Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Maybe time for a FP space aliens comment?
Those damn space aliens can much up the works.
"muck"
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Maybe time for a FP space aliens comment?
Those damn space aliens can much up the works.
"muck"
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Maybe time for a FP space aliens comment?
Those damn space aliens can much up the works.
lol, we just need them to come down and abduct some trumpanzees, although I suspect they have already come and performed lobotomies by the tens of thousands.
ReallybroReally?WTF? wrote:
Ummm . . . what Universe are you living in where you can find even a single person who is not aware that the Ukraine president knew that he would get the release of the military aid if he did the right thing?
the one in which just yesterday again Taylor said noone in Ukraine knew the aid had been held up until sometime in September
ReallybroReally wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Yesterday, Taylor gave us some new information about a phone call where Tiny talked about investigations into the Bidens.
He said that Sondland and one of his staffers were on the call and heard what Tiny said.
Both Sondland and the staffer are scheduled to testify.
But now it has come out that a third staffer heard the call also.
If they can bring her in to testify then that will be three first-hand accounts of Tiny discussing his bribery plot.
Now we are to believe the staffer sat on this information until after Taylor had first testified?
On the bribing, one of the important things to do when bribing is to make sure the person you are bribing knows what they will get if they do the right thing. Everyone agrees the Ukraine president did not know.
Dude, Sondland, Volker, Perry, Giuliani and perhaps others made it clear what was expected before that phone call.
Zelensky: ..."we are ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes."
Trump: "I would like you to do us a favor though..."
Zelensky then immediately went on to talk about how one of his assistants just spoke to Giuliani. They weren't talking about what to have for lunch. He knew what was going on there. Everyone does NOT agree that he didn't know what was going on there.
Bribery cut and dried.
People don't say, "I am going to bribe you now."
Trollminator wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Those damn space aliens can much up the works.
lol, we just need them to come down and abduct some trumpanzees, although I suspect they have already come and performed lobotomies by the tens of thousands.
:)
Two Sides wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I would rather have him voted out in 2020 than he be impeached.
Kind of ironic since you pretty much guaranteed he would not finish his term.
Surviving until election and being voted out would mean you were wrong again.
Nice catch. Flagpole, just as he guaranteed that Trump would never win in 2016, guaranteed Trump would never finish out his term, either via impeachment and removal or be resignation, is now suggesting that he will finish his term but will be voted out. This clown has no clue.
Hunter Bitten wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leaked-bank-records-confirm-burisma-biden-payments-morgan-stanley-account
This is the only scandal. You Dems now calling it "bribery" are jokes. Just pathetic.
sally’s not bitter! not much!
jesseriley wrote:
sally’s not bitter! not much!
No, Jesse. I just find it highly amusing that you, Flagpole, Trollminator, agip, Fat Hurts and others just pine away on how Trump will be going down, how this impeachment proceeding will be his unravelling, how the ending is coming soon, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, we have been hearing this stuff from day 1 of the Mueller report - and when Flagpole used to always say that the Mueller report - i.e., Mueller is coming, the Clown is done - he no longer says that. He guaranteed that the Mueller report would bring Trump down - now the clown is saying Trump "might not" be re-elected. You clowns can pine away on here til the cows come home but Trump is finishing out his term, he is likely to be re-elected- and you most likely have 5 more years of him. So just sit back, put your seat belts on, and enjoy the ride, you MFs!
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
interessting to compare this to watergate.
What nixon did was cover up a crime that other people committed. He gave orders to obstruct justice. But nixon did not break into the DNC and didn't order it done.
what Trump did was actually the crime. He actually invited foreign nations to mess with our elections and sacrificed US security to get that done.
But Trump didn't really cover this one up, did he? Someone else ordered the transcript put in the secret server so it wouldn't get out. probably someone else.
So really what trump did is worse than nixon, since trump actually did the high crime.
And of course trump obstructed justice every day and twice on sunday in Russia-gate.
So he did it all. Crimes, cover-ups, obstruction, probably perjury.
If trump had shame, he'd be gone. But he doesn't.
You are right, so what we should ask is why the different treatment now? The reason is the electorate's tolerance and level of politicization has shifted significantly since those days. Simpletons are now numb enough to this sort of lawlessness that it's become more acceptable. It has become so acceptable that a deplorable like trump was elected. That was sadly mostly to do with the people's will.
yeah...weird to say but the two party system worked better pre-Reagan when the Dem party had a bunch of racist Southerners and the R party had a bunch of Northern liberals. That way the parties had to hew more to the middle. Now that the R party has captured all the racists and dopes it doesn't have to keep to the center - it can go whereever Zerohedge and Stormfront want it to go.
And Fox of course. The Rs in the field can live on a completely alternate set of facts on Fox.
Great news for Flagpole’s guy.
Fraud charges dropped against Avenetti.
Look for flagpole to back him again in his 2020 run.
That is not what Pelosi is talking about
"William Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, testified for the first time about a close aide who overheard Trump inquiring about the status of his desired “investigations,” just a day after the president raised the issue with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the now infamous phone call on July 25.
“The devastating testimony corroborated evidence of bribery uncovered in the inquiry and that the president abused power and violated his oath by threatening to withhold military aide and a White House meeting in exchange for an investigation into his political rival,” Pelosi said."
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/14/pelosi-trump-bribery-impeachment-070914
Great news!!! wrote:
Great news for Flagpole’s guy.
Fraud charges dropped against Avenetti.
Look for flagpole to back him again in his 2020 run.
Ha!
Even though I realize you are just trolling, I'm in a fun mood today, so I will respond.
1) He's not "my guy."
2) I didn't back him for President before, and I have no interest in doing so now.
3) Avenatti, not Avenetti.
jesseriley wrote:
sally’s not bitter! not much!
Not sure about bitter, but Sally is outrageously stupid.
ReallybroReally wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Yesterday, Taylor gave us some new information about a phone call where Tiny talked about investigations into the Bidens.
He said that Sondland and one of his staffers were on the call and heard what Tiny said.
Both Sondland and the staffer are scheduled to testify.
But now it has come out that a third staffer heard the call also.
If they can bring her in to testify then that will be three first-hand accounts of Tiny discussing his bribery plot.
Now we are to believe the staffer sat on this information until after Taylor had first testified?
On the bribing, one of the important things to do when bribing is to make sure the person you are bribing knows what they will get if they do the right thing. Everyone agrees the Ukraine president did not know.
Zelensky definitely knew that the White House visit was on hold. That visit was extremely important to him. He needed to show the Russians that the US was standing behind his new government.
And if he didn't know about the funding hold before the phone call with Tiny, he certainly found out during the call.
Zelensky: "We are ready to buy some more javelins."
Tiny: "I need you to do me a favor, though"
Roger Stone . . . who was feigning ill health today during jury deliberations ... has trying to decide what he will wear after the verdict. There are his preferences so far.
Sally Vix wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
sally’s not bitter! not much!
No, Jesse. I just find it highly amusing that you, Flagpole, Trollminator, agip, Fat Hurts and others just pine away on how Trump will be going down, how this impeachment proceeding will be his unravelling, how the ending is coming soon, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, we have been hearing this stuff from day 1 of the Mueller report - and when Flagpole used to always say that the Mueller report - i.e., Mueller is coming, the Clown is done - he no longer says that. He guaranteed that the Mueller report would bring Trump down - now the clown is saying Trump "might not" be re-elected. You clowns can pine away on here til the cows come home but Trump is finishing out his term, he is likely to be re-elected- and you most likely have 5 more years of him. So just sit back, put your seat belts on, and enjoy the ride, you MFs!
It would be great if you would stop being so outrageously stupid. You never state the truth. If you can manage reading the rest of this post, TRY very hard to grasp its meaning. I realize that is hard for you to do. Get a snack, take breaks and perhaps even notes if you wish. I actually do NOT like telling you that you are an idiot, but like Trump has left The House no choice but to impeach him, you leave me no choice. Your opinions hold no equivalency to those who tell the truth here, and while you are about 20% troll and 80% outrageously stupid, you do only troll when you have been taken to the woodshed and you actually manage to understand that you have. It is the trolling that you do on this thread especially that makes you the a$$hole that you are. Here's the info you need to focus on...get ready!
1) The Mueller Report has NOTHING to do with the impeachment inquiry going on now. That was for previous crimes and unethical behavior. We now have NEW crimes and unethical behavior. It is deflection at best (I actually think you are too stupid to understand it all) to keep bringing it up.
2) I said Mueller is STILL coming, the clown is down just yesterday, and I will say it again right now...Mueller is STILL coming. The clown is done.
3) I never guaranteed that the Mueller Report would bring Trump down. I mentioned all the things he was going to be charged with as a result of the Mueller INVESTIGATION, and all of those things but one are still in play. Mueller decided that there wasn't enough evidence of collusion (conspiracy)with Russia to pursue him legally. SO FAR I have been wrong about that, HOWEVER, as is pretty much always the case with Trump (because he IS a criminal, and criminals gonna criminal), even that isn't a dead cat just yet as more stuff keeps coming up with regard to that (in Stone's trial, etc.). So, we will see if I am really wrong on that or not (I submit that I will probably be proven wrong). Mueller pawed off a ton of things to other offices that are still being investigated, and due to Trump's actions, the clear cases of Obstruction of Justice that Mueller lists in his report are more likely to be thrown at him now than before he did his Ukraine insanity.
4) Nowhere have I said Trump "might not" be re-elected. Burden of proof on you to prove it since you said it. Just one more example of your stupidity. You can't even remember correctly what anyone said. I was right about 2016 because he cheated to win, and I accounted for that, and I have also been proven right about the 2020 election before it has even happened because I have said he will not win in 2020 unless space alien behavior or criminal behavior makes it so. Well, he has already committed a crime with regard to the 2020 election...he has already cheated, unfairly damaging the person who was the clear front runner at one point and who matches up the best against Trump in the polls.
Here are my predictions just to set you straight, and I have said this before now, so this isn't new.
1) The House WILL impeach him. Rigged said House Democrats were too afraid to do it. He's wrong and will be proven so. This will FOR SURE happen.
2) The Senate either will vote to convict OR he will see the writing on the wall and resign. This is still my PREDICTION. I am not saying "FOR SURE" on this one, because Senate Republicans have shown so far that they are not looking at the facts. I still believe that they will have to do it, so that is still my PREDICTION.
3) Trump will go to prison when he is out of office...unless he dies before the process to put him there is over or there is criminal or space alien behavior that prevents it. This has a greater likelihood than the Senate convicting him.
Once in a while, after you have been appropriately attacked by several here, you tell the lie about never insulting anyone and then you say you want "honest discourse". You have proven that you are INCAPABLE of honest discourse. You lie or tell falsehoods constantly. The falsehoods you tell though are not because you are trying to spin the facts. They are the result of your stupidity and your inability to understand the facts.
Now, this is me telling you how things are. I am not sure you have the focus ability to read it all much less understand it all and commit it to memory. Any direct comments you have to me will go unread. At my discretion, I MIGHT read comments you make to others, and if I am in the mood, I MIGHT respond to those. Improve yourself.
That's..."the clown is done."
Sally Vix wrote:
Hunter Bitten wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leaked-bank-records-confirm-burisma-biden-payments-morgan-stanley-accountThis is the only scandal. You Dems now calling it "bribery" are jokes. Just pathetic.
Nope- just another nothingburger from a gossip rag. So it proves Hunter didn't get paid with envelopes of cash, great. Quick, let those Rs know that Joe's son is doing something improper. Surely Rs at the time must have sounded the alarm when Joe tried to get that prosecutor fired.. oh wait
