Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

To further highlight the ridiculousness of this presidency, ASAP Rocky is mentioned as having been discussed w/ trump. wow

agip wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

What helps Dems bigly here is that Sondland had a direct line to Trump - clearly saying it was all at his direction. Hard to say this is not damaging. Agent Orange not attacking him yet, curious...

Sondland knew 100% that trumpers would go after him, calling him a rogue operator and trying to throw him under the bus.

So Sondland instead, from the start, pulled in viritually the entire Trump admin, including Trump and Pence.

Funny to see FOX and trump on freeze right now trying to figure out an angle to use with Sondland. He is coming off as very genuine.

No way the Republicans ask Sondland about any of this when it's their turn. He is directly implicating Trump's guilt on everything. No hearsay. Not a never-Trumper.

They have to change the subject and talk about something else or grand stand.

Fat boy/pence/pompous all travelling today. Knew it was coming & departed DC!

Sondland confirms Trump told him when asked what he wanted that Trump told him he wants nothing, no quid pro quo, just wants Zelensky to do the right thing.

This is a disaster for Pencil Neck ?

Clown show.

KAG2020

Da Truf wrote:

Wow, catching the live FOX feed, as soon as Sondland was done and Schiff started to question him FOX cut out the feed to interview Gaetz!

"I think the big question we have to ask now is... WHO is the whistleblower???"

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Sondland confirms Trump told him when asked what he wanted that Trump told him he wants nothing, no quid pro quo, just wants Zelensky to do the right thing.

This is a disaster for Pencil Neck ?

Clown show.

KAG2020

You are indeed affected. Sondland is slamming Trump and Giuliani and the State Department. Sondland has confirmed the meeting and the aid was contingent upon an announcement of the two investigations. You are a dumb@ss.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Sondland confirms Trump told him when asked what he wanted that Trump told him he wants nothing, no quid pro quo, just wants Zelensky to do the right thing.

You are absolutely immune to reason. This is a direct quote from Sondland.

"Was there a ‘quid pro quo?’ with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

X-Runner wrote:

In the end, the Republican defense will be the same as the Democrats when Bill Clinton was impeached.

Yes, Bill Clinton lied under oath and tried to cover up his affair with an intern.

Charged with perjury and obstruction of justice, the feeling was that lying about this particular thing was not big enough to justify removing a president from office.

The Republicans will come to the consensus that although Trump did bribe Ukraine, it isn't bad enough of an offense to warrant removing him from office.

There is a precedent of acquitting a president who obviously was guilty of the actions he was charged with.

Of course bribing a foreign president is worse than lying about an affair, but that doesn't matter.

Except for the fact that Trump bribery fee for Ukraine failing to do as he demanded is $35 million. Trump keeps trying to give the bribe money back to claim there was no bribery. Yeah, sure. September 30th was the drop dead date.

More than $35 million of the roughly $400 million in aid to Ukraine that President Trump delayed, sparking the impeachment inquiry, has not been released to the country, according to a Pentagon spending document obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

... It’s not clear why the money hasn’t been released, and members of Congress are demanding answers.

... Because of a congressionally mandated 15-day waiting period, the administration’s delay left lawmakers less than a week to secure the money before the legal authority to spend it expired at the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30.

Sondland testified that Trump wanted “nothing” from Ukraine.

This charade is beyond parody.

Clown show.

to be fair to rigged, Sondland is saying that he never heard directly from trump in Trump's words that there was a trade: dirt for arms/WH meeting.

I think he's saying that anyway.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Sondland confirms Trump told him when asked what he wanted that Trump told him he wants nothing, no quid pro quo, just wants Zelensky to do the right thing.

You are absolutely immune to reason. This is a direct quote from Sondland.

"Was there a ‘quid pro quo?’ with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

CORRECT! There is no dispute on this.

1) Sondland is not a Never Trumper.

2) Trump does indeed know who Sondland is.

3) Sondland has confirmed that there was a quid pro quo...must announce investigations into the Bidens and 2016 election in order to get White House meeting and military aid.

4) Sondland has a direct line to Trump.

5) Sondland has confirmed that "everyone" knew about this scheme, so that's a conspiracy.

6) Sondland has SOMEWHAT implicated Pence.

Conspiracy, Bribery. Cut and dried. The only question is whether Republicans will look the other way.

jesseriley wrote:

Fat boy/pence/pompous all travelling today. Knew it was coming & departed DC!

All flying to Russia where they have job offers.

If this was a movie, the defense would end the trial right now and make a plea deal.

In this case, the plea would be Trump resigns and there will be no formal impeachment or removal.

X-Runner wrote:

If this was a movie, the defense would end the trial right now and make a plea deal.

In this case, the plea would be Trump resigns and there will be no formal impeachment or removal.

but sondland is saying clearly and repeatedly that he never received a quid pro quo order from trump.

So in a movie, all of the Capo's henchmen would go to jail but not the Capo.

Unless the feds get the Capo with RICO...which was made for this sort of thing - when the Capo never quite says 'go do the crime!'

agip wrote:

to be fair to rigged, Sondland is saying that he never heard directly from trump in Trump's words that there was a trade: dirt for arms/WH meeting.

I think he's saying that anyway.

Sondland has made it clear that all went through Giuliani. He verified that Zelensky needed to make a public announcement about the investigations in order to get a White House meeting and military aid released.

"Directed by the President". Sondland said that several times. He also said it was no secret...everyone knew it.

Mike Pompeo is spending a lot of time in the bathroom today.

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

to be fair to rigged, Sondland is saying that he never heard directly from trump in Trump's words that there was a trade: dirt for arms/WH meeting.

I think he's saying that anyway.

Sondland has made it clear that all went through Giuliani. He verified that Zelensky needed to make a public announcement about the investigations in order to get a White House meeting and military aid released.

"Directed by the President". Sondland said that several times. He also said it was no secret...everyone knew it.

sure, but fact is that Sondland has not said that he received a direct order from the president to be corrupt. and what's more, Sondland DID say that Trump told him that Ukraine should just do the right thing.

That's going to rise in importance as the day goes on.

I mean we all know that trump was the crime boss here, who sent his people out to crime...but the law doesn't always follow reason.

X-Runner wrote:

If this was a movie, the defense would end the trial right now and make a plea deal.

In this case, the plea would be Trump resigns and there will be no formal impeachment or removal.

The impeachment process would still continue because a lot or people are implicated beyond the orange one. Pence has been thrown under the bus.

What might be interesting is what happens if Trump resigns, and McConnell rapidly swears in Pence. And Pence selects a VP. Then Pence gets impeached. Who becomes president then? Pelosi (as the Constitution stipulates) or Pence's VP (the usual path except the that person must be approved by majorities in the House and Senate)? I don't see the House allowing a Republican end around like that to keep the presidency.