extreme-bias wrote:
Deanouk wrote:
Well you need your eyes tested. At 400m Cheruiyot was in 3rd place, and they were in a line. How can he be 1 step (c.2m) behind the first placed pacer when there is another guy between them? He must have been at least 2 strides between the leader which means 3.5-4m. 0.4secs an absolute minimum.
I already admitted I was wrong with the split. Therefor it also was wrong to assume you did the "wrong" split more or less knowingly. Sorry for that.
Still, no interest from you just to clarify some point addressed to you.
Very dishonest acting at all from you.
Thank you for your apology. I respect that. The last post I made criticising your point that 'Tim was only one stride behind the pacer', was made BEFORE I had scrolled down to read all the subsequent comments and your recognition that you had made a mistake. Apologies for that.
I don't quite understand what you are getting at with, "Still, no interest from you just to clarify some point addressed to you". ??
I feel I have addressed all the points/criticisms you made against me in one of my posts last night! I made a list of 8 points, I think.
What in particular have you still got a problem with?
Yes, I am a big fan of Coe, and have clearly analysed his races in great detail (more than most others), but I deny that I am 'dishonest' , as you claim, and have never 'made up stats' to downplay another's performance or upgraded Coe's splits.
As an example, at the time of the Moscow Olympics, it was widely reported that Coe's last 200m in the 1500m final was 24.7. I have analysed it and it was more like 25.0, pretty much the same time as Ovett's last 200m in the 800m final.
T&FN also published Coe's last 200m in the Zurich 1500 from 84 as 25.09 secs, when it was more like 25.6. Those are quite significant discrepencies, and it would be easy for me to accept the faster times, but I don't.
However, by the same token, when it was stated that Aouita's last 100m in Nice 85 was 11.8 secs, I knew straight away that this was impossible, looked into it and realised they had taken his split for the last 90m. I'm not going to sit and stay quiet if I feel a big mistake is being made. Aouita's last 100m turned out to be 13.1, and was eventually listed as so in the IAAF's World Record Progression Book.
I remember I once wrote something like, 'Coe managed to run 1:43.38 at almost 33', to which you vehemently replied that I was being dishonest as he was only 32. Yes, he was 32, but he was a month shy of his 33rd birthday, which is why I added the 'almost'. That is semantics, not dishonesty.
So please enlighten me with all the dishonesty that you feel I have inflicted.
Oh, and I don't appreciate the comments from you suggesting I am like Covett! We have a mutual appreciation of a few runners, but in all other ways my conduct is not the same as his. I tend to avoid discussions that touch on political issues on an athletics thread.