Look at the animation for the flat earth model. It clearly shows why one cannot see the sun 24 hours a day:
Look at the animation for the flat earth model. It clearly shows why one cannot see the sun 24 hours a day:
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A bit of a problem for this one. You could make this work for a given observer at a given location, but another observer 1000 miles away in one direction along the arc would see the Sun's apparent diameter fluctuate from rougly 1500 arc seconds to about 3000 arcseconds, because it's distance from this observer would range from 2000 miles to 4000 miles
Indeed, the sun look twice as big on the equator as at the poles.
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bubble boy wrote:Does the atmosphere over the flat Earth form a kind of bubble then?
What keeps it in position? Seems it would leak over the edges.
Impenetrable barrier holds the atmosphere in. I believe this what Admiral Byrd's pilots crashed into and that the barrier is transparent.
So there is a transparent barrier of glass above Earth that has never broken due to meteorite collisions over billions of years. How did it get there? What natural processes could possibly even have a shot at creating this non-moving, airtight glass dome?
I would be genuinely impressed if you can provide a reasonable explanation.
If not, just ignore my question like all the other ones that disprove your "argument."
Legit question wrote:
“Although the Sun is at all times above and parallel to the Earth’s surface, it appears to ascend the firmament from morning until noon, and to descend and sink below the horizon at evening. This arises from a simple and everywhere visible law of perspective. A flock of birds, when passing over a flat or marshy country, always appears to descend as it recedes; and if the flock is extensive, the first bird appears lower, or nearer to the horizon than the last. The farthest light in a row of lamps appears the lowest, although each one has the same altitude. Bearing these phenomena in mind, it will easily be seen how the Sun, although always parallel to the surface of the Earth, must appear to ascend when approaching, and descend after leaving the meridian or noon-day position.â€
-Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition†(85)
Who is Samuel Rowbotham? Where did he receive his doctorate? Why should anyone care what he thinks about the shape of the planet?
Dumping a bunch of youtube videos by a collection of crackpots does not strengthen your argument. Especially when their credentials are non-existent or false.
I have seen your arguments on other sites, almost verbatim, and they didn't get anywhere.
How many forums have you been embarrassed on, or are you a teflon troll?
Legit question wrote:
Look at the animation for the flat earth model. It clearly shows why one cannot see the sun 24 hours a day:
http://youtu.be/hiOhsKAR6OY
Oh man the video is not helping . . . it shows that maybe the sun doesn't shine a ton of light on you at night, but it also doesn't prove that you couldn't see the sun at night.
It is really bright. One time I stared at it hurt after a minute or two. So based on the video I might not get warm or be able to see down the street, I will see problably the sun. I mean, the stars in the sky are a lot less bright but I can still seem them.
In my 100m circular field analysis the bright orb is still almost 40 feet in the air. There is a line of sight to the sun just about anywhere.
But for me, the problem is that if you can see the sun 100 miles from the center of the disk, then you should still be able to see the sun if you are 100 miles away from the center on the opposite side of the center.
In other words, moving 200 miles in any direction on the earth shouldn't result in the sun completely disappearing.
I think that I am one to something with the dark matter . . . or the the sun is possibly a tilted disk that is invisible from the side.
We need to figure this out legit question.
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Legit question wrote:Impenetrable barrier holds the atmosphere in. I believe this what Admiral Byrd's pilots crashed into and that the barrier is transparent.
So there is a transparent barrier of glass above Earth that has never broken due to meteorite collisions over billions of years. How did it get there? What natural processes could possibly even have a shot at creating this non-moving, airtight glass dome?
I would be genuinely impressed if you can provide a reasonable explanation.
If not, just ignore my question like all the other ones that disprove your "argument."
The meteors are under the barrier. Simple.
They are only crackpots because you refuse to examine the evidence. Plus you haven't proved a globe either. You believe the frauds at NASA.
snsnsnsnsns wrote:
. or the the sun is possibly a tilted disk that is invisible from the side.
Tilt a disk and take a look at it. No longer round so scratch your disk theory.
Perfect observing night outside. The trapezium in the Orion Nebula is a nice winter target. It won't resolve for me with the 25mm eyepiece (16x) but separates into it's four component stars with just the 2x barlow (32x) added. Now I'll swap out the combo with just the 10mm (40x). Then go to the 10mm and barlow for 80x. 80x is scratching at the limit of resolution for a 400x80 achro.
Amateurs have sent balloons to heights of over 121,000 feet and you can watch many videos online of the horizon rising with the camera-level and remaining perfectly flat 360 degrees around. NASA videos and other “official†sources, however, such as the Red Bull skydive at 128,000 feet have been caught adding fake curvature to the Earth via wide-angle lenses and CGI and post-production work. NASA lies and sheep believe them.
Not familiar with the dark matter around the sun. You're much further along than I am.
OMG you're so full of s**t! I have an uncle who recently took a trip to Antarctica. The final leg of the journey was on a huge container ship of some kind. It most definitely was not a government mission. It did cost him a fortune though. I saw hundreds of pictures of his journey. All the ice mountains, icebergs, etc. One thing was missing...a never ending 150' high wall of ice holding the oceans back from emptying into space. You need a padded jacket and cell. h.
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Thanks to U.N. treaties and constant military surveillance, Antarctica remains cloaked in government secrecy, both purported “no-fly/no-sail†zones, with several reports of civilian pilots and captains being shooed away and escorted back under threat of violence. No independent exploration of Antarctica is allowed by the 47 UN treaty nations which guard it, we cannot photograph the ice wall or explore beyond it. Why the secrecy?
Legit question wrote:
bubble boy wrote:Does the atmosphere over the flat Earth form a kind of bubble then?
What keeps it in position? Seems it would leak over the edges.
Impenetrable barrier holds the atmosphere in. I believe this what Admiral Byrd's pilots crashed into and that the barrier is transparent.
I sure hope it is transparent. It would be inexcusable to fly into something that wasn't.
Clouds aren't transparent and people fly into them all the time.
snsnsnsnsns wrote:
I think that I am one to something with the dark matter . . . .
At most this only touches on obscuring the Sun to explain night time. It won't help with the daytime. As long as the Sun is up and visible, it's visually round and it's about 0.5 degrees diameter, no matter where it's viewed from. At 3000 miles away, you can bend it, fold or shine it anyway you want but it won't get it to hold it's shape and size for everyone who can see it.
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OMG you're so full of s**t! I have an uncle who recently took a trip to Antarctica. The final leg of the journey was on a huge container ship of some kind. It most definitely was not a government mission. It did cost him a fortune though. I saw hundreds of pictures of his journey. All the ice mountains, icebergs, etc. One thing was missing...a never ending 150' high wall of ice holding the oceans back from emptying into space. You need a padded jacket and cell. h.
Legit question wrote:Thanks to U.N. treaties and constant military surveillance, Antarctica remains cloaked in government secrecy, both purported “no-fly/no-sail†zones, with several reports of civilian pilots and captains being shooed away and escorted back under threat of violence. No independent exploration of Antarctica is allowed by the 47 UN treaty nations which guard it, we cannot photograph the ice wall or explore beyond it. Why the secrecy?
Unless his ship was delivering goods to the scientists at one of the ports, or approved for tourist visit and or military matters, you just can't show up there. Besides he was no where near the ice wall. Ask your uncle what landmarks he visited. Plenty of icebergs everywhere in Southern Hemisphere.
snsnsnsnsn wrote:
Clouds aren't transparent and people fly into them all the time.
People can't fly, moran.
I have looked at the evidence. There is none to be found in support of the FE community. Much like truthers, birthers, hoaxers, and the rest of the tin foil hat brigade, you rely on innuendo, half truths, incorrect suppositions, and outright lies in order to put forth a claim that lacks any merit.
There is no science in your claims, or the claims of those youtube videos.
All of your arguments have been examined, and they have been found to be lacking any semblance of credibility, much like "Dr" Rowbothan.
When your overarching claim is a world wide governmental conspiracy to hide the truth from the people, your position becomes untenable.
Are you calling Captain Cook and Captain Ross full of shit too?
In 1773 Captain Cook became the first modern explorer known to have breached the Antarctic Circle and reached the ice barrier. During three voyages, lasting three years and eight days, Captain Cook and crew sailed a total of 60,000 miles along the Antarctic coastline never once finding an inlet or path through or beyond the massive glacial wall! Captain Cook wrote: “The ice extended east 57 and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height. It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the pole, or perhaps joins some land to which it has been fixed since creation.â€
Your uncle was not in the same area as Captain Cook or Captain Ross. Try again.
On October 5th, 1839 another explorer, James Clark Ross began a series of Antarctic voyages lasting a total of 4 years and 5 months. Ross and his crew sailed two heavily armored warships thousands of miles, losing many men from hurricanes and icebergs, looking for an entry point beyond the southern glacial wall. Upon first confronting the massive barrier Captain Ross wrote of the wall, “extending from its eastern extreme point as far as the eye could discern to the eastward. It presented an extraordinary appearance, gradually increasing in height, as we got nearer to it, and proving at length to be a perpendicular cliff of ice, between one hundred and fifty feet and two hundred feet above the level of the sea, perfectly flat and level at the top, and without any fissures or promontories on its even seaward face.
Legit question wrote:
Wow, just wow wrote:OMG you're so full of s**t! I have an uncle who recently took a trip to Antarctica. The final leg of the journey was on a huge container ship of some kind. It most definitely was not a government mission. It did cost him a fortune though. I saw hundreds of pictures of his journey. All the ice mountains, icebergs, etc. One thing was missing...a never ending 150' high wall of ice holding the oceans back from emptying into space. You need a padded jacket and cell. h.
Unless his ship was delivering goods to the scientists at one of the ports, or approved for tourist visit and or military matters, you just can't show up there. Besides he was no where near the ice wall. Ask your uncle what landmarks he visited. Plenty of icebergs everywhere in Southern Hemisphere.
Why do you keep saying Southern Hemisphere? I thought is was a big hula hoop of ice in every direction?
Can we start calling it the big rim?
It must take a heck of a lot of security to monitor that length of ice.
Trump has no chance with his Mexico and Canada fences and they will be WAY shorter.
Not really that much to patrol. Look at the flat earth map and the continents closest to the outer ring: South America, Africa and Australia and maybe NZ. Outside of those places, no one is taking a ship or flying from another area, it's too remote.