And….. if it does not involve a minor why is is secret?
And….. if it does not involve a minor why is is secret?
original liar soorer wrote:
And….. if it does not involve a minor why is is secret?
You don't know that it doesn't. SafeSport deals with complaints involving minors so it most likely does.
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Because it is a sports complaints body and not a court. It isn't "secret" to those involved. Your misplaced comments only reinforce the fatuity of inviting wider public engagement.
You obviously have not read the link.
Nor have you answered what due process have Safe Sport followed.
I am not interested in your endlessly ignorant questions. I am not SafeSport. Why don't you get off your fat lazy a*rse and do your own research on SafeSport, including reading its website - which you clearly haven't done - instead of spouting your fatuous uninformed opinions?
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
You obviously have not read the link.
Nor have you answered what due process have Safe Sport followed.
I am not interested in your endlessly ignorant questions. I am not SafeSport. Why don't you get off your fat lazy a*rse and do your own research on SafeSport, including reading its website - which you clearly haven't done - instead of spouting your fatuous uninformed opinions?
More insults.
I have read their website and the statute that set it up.
I have done research of due process and safe sport and provided the link for your education.You seem not to have bothered with it.
Your reaction is that of a bigot.
Your bigoted views characterise your posting.
Posting that often contain insults that are racist.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
And….. if it does not involve a minor why is is secret?
You don't know that it doesn't. SafeSport deals with complaints involving minors so it most likely does.
Also deals with complaints involving adults; so why the secrets?
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You don't know that it doesn't. SafeSport deals with complaints involving minors so it most likely does.
Also deals with complaints involving adults; so why the secrets?
Why don't you write to SafeSport and demand to know the details of the complaints against Salazar - or ask Salazar to tell you himself - instead of your endless whining here that you don't know what any of it is about? I am sure those involved would want you to know the painful details of this part of their personal lives, so that you can uphold your beliefs about "due process".
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I am not interested in your endlessly ignorant questions. I am not SafeSport. Why don't you get off your fat lazy a*rse and do your own research on SafeSport, including reading its website - which you clearly haven't done - instead of spouting your fatuous uninformed opinions?
More insults.
I have read their website and the statute that set it up.
I have done research of due process and safe sport and provided the link for your education.You seem not to have bothered with it.
Your reaction is that of a bigot.
Your bigoted views characterise your posting.
Posting that often contain insults that are racist.
All your posts are an insult. An insult to intelligence.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
More insults.
I have read their website and the statute that set it up.
I have done research of due process and safe sport and provided the link for your education.You seem not to have bothered with it.
Your reaction is that of a bigot.
Your bigoted views characterise your posting.
Posting that often contain insults that are racist.
All your posts are an insult. An insult to intelligence.
But not racists like yours.
And have you bothered to read the link about Safe Sport.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
Also deals with complaints involving adults; so why the secrets?
Why don't you write to SafeSport and demand to know the details of the complaints against Salazar - or ask Salazar to tell you himself - instead of your endless whining here that you don't know what any of it is about? I am sure those involved would want you to know the painful details of this part of their personal lives, so that you can uphold your beliefs about "due process".
You have no real interest in the width of discussion that follows a tread esp when your bigoted comments are exposed and then you go into insulting mode.
A central point to this thread and Letsrun editorial is that there are many who would like to know the actual offence.
We know the offence but not the details. You aren't entitled to those. It isn't a court. Sports bodies make decisions all the time that you aren't informed of or are not privy to the details. Your ignorance of that doesn't make those decisions erroneous or unjust. But your ignorance would persist even if you did know the details.
Yes, we know that the name of a gardening tool is racist to the mind of one who is unfamiliar with the English language.
Armstronglivs wrote:
We know the offence but not the details. You aren't entitled to those. It isn't a court. Sports bodies make decisions all the time that you aren't informed of or are not privy to the details. Your ignorance of that doesn't make those decisions erroneous or unjust. But your ignorance would persist even if you did know the details.
We don’t know the offence except in the very broadest terms and these terms may be utterly misleading.
This is a very complicated matter; that of due process in what is a very serious offence and consequences.
The refs I have provided and further reading available point out that whilst not a court there should be more of what we would understand as due process.
We simply have no idea if the decisions are erroneous or unjust.
WADA world is not a court but the panels that make the decisions do get very very close to due process.
Against this very serious background you contribute nothing except bigoted insults.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Yes, we know that the name of a gardening tool is racist to the mind of one who is unfamiliar with the English language.
When used along side monkey taunts and banana type taunts and mocking BLM the term is unambiguously racist.
You yourself provided evidence of this being viewed as racism … not me!
Try going into a good few city communities and calling people the digging tool word and see if I am right.
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Yes, we know that the name of a gardening tool is racist to the mind of one who is unfamiliar with the English language.
When used along side monkey taunts and banana type taunts and mocking BLM the term is unambiguously racist.
You yourself provided evidence of this being viewed as racism … not me!
Try going into a good few city communities and calling people the digging tool word and see if I am right.
Because you are unbelievably stupid you cannot realise that I do not refer to anyone by that term. I use it in its traditional sense of a gardening tool. Even rekrunner has abandoned you on this. Really, you should just **** off.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
When used along side monkey taunts and banana type taunts and mocking BLM the term is unambiguously racist.
You yourself provided evidence of this being viewed as racism … not me!
Try going into a good few city communities and calling people the digging tool word and see if I am right.
Because you are unbelievably stupid you cannot realise that I do not refer to anyone by that term. I use it in its traditional sense of a gardening tool. Even rekrunner has abandoned you on this. Really, you should just **** off.
Do you accept your own source that the phrase; not the word; should no longer be used ?
Your own source !!
Telling me to F off does not help your bigoted self.
Any apology for the monkey taunts and monkey 🙈 food taunts? 🙈 🙊 🙊
Go on, even letsrun’s king bigot can climb down from Bigot Mountain.
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Because you are unbelievably stupid you cannot realise that I do not refer to anyone by that term. I use it in its traditional sense of a gardening tool. Even rekrunner has abandoned you on this. Really, you should just **** off.
Do you accept your own source that the phrase; not the word; should no longer be used ?
Your own source !!
Telling me to F off does not help your bigoted self.
Any apology for the monkey taunts and monkey 🙈 food taunts? 🙈 🙊 🙊
Go on, even letsrun’s king bigot can climb down from Bigot Mountain.
Jesus Chr*st, the dictionary source I used only said that the word should not be used as a racial slur, but did not say it should not be used in its customary reference as a garden tool. Seriously, you are the thickest f******* poster who has ever come to these boards.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
Do you accept your own source that the phrase; not the word; should no longer be used ?
Your own source !!
Telling me to F off does not help your bigoted self.
Any apology for the monkey taunts and monkey 🙈 food taunts? 🙈 🙊 🙊
Go on, even letsrun’s king bigot can climb down from Bigot Mountain.
Jesus Chr*st, the dictionary source I used only said that the word should not be used as a racial slur, but did not say it should not be used in its customary reference as a garden tool. Seriously, you are the thickest f******* poster who has ever come to these boards.
You avoid again. It is the phrase that you used and it’s context. The dictionary source you recently quoted made no ref to the phrase; why do you lie?
The original source you depended upon said that the phrase should no be used; your source!
Inferences should be drawn from your utter silence on the monkey taunts.So taking the repetitious use of these words and phrases after you have been told they cause offence should be viewed as a hate crime.
So mockery of BLM comparing with Wasp, use of offending words and phrases including bananaest taunts leads one to a singular conclusion; does it not?
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Jesus Chr*st, the dictionary source I used only said that the word should not be used as a racial slur, but did not say it should not be used in its customary reference as a garden tool. Seriously, you are the thickest f******* poster who has ever come to these boards.
You avoid again. It is the phrase that you used and it’s context. The dictionary source you recently quoted made no ref to the phrase; why do you lie?
The original source you depended upon said that the phrase should no be used; your source!
Inferences should be drawn from your utter silence on the monkey taunts.So taking the repetitious use of these words and phrases after you have been told they cause offence should be viewed as a hate crime.
So mockery of BLM comparing with Wasp, use of offending words and phrases including bananaest taunts leads one to a singular conclusion; does it not?
The only thing I hate is stupidity. Like yours. I'll try again - even though this will never penetrate your concrete cranium.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/to-call-a-spade-a-spade#:~:text=phrase,even%20embarrassing%20or%20unpleasant%20things.
- to call a spade a spade
PHRASE
- If you say that someone calls a spade a spade, you mean that they speak clearly and directly about things, even embarrassing or unpleasant things.
[approval]
- I'm not at all secretive, and I'm pretty good at calling a spade a spade.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
You avoid again. It is the phrase that you used and it’s context. The dictionary source you recently quoted made no ref to the phrase; why do you lie?
The original source you depended upon said that the phrase should no be used; your source!
Inferences should be drawn from your utter silence on the monkey taunts.So taking the repetitious use of these words and phrases after you have been told they cause offence should be viewed as a hate crime.
So mockery of BLM comparing with Wasp, use of offending words and phrases including bananaest taunts leads one to a singular conclusion; does it not?
The only thing I hate is stupidity. Like yours. I'll try again - even though this will never penetrate your concrete cranium.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/to-call-a-spade-a-spade#:~:text=phrase,even%20embarrassing%20or%20unpleasant%20things.
- to call a spade a spade
PHRASE
- If you say that someone calls a spade a spade, you mean that they speak clearly and directly about things, even embarrassing or unpleasant things.
[approval]
- I'm not at all secretive, and I'm pretty good at calling a spade a spade.
And you have said that the phrase should no longer be used due to racial connotations.
And then add to your own mix of monkey taunts and disparaging remarks about BLM in comparison with WASP leads to only one conclusion.
Quak … walk …. 🦆 and you can’t keep that a secret can you?
I'll assume the same troll under two names debating with himself on this one.