Fats, ll, pop, conundrum and other anti trumpers: since the trumpers clearly don't care about admitted collusion with a hostile power, do you think there is ANY story that could cause Trump to lose say a third of his base? Are they completely inoculated against bad news now?
Remember that the trump family mocked the collusion investigation even as they knew about collusion. They lied right to their supporters but their supporters don't care .
Serious question. What would dislodge them?
You think Trump would let his son go to jail to stay in as president?
Fat hurts wrote:
exthrower wrote:Grow up losers....You lost....8 more years...Get used to it.....
That's what I'm most afraid of. I'm afraid that Americans will get used to this level of corruption and incompetence.
If we accept this as normal then our nation stands for nothing.
Indeed. If Trump & co. is "modern presidential" then the US is now officially a banana republic.
What is most striking to me is that so many are absolutely ecstatic about the demise of a once great nation.
Eric a blair wrote:
Fats, ll, pop, conundrum and other anti trumpers: since the trumpers clearly don't care about admitted collusion with a hostile power, do you think there is ANY story that could cause Trump to lose say a third of his base? Are they completely inoculated against bad news now?
Remember that the trump family mocked the collusion investigation even as they knew about collusion. They lied right to their supporters but their supporters don't care .
Serious question. What would dislodge them?
It would have to be a very extreme, clear-cut sort of thing. For example, him going on Fox News and burning a Bible or beating up veterans.
Anything short of that and I really don't think so.
L L wrote:
You think Trump would let his son go to jail to stay in as president?
I have seen no evidence that Trump would not literally sell his own daughter if it boost Trump's own interests.
Count Chocula wrote:
Eric a blair wrote:Fats, ll, pop, conundrum and other anti trumpers: since the trumpers clearly don't care about admitted collusion with a hostile power, do you think there is ANY story that could cause Trump to lose say a third of his base? Are they completely inoculated against bad news now?
Remember that the trump family mocked the collusion investigation even as they knew about collusion. They lied right to their supporters but their supporters don't care .
Serious question. What would dislodge them?
It would have to be a very extreme, clear-cut sort of thing. For example, him going on Fox News and burning a Bible or beating up veterans.
Anything short of that and I really don't think so.
That would not do it.
He would declare the Bible to be fake and veterans to be losers. And his minions would cheer!
Count Chocula wrote:
Eric a blair wrote:Fats, ll, pop, conundrum and other anti trumpers: since the trumpers clearly don't care about admitted collusion with a hostile power, do you think there is ANY story that could cause Trump to lose say a third of his base? Are they completely inoculated against bad news now?
Remember that the trump family mocked the collusion investigation even as they knew about collusion. They lied right to their supporters but their supporters don't care .
Serious question. What would dislodge them?
It would have to be a very extreme, clear-cut sort of thing. For example, him going on Fox News and burning a Bible or beating up veterans.
Anything short of that and I really don't think so.
being caught with a boy in bed would work. A girl, no.
maybe if he loses his temper and starts throwing things around in front of cameras. Conservatives like order.
Eric a blair wrote:
Fats, ll, pop, conundrum and other anti trumpers: since the trumpers clearly don't care about admitted collusion with a hostile power, do you think there is ANY story that could cause Trump to lose say a third of his base? Are they completely inoculated against bad news now?
Remember that the trump family mocked the collusion investigation even as they knew about collusion. They lied right to their supporters but their supporters don't care .
Serious question. What would dislodge them?
Maybe if Trump decreed that every American must allow a Mexican family to move in.
That might do it.
the big question of course is what will happen when some proof of DJT collusion and financial crimes come out.
Will people be like bad dude and use the 'everyone does it' defense? Or will they finally get a sense of right and wrong?
Someone said recently that republicans have become so obsessed with legal and not legal that they've forgotten about right and wrong.
I think that is perfect for their mindset right now. They have absolved themselves from deciding what is right and wrong.
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
eric a blair wrote:
the big question of course is what will happen when some proof of DJT collusion and financial crimes come out.
Will people be like bad dude and use the 'everyone does it' defense? Or will they finally get a sense of right and wrong?
Someone said recently that republicans have become so obsessed with legal and not legal that they've forgotten about right and wrong.
I think that is perfect for their mindset right now. They have absolved themselves from deciding what is right and wrong.
Interesting point.
I have a brother who literally equates "right" with "legal". Or perhaps even looser, with "what can be gotten away with".
Like the Trumpettes, he is fundamentally a loser. Like them, his life is consumed by the thought that others don't respect him. Hmmm...
exthrower wrote:
Grow up losers....You lost....8 more years...Get used to it.....
This has nothing to do with losing the election. This has to do with the actions of the man elected both before the election and since. You Trumpsters like to keep bringing up the election as if that means that since he was elected that that absolves him and his cronies of all bad behavior. It doesn't.
Trump continues to call this a "Witch Hunt". The problem for him is that we have now found a witch. More to be found also.
eric a blair wrote:
the big question of course is what will happen when some proof of DJT collusion and financial crimes come out.
That's going to take awhile. It will be up to Mueller to make the complicated case for financial crimes. And he's just getting started.
The big question to me is whether or no Republicans decide it is in their best interest to act now and start impeachment proceedings. There is probably enough material to go ahead if that's what they want to do.
If they don't impeach soon, they risk losing both houses in 2018. At that point, the Democrats take control of the impeachment process and possibly put a Democrat in the White House.
I've always said this was fun to think about, but if Pence is also impeached and convicted then they could install anyone as President. They could put Hillary in. They could even decide to let Obama finish out the last two years of Trump's term.
The Obama option would be politically mollifying because he would be ineligible to run for the office in 2020.
exthrower wrote:
Grow up losers....You lost....8 more years...Get used to it.....
Are we talking about tangibly, or emotionally? Emotionally you may have won by electing a man who wears makeup and makes you emotionally aroused. Tangibly, you (the forgotten man) are getting schlonged.
http://politicalwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/CNN-pre-existing-conditions-e1493925068521.pngGuess I must have missed the part on Don Jr.'s email chain where he asked "Do you know any good hackers?"
Democrats:
Russia
Impeach
Treason
Lather, rinse, repeat. Ad nauseum.
Stupid, silly libs. .
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Guess I must have missed the part on Don Jr.'s email chain where he asked "Do you know any good hackers?"
Democrats:
Russia
Impeach
Treason
Lather, rinse, repeat. Ad nauseum.
Stupid, silly libs. .
let's try this.
Do you think it is right or wrong for a presidential campaign to meet with a hostile power government to obtain damaging information about a former secretary of state, US senator and possible future president.
I'm not asking 'legal or illegal.' I'm asking 'right or wrong.'
And 'everyone does it' does not fit into right or wrong.
eric a blair wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:Guess I must have missed the part on Don Jr.'s email chain where he asked "Do you know any good hackers?"
Democrats:
Russia
Impeach
Treason
Lather, rinse, repeat. Ad nauseum.
Stupid, silly libs. .
let's try this.
Do you think it is right or wrong for a presidential campaign to meet with a hostile power government to obtain damaging information about a former secretary of state, US senator and possible future president.
I'm not asking 'legal or illegal.' I'm asking 'right or wrong.'
And 'everyone does it' does not fit into right or wrong.
He won, didn't he? So how is this even a question?
Trumpette wrote:
eric a blair wrote:let's try this.
Do you think it is right or wrong for a presidential campaign to meet with a hostile power government to obtain damaging information about a former secretary of state, US senator and possible future president.
I'm not asking 'legal or illegal.' I'm asking 'right or wrong.'
And 'everyone does it' does not fit into right or wrong.
He won, didn't he? So how is this even a question?
Also, Hillary does not have attractive ankles. So there is that.
another battlefield of the investigation - did the trump campaign direct Russian internet trolls to attack purple areas that could turn red? This one has Kush as its target. This one would hurt since only around 70,000 people in a few counties turned the entire election. Easy to see how a focused trolling attack could get 70,000 votes.
Note that these are Republicans investigating, not LEO or Democrats.
Would that count as wrong, trumpers?
WASHINGTON
Investigators at the House and Senate Intelligence committees and the Justice Department are examining whether the Trump campaign’s digital operation – overseen by Jared Kushner – helped guide Russia’s sophisticated voter targeting and fake news attacks on Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Congressional and Justice Department investigators are focusing on whether Trump’s campaign pointed Russian cyber operatives to certain voting jurisdictions in key states – areas where Trump’s digital team and Republican operatives were spotting unexpected weakness in voter support for Hillary Clinton, according to several people familiar with the parallel inquiries.
Also under scrutiny is the question of whether Trump associates or campaign aides had any role in assisting the Russians in publicly releasing thousands of emails, hacked from the accounts of top Democrats, at turning points in the presidential race, mainly through the London-based transparency web site WikiLeaks.
Rep. Adam Schiff of California, ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told McClatchy he wants to know whether Russia’s “fake or damaging news stories†were “coordinated in any way in terms of targeting or in terms of timing or in terms of any other measure … with the (Trump) campaign.â€
Read more here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article160803619.html#storylink=cpy
Fat hurts wrote:
The big question to me is whether or no Republicans decide it is in their best interest to act now and start impeachment proceedings. There is probably enough material to go ahead if that's what they want to do.
Naaah. The party is in good shape. The midterms could shift the balance, but not by much. The Republicans would need to see support fall off a cliff and never come back before considering it. It's another unlikely scenario.
That assumes the Democrats get their act together. Which is a HUGE assumption at this point.
Essentially, what it takes is a big enough majority in both houses, more than some kind of high crime to get an impeachment approved in both Congress and the House.
And it's quite possibly true Donny Sr. knew nothing. He's a very useful idiot. The people around the clown are probably going to get some heat, but, the Republicans will do everything to soften the blow.
