Yalnago wrote:
Then went on to trip Mo Ahmed 4+ times in the final. about time they pay for their actions.
+1000
Yalnago wrote:
Then went on to trip Mo Ahmed 4+ times in the final. about time they pay for their actions.
+1000
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
JBaller33 wrote:
Apparently he just said in an interview that if the DQ holds, he is leaving and will not race the 3,000.
So much about "not being crushed mentally". That's just the icing on the cake, even more unsportsmanlike behavior. Threatening European Athletics to not participate as best European runner in a very important event just because he - rightfully! - got DQ'ed is really at the bottom.
Why can't he just accept the decision and move on and show us what he can do in the 3000? Or is he afraid that he is so crushed mentally that he will lose?
That's the difference between Jakob and other great runners in the past. Geb would have laughed this off and crushed the 3k.
Lewandowski even very much shrugged off congratulations about his 1500m gold, arriving due to Ingebrigtsen's DQ. "No, no, I'm still waiting." That's a true competitor/champion, Jakob might be the fitter runner these days but this behavior is really annoying and bad for the sport.
I mean, the DQ is BS. It’s a lot of what’s wrong with indoor track and why is Americans typically can’t stand it.
Do think Lewandowski is a really classy guy. Competitive as hell too.
facepalm wrote:
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Agree - rules are there for a reason.
No one in tennis ever complains when the Hawkeye calls a ball that was just one inch out or in either "out or in", it just gets accepted. In T&F people just get mad/upset when their favorite athletes get DQ'ed and try to find 3423432 reasons of why the DQ should be overturned.
This is not about an inch, this is a FULL foot inside the track. And the way how it happened was all his own fault. Many, many athletes got DQ'ed during this championship for exactly the same reason. How would they feel if Jakob now suddenly decide to get special treatment just because he has the largest fanbase? Please respect the rules and for once accept them, and don't always try to challenge/badmouth them.
Watch the race again. Rozmys moves into lane 1 from lane 2 on the turn and cuts Jakob off. It’s very clear on the video that Jakob puts a hand on Rozmys to let him know he’s there, but Rozmys just keeps moving in anyway and bumps him. This DQ is a joke as is anyone defending it.
Tyr not being a fanboy and see that Rozmys has been pushed from the outside by the athlete in green.
Just like he was mentally crushed in the 2017 European U20 Championships after being tripped in the 1500m?
When will you learn?
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Yeah jakob was COMPLETELY MENTALLY CRUSHED?!
Jakob went on to win the 5000m the same day and 3000m st next day in that Championship.
t4tttt43t wrote:
facepalm wrote:
Watch the race again. Rozmys moves into lane 1 from lane 2 on the turn and cuts Jakob off. It’s very clear on the video that Jakob puts a hand on Rozmys to let him know he’s there, but Rozmys just keeps moving in anyway and bumps him. This DQ is a joke as is anyone defending it.
Tyr not being a fanboy and see that Rozmys has been pushed from the outside by the athlete in green.
If Romzys was pushed from the outside, then pushed Jakob, then the DQ will be overturned.
Jakob clearly has a history of doing this kind of thing. I wonder if training with his brothers has got him used to the jostling to the point where it is somewhat habitual. Maybe Jakob can learn a lesson from this.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Timpani wrote:
Aside from 0.5 seconds being way too small...
If you are talking about super shoes ruining the purity of the sport, you can't also argue that breaking the rules should not be a DQ. We don't want a sport where there is allowed rule breaking. A DQ for one step isn't about justice for that infraction, it is about setting a standard of behavior- the extreme consequence should discourage breaking the rule at all. I think it does.
Agree - rules are there for a reason.
No one in tennis ever complains when the Hawkeye calls a ball that was just one inch out or in either "out or in", it just gets accepted. In T&F people just get mad/upset when their favorite athletes get DQ'ed and try to find 3423432 reasons of why the DQ should be overturned.
This is not about an inch, this is a FULL foot inside the track. And the way how it happened was all his own fault. Many, many athletes got DQ'ed during this championship for exactly the same reason. How would they feel if Jakob now suddenly decide to get special treatment just because he has the largest fanbase? Please respect the rules and for once accept them, and don't always try to challenge/badmouth them.
Even if it were just an inch, Jip Vastenburg got DQ'ed yesterday for just a toe on the inside of her lane
https://twitter.com/gabyandersengz/status/1367560601514475523?s=20Wouldnt be fair if jakob got away with a whole foot.
rojo wrote:
Remember, the Ingebrigtsens have a history of doing this crap.FIlip was DQd 2 years ago for th same thing and Jakob almost got DQd at worlds last year.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/jakob-ingebrigtsen-the-betting-favorite-and-19-yr-old-norwegian-5000-is-dqd-from-mens-5000-at-world-championships/
the Ingebrigtsens rap sheet is a mile long with this crap, here is just a small rundown just the last 2years
1) Filip gets DQ 2019 Euro indoors in the heats trying to pass on the inside when there was no room
https://www.eurosport.com/athletics/european-indoor-championships/2019/athletics-news-stupid-filip-ingebrigtsen-disqualified-from-european-1500m-heat_sto7166204/story.shtml2) Jakob gets disqualified for running inside the rails in the 5k heats at doha, later reinstated
3) Jakob trips Chelimo, Barega Ahmed multiple times in the finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpFE3ckB2AI&t=5s4) Filip punches Ethiopian Athlete and then trips him in 1500m heats at doha avoids DQ somehow
https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/news/a29363820/filip-ingebrigtsen-punches-teddese-lemi/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXp0dUpWENk5) Filip gets DQed semis 1500m
6) Jakob pushes Gourley off the line and again steps inside the rail today gets DQed
Hedjd wrote:
Jakob clearly has a history of doing this kind of thing. I wonder if training with his brothers has got him used to the jostling to the point where it is somewhat habitual. Maybe Jakob can learn a lesson from this.
If you ain’t jostling in the first lap of a 1,500 meters, then you’re soft as hell. It’s called being competitive.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
JBaller33 wrote:
Apparently he just said in an interview that if the DQ holds, he is leaving and will not race the 3,000.
So much about "not being crushed mentally". That's just the icing on the cake, even more unsportsmanlike behavior. Threatening European Athletics to not participate as best European runner in a very important event just because he - rightfully! - got DQ'ed is really at the bottom.
Why can't he just accept the decision and move on and show us what he can do in the 3000? Or is he afraid that he is so crushed mentally that he will lose?
That's the difference between Jakob and other great runners in the past. Geb would have laughed this off and crushed the 3k.
Lewandowski even very much shrugged off congratulations about his 1500m gold, arriving due to Ingebrigtsen's DQ. "No, no, I'm still waiting." That's a true competitor/champion, Jakob might be the fitter runner these days but this behavior is really annoying and bad for the sport.
You are the one pontificating endlessly on this topic. It was a dumb DQ, Jakob was clearly the fittest runner. You don't give a damn about the "good of the sport" it's just another banal catchphrase that you use to give your ridiculous takes a veneer of seriousness.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvvyyhUXMAQpQn9?format=jpg&name=mediumfacepalm wrote:
Watch the race again. Rozmys moves into lane 1 from lane 2 on the turn and cuts Jakob off. It’s very clear on the video that Jakob puts a hand on Rozmys to let him know he’s there, but Rozmys just keeps moving in anyway and bumps him. This DQ is a joke as is anyone defending it.
"putting a hand on him to let him know he is there"
Jakob tried to push him out of the way!
This video shows the whole thing. Clearly it was Jakob who started all with his strong push/shove.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1367950105869946886t4tttt43t wrote:
facepalm wrote:
Watch the race again. Rozmys moves into lane 1 from lane 2 on the turn and cuts Jakob off. It’s very clear on the video that Jakob puts a hand on Rozmys to let him know he’s there, but Rozmys just keeps moving in anyway and bumps him. This DQ is a joke as is anyone defending it.
Tyr not being a fanboy and see that Rozmys has been pushed from the outside by the athlete in green.
Rozmys is already impeding Jakob before Szogi passes him on the outside. Watch closely starting at 15 seconds.
https://youtu.be/laSkii4XggoCoevett wrote:
Absolute nonsense.
Home town decision to cheat Jakob out of gold and hand it to Lewandowski.
Doesn't matter at end of day, Jakob showed he could handle him in a Championship race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laSkii4Xggo
Got to agree with you.
I didn't see Jakob do anything to get disqualified.
Was it real early in the race?
JBaller33 wrote:
Hedjd wrote:
Jakob clearly has a history of doing this kind of thing. I wonder if training with his brothers has got him used to the jostling to the point where it is somewhat habitual. Maybe Jakob can learn a lesson from this.
If you ain’t jostling in the first lap of a 1,500 meters, then you’re soft as hell. It’s called being competitive.
That is your euphemism for what may or may not be permissible behavior in an athletic competition. Any kind of cheating, including PEDs, could be termed “being competitive.”
facepalm wrote:
t4tttt43t wrote:
Tyr not being a fanboy and see that Rozmys has been pushed from the outside by the athlete in green.
Rozmys is already impeding Jakob before Szogi passes him on the outside. Watch closely starting at 15 seconds.
https://youtu.be/laSkii4Xggo
Watch LRP's video before yours.
100% on Jakob.
About time this guy gets the DQ he's had coming for years.
Clearly didn't affect the result of the race, but the rules are the rules.
It would be nice if the rule allowed for some leeway when the infraction clearly didn't matter. In this case, Jakob probably lost a few milliseconds due to it and still dominated. Roz didn't seem affected. But then there would probably be too much room for interpretation for the judges.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvvyyhUXMAQpQn9?format=jpg&name=mediumfacepalm wrote:
Watch the race again. Rozmys moves into lane 1 from lane 2 on the turn and cuts Jakob off. It’s very clear on the video that Jakob puts a hand on Rozmys to let him know he’s there, but Rozmys just keeps moving in anyway and bumps him. This DQ is a joke as is anyone defending it.
"putting a hand on him to let him know he is there"
Jakob tried to push him out of the way!
This video shows the whole thing. Clearly it was Jakob who started all with his strong push/shove.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1367950105869946886
Even in the video you linked, you can see Ingebrigtsen loses balance before Rozmys. He gets cut off and then grabs Rozmys to avoid falling (which you can see in the picture). This sort of jostling happens all the time in 1500m races and should not be grounds for disqualification. The DQ in the women’s 3k was equally stupid.
Das Unkle wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Absolute nonsense.
Home town decision to cheat Jakob out of gold and hand it to Lewandowski.
Doesn't matter at end of day, Jakob showed he could handle him in a Championship race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laSkii4XggoGot to agree with you.
I didn't see Jakob do anything to get disqualified.
Was it real early in the race?
Watch LRP's video.
Hedjd wrote:
JBaller33 wrote:
If you ain’t jostling in the first lap of a 1,500 meters, then you’re soft as hell. It’s called being competitive.
That is your euphemism for what may or may not be permissible behavior in an athletic competition. Any kind of cheating, including PEDs, could be termed “being competitive.”
PEDs are a health issue. Pushing isn’t. This is sports. Unless you’re going Tanya Harding’s boyfriend on Nancy Kerrigan during a race, I think the race officials need to allow some leeway on jostling.
I like Jakob, but he does this sort of thing all the time. He's always pushing, running up on the rail, passing on the inside when there's no room.
DQ