Pretty sure Runners World ran an ad in the magazine in 2000 with the caption:
When does a jogger become a runner? On a day like this. With someone running through the mud. Even they allowed a distinction to be made.
Pretty sure Runners World ran an ad in the magazine in 2000 with the caption:
When does a jogger become a runner? On a day like this. With someone running through the mud. Even they allowed a distinction to be made.
I only care about someone's pace when some slower person lines up in front of me at a races. These people are joggers, otherwise, I don't care
I reckon it goes by your definition of a hobby jogger. I would point somebody as a hobby jogger if they either a) consider 2-3 miles a call for praise, or b) shuffle along at 10-11 minute pace
GarminGuy wrote:
I reckon it goes by your definition of a hobby jogger. I would point somebody as a hobby jogger if they either a) consider 2-3 miles a call for praise, or b) shuffle along at 10-11 minute pace
This guy is a hobby jogger then?
https://www.strava.com/activities/2989754441Morning shuffle for 2:09 guy.
Givetallugot wrote:
For more distinction, hobby joggers are the ones that make you laugh for the things they do. They are the ones running with water vests or drinking water at the one mile mark of a 5k.
Is there also a term for the ones that make you laugh for the things they write?
Such as splitting a metric distance into miles.
uh? wrote:
Givetallugot wrote:
For more distinction, hobby joggers are the ones that make you laugh for the things they do. They are the ones running with water vests or drinking water at the one mile mark of a 5k.
Is there also a term for the ones that make you laugh for the things they write?
Such as splitting a metric distance into miles.
Yes, it’s called being pedantic.
Givetallugot wrote:
I’m in the boat where I like to make the distinction between serious runners (hobby runner) vs a hobby jogger. The need for the distinction is to recognize the different classes of effort among runners. It isn’t about making fun of slower runners. A hobby jogger is someone who runs for fitness or runs straight mileage (15-30 mpw). They might enter a ton of local 5ks, but they never have any structure to their training and never make an effort to actually get faster. A serious runner (hobby runner) will have a more structured training approach. They will gradually build mileage, run various types of workouts, have a long run, and try to peak 2-3 times a year.
What exactly is the definition of “jogger” on this website? I always distinguished between a jogger and a runner based on pace. For example, I have always considered someone who runs over maybe 9 min/mile pace to be a jogger. On the other hand, someone who runs under 7min/mile pace is a runner in my mind, even if that person only runs 20 miles per week.
I don’t think pace matters as much as commitment to improving. People who want to improve will learn more about the sport, increase mileage, and become more structured with their training. Hobby joggers aren’t primarily concerned with improving. They want to participate and socialize and run mostly for fitness. Runners want to improve and compete.
Givetallugot wrote:
I don’t think pace matters as much as commitment to improving.
Username checks out.
When you go to the pants store, if your waist number is smaller than your inseam number, you are a runner.
John333 wrote:
Givetallugot wrote:
I’m in the boat where I like to make the distinction between serious runners (hobby runner) vs a hobby jogger. The need for the distinction is to recognize the different classes of effort among runners. It isn’t about making fun of slower runners. A hobby jogger is someone who runs for fitness or runs straight mileage (15-30 mpw). They might enter a ton of local 5ks, but they never have any structure to their training and never make an effort to actually get faster. A serious runner (hobby runner) will have a more structured training approach. They will gradually build mileage, run various types of workouts, have a long run, and try to peak 2-3 times a year.
What exactly is the definition of “jogger” on this website? I always distinguished between a jogger and a runner based on pace. For example, I have always considered someone who runs over maybe 9 min/mile pace to be a jogger. On the other hand, someone who runs under 7min/mile pace is a runner in my mind, even if that person only runs 20 miles per week.
Under 7 minute pace is running. Over 7 minute pace is jogging. Running at 7 minute pace is that sweet spot very few can achieve.
The litmus test wrote:
When you go to the pants store, if your waist number is smaller than your inseam number, you are a runner.
guys, we have a winner
John333 wrote:
What exactly is the definition of “jogger” on this website?
I think "jogger", although associated with a slow pace , is not about pace but about mentality and goals.
A jogger should not be insulted, but as RW says, be proud of doing something aligned with his/her own personal goals.
A runner should not be insulted by being called a jogger, but rather feel pity.
The one who thinks hobby jogger is an insult should do something to recognize and address their own feelings of inferiority.
Sure we can. As soon as you stop acting like completing marathons are a big accomplishment and that being fat is an unhealthy life choice. Give me those two.
LOL at kids who can't break 4:30 in the 1600 calling people hobby joggers.
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Runner10287 wrote:
People troll on the internet to pass time at boring jobs. Some times saying stuff they don't actually feel or believe for real. Just to get a rise out of people like you.
Maybe it's time for you to find a less boring job so that you will spend less time trolling on LRC.
I'm not complaining about it. Just stating how it is.
the truth1 wrote:
Pretty sure Runners World ran an ad in the magazine in 2000 with the caption:
When does a jogger become a runner? On a day like this. With someone running through the mud. Even they allowed a distinction to be made.
RW is just appealing to their targeted market segment. Right now, it's about dignifying them regardless of pace. Back 20 years ago, it was about pretending running was exclusively for the super tuff (and making you feel like YOU were super tuff, not some loser).
At the end of the day, it's just RW telling people what they want to hear.
Will Ferrell seemed to understand RW's reputation, even if RW didn't:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECcUpNWXUAE3g2d?format=jpg&name=large
the fact of the matter is that anything slower than tempo pace is yogging