Roe v Wade just got overturned official thread

People are naïve and ignorant if they never thought roe would get overturned. When one of the leading figures, and also a Supreme Court justice, states that it’s likely to happen, you should probably listen to her.

As mentioned earlier, I’ve heard about states banning abortion but every example I’ve heard, I’ve been able to find exceptions in their law. So it seems you’re exaggerating a bit.

Leading figures in women’s rights*

Your hifalutin condescension notwithstanding, this anecdote is ridiculously irrelevant to the Roe-or-not debate. She had a stillbirth at 36 weeks! Practically no women think abortion should be legal couple weeks before the due date. The state may have unfairly suspected a poor black woman for killing her unborn child in this case, but that could well happen with or without Roe.

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"Pro-lifers" whining "we just want acceptable restrictions on abortion" as they vote for and support hardline conservatives who will ban all abortions.

Hint: striking back at progressives by harming women and removing rights is not 'good' or 'moral' or 'just.' God judges you just as he judges all who go too far in their misplaced vengance.

Standard dismissal of the fact that abortion laws you support (directly or indirectly -- 'better than what progressives want') are directly harming poor and disenfranchised innocent women.

You may not wish this was the case, but this is what the pro-lifers have wrought. Now you need to own it (the next step in your moral maturation).

Sorry, your logic makes no sense to me. I doubt you can articulate what abortion laws I support.

I’m comfortable with Roe being overturned. This woman’s case is irrelevant to whether or not Roe stood. Are you seriously disputing that this case is irrelevant to Roe?

Pregnant women’s lives matter.

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The Roe overturning has emboldened hardline anti-abortion types (most of whom are unwitting/witting pawns). There will be more of these horrifying attacks on women, many of them experiencing painful tragedy. This is what ending Roe will do.

You think this is OK because, hey, some progressives supported abortion laws I didn't like. Well, you sure showed them. Who really cares about poor women in Mississippi?

In your eyes, losing a baby is just a natural happening in a woman's life, so throwing her in jail for it is, on the margin, not really that bad! How nice

What matters is that voters are scared that Republicans will pass NO exceptions to abortion if they are elected.

They saw the stories of clinics shutting down the moment Roe was overturned.
Women were in the waiting room and told to leave.

You get only two votes. The most crippling cognitive bias in politics is overestimating your own vote's significance vs tens of millions.

With both major parties pushing insistent and contrary ideologies, but neither based on a sound analysis of privacy rights and good governance, voters will quickly get sick of the abortion issue and return their attention to their burning money.

In practical terms, most Dem voters are middle class or wealthier, and able to evade an abortion ban by crossing state lines. It doesn't affect them personally, rather it's a partisan, "savior" issue where they are heroically helping the poor or the ID's. And they always prefer helping the ID's rather than straight up helping the poor.

Gary, the lowest of low. Only carmine9 can compete.

There are millions of low income Democrats that can’t afford to cross state lines to get an abortion or take their lady across state lines.

Much easier for them to show up and vote.

These accusations are all intellectually dishonest and vacuous. You have no idea of my views and are attributing your prejudices against people who are different from you to me, so I won’t engage on that front further.

What you have admitted is that you will use any pretext to construct the argument you like: overturning Roe is bad because something that could happen with or without Roe happened. Your intellectual inconsistency has been laid bare.

Im libertarian...

Going hyperbolic, but everyone should have been aborted if we want to achieve full carbon neutrality

Harambe has just become gorilla-brained is what I can surmise. Attributing this nonsensical belief to anyone makes no sense, not to mention I remotely didn’t imply anything like that. When people lose an intellectual argument and get so angry that their brain stops functioning, it’s kinda funny to watch the train wreck.

Gary no one’s fvcking you anyways so you can get out of this thread.

I can only surmise that the pro lifers in this thread are sexually repressed men.