Correct. Amb. Volker took apart the Democrats’ ENTIRE case.
Rep Mike Turner (OH): "Did he ever say to you that he was not going to allow aid with the US to go to Ukraine unless there were investigations into Burisma, the Bidens or the 2016 election?"
VOLKER: "No he did not."
That should be game, set, match.
Pencil Neck has dug himself a hole and continues to make a fool of himself.
No quid pro quo
No bribery
No extortion
Clown show.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Drop your overly partisan bias. No bribery, B.S. charge. Would not hold up in court. Have some common sense.
impeachment is obviously not a legal proceeding.
Hey, you want to excuse this kind of presidential activity and invite politicians including presidents to invite foreign nations to meddle in our elections and obstruct investigations... that's your prerogative.
Something like 70% of the country feels differently than you on this. Not partisan any more.
eh, scratch that last. Polling is weird on this. Have to look into it.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Correct. Amb. Volker took apart the Democrats’ ENTIRE case.
Rep Mike Turner (OH): "Did he ever say to you that he was not going to allow aid with the US to go to Ukraine unless there were investigations into Burisma, the Bidens or the 2016 election?"
VOLKER: "No he did not."
That should be game, set, match.
Pencil Neck has dug himself a hole and continues to make a fool of himself.
No quid pro quo
No bribery
No extortion
Clown show.
It's been established by every witness that trump policy was to hold the military aid until they announced the investigations. That isn't in dispute anymore.
What is lacking is sort of directly tying that to trump. Organized crime figures often never say out loud the crimes they want committed.
But anyway, Sondland will probably provide that direct linkage tomorrow. Trump trusted sondland and sondland ran this guns for dirt operation, under trump's instruction.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Drop your overly partisan bias. No bribery, B.S. charge. Would not hold up in court. Have some common sense.
impeachment is obviously not a legal proceeding.
Hey, you want to excuse this kind of presidential activity and invite politicians including presidents to invite foreign nations to meddle in our elections and obstruct investigations... that's your prerogative.
Something like 70% of the country feels differently than you on this. Not partisan any more.
LOL, 70% of the country. Bahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
You are referring to that lame ABC poll which polled a whopping 500 adults, not even voters with no party affiliation given. Only 21% in poll even said they are paying attention to impeachment. Garbage poll.
Come on agip, this is the hill you want to die on? Do better.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
agip wrote:
impeachment is obviously not a legal proceeding.
Hey, you want to excuse this kind of presidential activity and invite politicians including presidents to invite foreign nations to meddle in our elections and obstruct investigations... that's your prerogative.
Something like 70% of the country feels differently than you on this. Not partisan any more.
LOL, 70% of the country. Bahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
You are referring to that lame ABC poll which polled a whopping 500 adults, not even voters with no party affiliation given. Only 21% in poll even said they are paying attention to impeachment. Garbage poll.
Come on agip, this is the hill you want to die on? Do better.
agreed - you'll see above that I already withdrew my comment on polling.
agip wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Correct. Amb. Volker took apart the Democrats’ ENTIRE case.
Rep Mike Turner (OH): "Did he ever say to you that he was not going to allow aid with the US to go to Ukraine unless there were investigations into Burisma, the Bidens or the 2016 election?"
VOLKER: "No he did not."
That should be game, set, match.
Pencil Neck has dug himself a hole and continues to make a fool of himself.
No quid pro quo
No bribery
No extortion
Clown show.
It's been established by every witness that trump policy was to hold the military aid until they announced the investigations. That isn't in dispute anymore.
What is lacking is sort of directly tying that to trump. Organized crime figures often never say out loud the crimes they want committed.
But anyway, Sondland will probably provide that direct linkage tomorrow. Trump trusted sondland and sondland ran this guns for dirt operation, under trump's instruction.
From two guys who were actually on the call:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-ukraine-envoy-nsc-official-testify-in-second-round-of-impeachment-testimonyNo quid pro quo
No bribery
No extortion
Clown show.
agip wrote:
agip wrote:
impeachment is obviously not a legal proceeding.
Hey, you want to excuse this kind of presidential activity and invite politicians including presidents to invite foreign nations to meddle in our elections and obstruct investigations... that's your prerogative.
Something like 70% of the country feels differently than you on this. Not partisan any more.
eh, scratch that last. Polling is weird on this. Have to look into it.
Has zero to do with what I or anyone supports. The charge has no legs. Democrats would be better served finding an electable candidate rather than pushing this charade. You would think they would have learned by now. Talking dumb.
for Igy
this is all about whether we will accept politicians inviting foreign nations to meddle with our elections. Trump has done exactly that at least three times. He got away with it with Russia and China, so he moved on to extorting Ukraine to do it too.
And he'll do it again and again unless congress makes him stop.
The nation should not be ok with that. Republicans seem to be ok with it.
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1196986143314563074?s=20
agip wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Correct. Amb. Volker took apart the Democrats’ ENTIRE case.
Rep Mike Turner (OH): "Did he ever say to you that he was not going to allow aid with the US to go to Ukraine unless there were investigations into Burisma, the Bidens or the 2016 election?"
VOLKER: "No he did not."
That should be game, set, match.
Pencil Neck has dug himself a hole and continues to make a fool of himself.
No quid pro quo
No bribery
No extortion
Clown show.
It's been established by every witness that trump policy was to hold the military aid until they announced the investigations. That isn't in dispute anymore.
What is lacking is sort of directly tying that to trump. Organized crime figures often never say out loud the crimes they want committed.
But anyway, Sondland will probably provide that direct linkage tomorrow. Trump trusted sondland and sondland ran this guns for dirt operation, under trump's instruction.
They won’t have to play prisoner’s dilema because Trump won’t allow those who can put the nail in the coffin to testify. We already knew this would happen.
Sally Vix wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Wrong! Sally can’t read the Constitution, one thing she & fat boy have in common. We have civilian/political leadership of the armed forces.
You are correct. I am not to familiar with the US Constitution. I am much more knowledgeable with the Constitution of the Russian Federation. You got me there!
You are not familiar with anything, mate.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
agip wrote:
this is today, from the guy Rs said would save trump's tushie.
Instead, he confirms that sondland believed the whole thing was a quid pro quo.
He confirmed the story the Rs still deny: that ukraine would not get the aid unless they announced the investigations.
If sondland confirms this on live tv...I have to believe at least 3 R senators would join with the Ds in forcing Mitch to have a real trial.
It's looking very very bad for trump.
https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status/1196910273245917185?s=20Not really an impeachable offense. The Democrats would be better off giving up on this nonsense and find an electable candidate—not Biden by the way.
I sure wish you reDUMBlicans would make up your mind. Was it a “perfect” call? Was it no quid pro quo? Did the whistleblower collude with Schiff? Now with all this evidence presented by Trump Administration folks even brain dead Trump d*ck suckers have to admit it was a terrible call. So now it just not an impeachable offense. ???Give me a break!
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
The more they drag this impeachment hoax the worse it gets for the "Demwits."
No quid pro quo
No bribery
Clown show.
You must be blind as a tree kangaroo and deaf as an Australian stumpy-tail cattle dog, mate.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Impeachment inquiry is missing legs. Joke really. Not a good reflection on the Democratic Party.
Ah, idiot wanker #3 has popped his head out of the wombat hole and offered up his sage opinion. You aren't crazy like the other two idiot wankers, mate, but you are as stupid. Idiot wanker.
Pookie Washington wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Not really an impeachable offense. The Democrats would be better off giving up on this nonsense and find an electable candidate—not Biden by the way.
I sure wish you reDUMBlicans would make up your mind. Was it a “perfect” call? Was it no quid pro quo? Did the whistleblower collude with Schiff? Now with all this evidence presented by Trump Administration folks even brain dead Trump d*ck suckers have to admit it was a terrible call. So now it just not an impeachable offense. ???Give me a break!
Rigged for Hillary and Ghost of Igloi are both idiot wankers. They are also both incredibly stupid people. What Trump has done here is Bribery. Someone else said Sondland will confirm that, and that's right. The Orange Nightmare also broke campaign finance laws by asking Ukraine and China to investigate the Bidens in front of TV cameras. For them to say there is nothing here is asinine. Idiot bogan wankers.
Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg says in a statement:
“I was on the much-reported July 25 call between President Donald Trump and President Zelensky … I heard nothing wrong or improper on the call. I had and have no concerns.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJx5bwPU4AI3j5t?format=png&name=small
A 3 Star General trumps a Lt Col. Pencil Neck can subpoena him but won't.
Clown show.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg says in a statement:
“I was on the much-reported July 25 call between President Donald Trump and President Zelensky … I heard nothing wrong or improper on the call. I had and have no concerns.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJx5bwPU4AI3j5t?format=png&name=smallA 3 Star General trumps a Lt Col. Pencil Neck can subpoena him but won't.
Clown show.
He's a lackey. He is not a General. We already know the details of the call, so we don't need to hear his opinion about it. Trump committed a crime. This is indisputable. You are a fool.
Trump supporter and bigots lose again.
Hope he goes away for a long time. Imagine being 55 years old, that ignorant, that easily triggered and that angry as to threaten a young woman’s life. Pathetic, empty existence.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Drop your overly partisan bias. No bribery, B.S. charge. Would not hold up in court. Have some common sense.
You are a coward and liar. At least Rigged openly admits to being a Trumpette. You are as bad as Sally and Rigged, but without the integrity to admit that you are indeed a Trumpette, through and through.
You are disgusting.
P wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Drop your overly partisan bias. No bribery, B.S. charge. Would not hold up in court. Have some common sense.
You are a coward and liar. At least Rigged openly admits to being a Trumpette. You are as bad as Sally and Rigged, but without the integrity to admit that you are indeed a Trumpette, through and through.
You are disgusting.
Don't be too hard on him. I actually don't think he's disgusting. He's just dumb as a bag of hammers. That much is clear.
agip wrote:
for Igy
this is all about whether we will accept politicians inviting foreign nations to meddle with our elections. Trump has done exactly that at least three times. He got away with it with Russia and China, so he moved on to extorting Ukraine to do it too.
And he'll do it again and again unless congress makes him stop.
The nation should not be ok with that. Republicans seem to be ok with it.
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1196986143314563074?s=20
It is a little less phony than the Russia Hoax, but lacks legs. Interestingly the affair focuses light on the corruption of Joe and Hunter Biden. I think Flagpole’s frustration will reach a higher level.