Thanks for that haha. Little Donnie was forced to release the emails because NYT was about to. I can't believe these Trumps are really that fvcking stupid.
Conundrum wrote:
Stephen Colbert's take on this is pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3EY8aLutbg
Rufus Washington wrote:
Also someone please explain to me why everyone is taking for granted nothing came out of this meeting? Lil Donnie, Big Donnie and the rest of this regime are proven LIARS so I don't believe for a second that the meeting yielded no info.
I thought the same thing.
Lil Donnie's explanation of this meeting being in his words "nonsensical" is very evasive and really doesn't pass the smell test. This big meeting with this Russian lawyer set up with three people very close to Trump and all he says at about what was discussed was that it was nonsensical?And the purpose of the meeting to reveal dirt obtained by the Russian was all made up. And this lawyer lied about being a government lawyer. Are Russians known to pretend to work for the government when they don't. None of this is true. We won't ever know what really was discussed.
Rufus Washington wrote:
Also someone please explain to me why everyone is taking for granted nothing came out of this meeting? Lil Donnie, Big Donnie and the rest of this regime are proven LIARS so I don't believe for a second that the meeting yielded no info.
kekistani wrote:
I love this I really do. It's like they literally jump on the smallest scrap, act like it's gold, then scream at the top of their lungs "we got him - we got him THIS TIME!!!" this tactic has failed, what, like every. single. time?
I'm really beginning to think liberals are f*ckin retarded. the party is destroyed.
I know.
It's like Al Capone or any other mafia criminal where you know they are guilty of crimes but can't make anything stick.
itsbaddude wrote:
Nothing burger. My expectations is that most politicians, including the ones on the MSN, are corrupt and will go to any extreme to damage the other side. This has been blown out of proportions. Far worse has been committed by the left and we are not even talking about it.
All billionaires are ruthless, go read up on Bill Gates, Mark Zucker, etc. I don't see what this has to do with his presidency.
You don't see what it has to do with the presidency. So let me lay it out for you.
Who else knew about these illegal activities? Obviously, Putin and the Russian government knew.
So until now, Putin could hold this over the president. President Trump is beholden to Putin lest he put Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and possibly the president himself in legal jeopardy. It's quite possible that the decidedly pro-Russia policies pursued by our president were the result of blackmail.
The question now is, "What else does Putin have on Trump?" How beholden is Donald Trump to Putin?
It has everything to do with the presidency. It has everything to do with whether or not our president is working for the American people or working to keep himself and his family out of prison.
When Mitt Romney was given illegally obtained information to help his campaign, he went to the fbi.The quick dismal that everybody does it and all billionaire are ruthless doesn't cut it either. Not everyone is having secret meetings with Russians to obtain illegal information.And fat hurts is right. This is right out of the Putin playbook on how to manipulate others. Putin is the puppet master. Do we want him to have information that would get our president's family in legal trouble if released??I guess if you really trust Putin this is not a problem.
Fat hurts wrote:
itsbaddude wrote:Nothing burger. My expectations is that most politicians, including the ones on the MSN, are corrupt and will go to any extreme to damage the other side. This has been blown out of proportions. Far worse has been committed by the left and we are not even talking about it.
All billionaires are ruthless, go read up on Bill Gates, Mark Zucker, etc. I don't see what this has to do with his presidency.
You don't see what it has to do with the presidency. So let me lay it out for you.
Who else knew about these illegal activities? Obviously, Putin and the Russian government knew.
So until now, Putin could hold this over the president. President Trump is beholden to Putin lest he put Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and possibly the president himself in legal jeopardy. It's quite possible that the decidedly pro-Russia policies pursued by our president were the result of blackmail.
The question now is, "What else does Putin have on Trump?" How beholden is Donald Trump to Putin?
It has everything to do with the presidency. It has everything to do with whether or not our president is working for the American people or working to keep himself and his family out of prison.
Fat hurts wrote:
itsbaddude wrote:Nothing burger. My expectations is that most politicians, including the ones on the MSN, are corrupt and will go to any extreme to damage the other side. This has been blown out of proportions. Far worse has been committed by the left and we are not even talking about it.
All billionaires are ruthless, go read up on Bill Gates, Mark Zucker, etc. I don't see what this has to do with his presidency.
You don't see what it has to do with the presidency. So let me lay it out for you.
Who else knew about these illegal activities? Obviously, Putin and the Russian government knew.
So until now, Putin could hold this over the president. President Trump is beholden to Putin lest he put Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and possibly the president himself in legal jeopardy. It's quite possible that the decidedly pro-Russia policies pursued by our president were the result of blackmail.
The question now is, "What else does Putin have on Trump?" How beholden is Donald Trump to Putin?
It has everything to do with the presidency. It has everything to do with whether or not our president is working for the American people or working to keep himself and his family out of prison.
I think the question was about what Trump's previous business dealings with banks, students, etc. has to do with his presidency. Not, "what does this story have to do with the presidency"
Conundrum wrote:
When Mitt Romney was given illegally obtained information to help his campaign, he went to the fbi.
The quick dismal that everybody does it and all billionaire are ruthless doesn't cut it either. Not everyone is having secret meetings with Russians to obtain illegal information.
And fat hurts is right. This is right out of the Putin playbook on how to manipulate others. Putin is the puppet master. Do we want him to have information that would get our president's family in legal trouble if released??
I guess if you really trust Putin this is not a problem.
Fat hurts wrote:You don't see what it has to do with the presidency. So let me lay it out for you.
Who else knew about these illegal activities? Obviously, Putin and the Russian government knew.
So until now, Putin could hold this over the president. President Trump is beholden to Putin lest he put Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and possibly the president himself in legal jeopardy. It's quite possible that the decidedly pro-Russia policies pursued by our president were the result of blackmail.
The question now is, "What else does Putin have on Trump?" How beholden is Donald Trump to Putin?
It has everything to do with the presidency. It has everything to do with whether or not our president is working for the American people or working to keep himself and his family out of prison.
Do you minions think we have nothing on Putin? Why are we acting like the US isn't spying and hacking every country? Grow up.
HRC lost because the non-coastal states could care less about an old white woman becoming the first president of the US. Identity alone isn't a good political strategy.
This "Russia!" narrative is blowing up in the the MSM's face.
12 months have passed now. Tick, tick, tick.
Get learned wrote:
HRC lost because the non-coastal states could care less about an old white woman becoming the first president of the US.
How much less could they care?
Get learned wrote:
Do you minions think we have nothing on Putin? Why are we acting like the US isn't spying and hacking every country? Grow up.
Does Trump have something that could land Putin or his family in a Russian prison?
I doubt it. In Russia, Putin is judge, jury, and executioner.
Does Putin have something that could land Trump or his family in an American prison?
It's looking more and more probable every day.
Conundrum wrote:
Rufus Washington wrote:Also someone please explain to me why everyone is taking for granted nothing came out of this meeting? Lil Donnie, Big Donnie and the rest of this regime are proven LIARS so I don't believe for a second that the meeting yielded no info.
I thought the same thing.
no doubt Mueller or someone might offer some immunity to junior, manafort or Kush if they can reveal what happened in that meeting if it implicated POTUS.
This isn't about why Hillary lost.
This is about unethical and potential illegal behavior of the current president and his campaign.
It's also about foreign influence on present US policy.
It's also about the possibility of the current president's conflict of interest of personal financial gain through abuse of power.
Its also about deception and possible cover ups. How could the president applaud his son's transparency if he divulged information only after it was found by the press and a year after the fact.?
I haven't taken the collusion angle in this thread.
I have noted that the Russia noise needs to be looked into.
Now this is evidence of collusion with a foreign power to influence the election.
It is a new development as far as public disclosure.
If Don Jr set up a meeting with a Russian connection for the purpose of finding dirt on Hillary Clinton in the middle of the campaign, that is pretty strong evidence that the campaign was willing to work with Russia to beat Hillary.
It means you have to keep looking.
In the meantime, the president actually suggested working with Russia on cyber security. What?
eric a blair wrote:
no doubt Mueller or someone might offer some immunity to junior, manafort or Kush if they can reveal what happened in that meeting if it implicated POTUS.
I am wondering if Jr gets pushed to the brink if Trump Sr may offer to step down to save his son.
eric a blair wrote:
eric a blair wrote:I wish the thumpers would just step back for a second and realize that they gave trump the benefit of the doubt, and trump took advantage of that. Like he always does.
You have been lied to, his campaign has collaborated with a hostile country, there have been numerous ethical lapses, he has alienated allies and befriended tyrants...
You people are like the banks that trusted trump and then he went bankrupt to avoid paying you back. You are like the contractors who trusted trump but never got paid for their work, You are like the students who trusted trump but were just getting ripped off.
trumpers are...like the two women he promised to be loyal to and then divorced.
trumpers are like the teen beauty contestants who trusted that Trump wouldn't walk in on them as they changed.
itsbaddude wrote:
Nothing burger. My expectations is that most politicians, including the ones on the MSN, are corrupt and will go to any extreme to damage the other side. This has been blown out of proportions. Far worse has been committed by the left and we are not even talking about it.
All billionaires are ruthless, go read up on Bill Gates, Mark Zucker, etc. I don't see what this has to do with his presidency.
1) Name one thing that the left has done that is worse than colluding with a hostile power to sway an election.
2) Regarding the ruthlessness of billionaires, first of all, I reject that Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg (it's Zuckerberg, not "Zucker") have evidence of being ruthless that anywhere close matches what Trump and his slimy cohorts have done. Secondly, I wouldn't necessarily say that ruthless is what describes Trump the best...he is mostly just an ass with no morals. Finally, it wouldn't matter if Gates and Zuckerberg were the worst people on the planet. Neither of them are the President of the United States. Stop rationalizing horrible behavior by this President and his cohorts. We can't have a President who doesn't abide by the rules.
ah, the 'everyone does it' defense. Nothing so ridiculous as a 'conservative' using the ideas of the hard left. Of moral equivalence, corporate guilt, universal shame, But more to your point, no. there are numerous examples of politicians going straight to the FBI when approached by unscrupulous people. And I've been in business for decades, dealing with very wealthy people. Business is nothing like what you say. Your ignorance reminds me of that great quote - Trump is what someone who knows nothing about business thinks is a businessman. Trump is what a weak man thinks is a strong man. etc. you must live in some small town in say Tennessee, unfamiliar with how the world works, thinking that the big men in the big city are all corrupt.
itsbaddude wrote:
Nothing burger. My expectations is that most politicians, including the ones on the MSN, are corrupt and will go to any extreme to damage the other side. This has been blown out of proportions. Far worse has been committed by the left and we are not even talking about it.
All billionaires are ruthless, go read up on Bill Gates, Mark Zucker, etc. I don't see what this has to do with his presidency.
eric a blair wrote:I wish the thumpers would just step back for a second and realize that they gave trump the benefit of the doubt, and trump took advantage of that. Like he always does.
You have been lied to, his campaign has collaborated with a hostile country, there have been numerous ethical lapses, he has alienated allies and befriended tyrants...
You people are like the banks that trusted trump and then he went bankrupt to avoid paying you back. You are like the contractors who trusted trump but never got paid for their work, You are like the students who trusted trump but were just getting ripped off.
1101 wrote:
Clintonettes are NOT Americans! They are blind sheep!
1100 wrote:Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Ummm . . . 2017 just called. Says you are welcome to join him whenever you are ready.
Get learned wrote:
Do you minions think we have nothing on Putin? Why are we acting like the US isn't spying and hacking every country? Grow up.
HRC lost because the non-coastal states could care less about an old white woman becoming the first president of the US. Identity alone isn't a good political strategy.
This "Russia!" narrative is blowing up in the the MSM's face.
12 months have passed now. Tick, tick, tick.
Are you really that stupid? Seriously?
So, you think we have "something on Putin"? Some information that the Russian media could use to take him down? Oops, Russian media is controlled by Putin. Something that could be used in a Russian court to take Putin down? Oops, Russian courts are controlled by Putin. . . .
Serious question - could you possibly be as stupid as you make yourself out to be?
L L wrote:
eric a blair wrote:no doubt Mueller or someone might offer some immunity to junior, manafort or Kush if they can reveal what happened in that meeting if it implicated POTUS.
I am wondering if Jr gets pushed to the brink if Trump Sr may offer to step down to save his son.
Here is the complete list of things, people and principles that Trump Sr cares about:
Donald Trump Sr.
exthrower wrote:
Grow up losers....You lost....8 more years...Get used to it.....
That's what I'm most afraid of. I'm afraid that Americans will get used to this level of corruption and incompetence.
If we accept this as normal then our nation stands for nothing.