed to get super excited over the 17 seconds slower 1500

Like that time substantiates or makes her away more impressive Runner

I think the 400 800 combo is what made her really impressive and this is just people looking for something to get excited about

Yes we are.

The issue with Letsrun is that 99% of the people posting on this board have never been race winners at any level so the only comparison you make is by time.

People who win races routinely know that each race is different. She clearly ran this as an over distance race, early season, probably in a heavy training block.

Ran the race with 1500m runners at a 70 second pace which she felt was slow and kicked away.

At no point, should anyone assume that this is the fastest she can/will run.

In 2019, it would have ranked 19th in the 1500 for NCAAs, she went out in 1:05.9 per 400m pace for the first 300m before slowing down, so if we assumed she could roughly keep a 66-67 pace for the whole race, we could expect her to run a 4:07-4:10 right now. She ran a 17 second pr, was probably in the middle of training, and probably wasn't running it for a specific time. Her 1500 was certainly not world class but for a 18 year old college freshman, it was a good indication of her fitness and strength.

Should we go nuts if Hocker runs a 28:30 10K?

Other than Caster Semenya, who has this incredible range from 200m to the 1500?

For you distance geeks, who don't pay attention to high school and AAU sprints, she was the most dominate runner for the last 4 years. I recall her winning the 200, 400, 800 and 1,500 at AAU Nationals.

Whatever event she focuses on will be her best. Expect several global gold medals from her, if she doesn't get hurt. She is a once in a generation talent.

Thereandback wrote:

Thereandback wrote:

It's amazing how teen females are girls or women depending on the situation. For example, was Athing a woman when she was 18?

Wait a minute...she is 18. For God's sake when did 18yr olds become women?

When they are sleeping with republican congressmen who are 2x+ their age of course....

stop the nonsense wrote:

So compared to one of the best ever

She's a second slower f400

2 seconds slower at 600

4 seconds slower at 800

And 17 seconds slower at 1500

But somehow we're supposed to get super excited over the 17 seconds slower 1500

Like that time substantiates or makes her away more impressive Runner

I think the 400 800 combo is what made her really impressive and this is just people looking for something to get excited about

don't be so obtuse...

she is running a time that would rank within the top 32 time nationally for NCAA women, while being an elite 4/8 athlete!

In 2018, 4:16.06 would have ranked 22nd nationally for the outdoor descending list, six seconds off the collegiate lead of 4:10...

In 2019, it would have ranked 19th.

In 2017, 23rd.

This would be the equivalent of a 45/1:44 19 year old guy throwing down a 3:57-8 mile with a big close.

So what she's far off Semenya? Give her 5-10 years

Every 1:58 runner.

Men are women wrote:

Every 1:58 runner.

in their dreams

Most of you guys are haters.

NCAA #3 is a solid for anyone. The exciting part is that she closed in 62. I bet all of the women below her on the list are impressed.

This is a total nothing Burger of a thread! If you just want to be Starstruck and hype up your favorite athlete and say that everything they do is amazing, have fun, but it doesn't make for an interesting conversation

Facts are facts. She's 2 seconds off world record time at 400 m and 26 seconds off world record time at 1500 m

There's no story here. Nothing special going on With her 1500 M time. If you want to compare it to other NCAA freshman, so what, almost none of them become Elite level 1500 meter runners

You don't get the point that she's already an elite-level 400m 800-meter Runner and you want to compare her to good college level runners

Guaranteed she's not going to focus on the 1500 m. And she's not going to make an Olympic 1500 m probably ever in her career. And you don't get the main point that anyone that could run those times for 400m and 800m could do the same for a 15

If she ran around 4 minutes then you'd have a story. Now you just have what everyone would expect and predict except for you who is enthralled with the obvious!

Honestly 416 seems a little slow. Think her best distance is 600 m. That's probably where her foot speed and endurance are at their best. Seems to have more of a chance to tire at the 800 and up. I think she'll be a great 400 to 800 Runner. Don't think she's going to focus on 1500

Martinez 1:57.91- 4:00.94

Lipsey 1:57.38 - 4:04.98

Brown 1:58.01 - 4:06.06

Green 1:58.19 - 4:06.66

Wright 1:58.22 - 4:08.6

Uceny 1:58.37 - 4:00.06

Roesler 1:59.04 - 4:12.93

Price 1:59.1 - 4:13.98

Houlihan 1:59.92 - 3:54.99

You are correct that it would be a bad dream for them to run 4:16 because nearly all 1:58 women run much faster than 4:16.

where are the 200/400 prs

I don’t think anyone on this list ran these 1500 times when they were only an 18 year old college freshmen. Not even close. Or the 800 times for that matter. I’ve been trying to find the video from the dual meet - I’d love to see this race. I’m sure Mu was just trying to win the race easiest way possible, probably just casually strolling in like she does in her 50 second 4x4 relay legs. Makes it look effortless!

none on your list were ranked

1st at 400m

1st at 800m

3rd at 1500m

in the NCAA as college freshmen.

The excitement comes from comparing her to collegians and freshmen. Very few 400/800 types ever actually post a 1500 result, so Athing's race turned discussion from 'what if?' to 'whatta time!'

The fact that she is now ahead of many 1500 specialists on full scholarships makes it even more interesting.

That Athing is world class at 400/800 is very nice, but not yet so interesting, as she has not yet competed in an international meet.

moron the aztec wrote:

That Athing is world class at 400/800 is very nice, but not yet so interesting, as she has not yet competed in an international meet.

Youth Olympics, Pan Am U20 & Senior, USA vs. Europe

The point is that we already know that Mu is very good at 400-800m. So sub 2 women are a better comparison than any 19 year old college runners. I'd guess anything slower than 4:20 would have yielded comments of disappointment. But it would have been OK. If I am not mistaken Wilson ran 1:58 4:24 at 19 but what does it matter when the focus is clearly 800m. With proper preparation almost any sub 2 400 800 woman will run 4:10 or faster. And Wilson ran 4:06 a few years later. Still quite a bit to go as 4:04 might get one into a worlds/Olympics or not. 4:16 is good for Mu, sub 4:10 probaby possible with good pacers but still no huge surprise or indication for world class in the 1500m. I'd rather hope to see her in great sub 2 800m races than in irrelevant 4:09 race.

Hospital Guru wrote:

Should we go nuts if Hocker runs a 28:30 10K?

As a 18 yr old in a duel meet? Hell yes.