Donald Trump says he'll be arrested on Tuesday. Halfway home to my goal of Trump and Hillary both being imprisoned, BUT.....

rojo · 2023-03-18T10:36:57-04:00

I've always thought it was embarrassing that the two people nominated for president in 2016 were Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton and joked it would be great to see both end up in prison.Well Trump is saying he'll be arrested on Tuesday for paying Stormy Daniels to stay quiet about their affair. Now, while my disgust for Trump and Hilary stemmed from my belief that that the Presidency should be reserved for the best of the best and we have 300 million to choose from,and I was choosing these two would be at the bottomof the list, but I'm not a fan of this Trump arrest.When electing people, we should hold the candidates to a very high standard. But we should not be prosecuting them for stuff they wouldn't be prosecuted for as normal citizens. That ends up turning the US into a kangaroo court wher the parties just jail the other side once they gain power.The logic for calling Trump's payment to Stormy a felony election law crime is a stretch.[quote]Reason Mag wrote:It looks like Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, a Democrat, intends to pursue criminal charges against former President Donald Trump. But the charges he seems to have in mind, based on a 2016 hush payment to porn star Stormy Daniels, are so iffy that they reinforce Trump's reflexive complaint that he is, as always, the victim of a long-running Democratic "witch hunt." Daniels claims she had a sexual affair with Trump in 2006, when he was married to his current wife, former First Lady Melania Trump. Although Trump denies the affair, he arranged a $130,000 payment to Daniels in the fall of 2016 to keep her story out of the press. There is nothing inherently illegal about that payment. But Michael Cohen, the Trump lawyer who paid off Daniels and was reimbursed by Trump, pleaded guilty in 2018 to violating federal law by making an excessive campaign contribution. The theory underlying that charge was that Cohen "contributed" the hush money at Trump's behest for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election," as opposed to avoiding personal embarrassment for Trump or sparing Melania Trump's feelings. As former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith noted at the time, that interpretation was open to question. "The best interpretation of the law is that it simply is not a campaign expense to pay blackmail for things that happened years before one's candidacy—and thus nothing Cohen (or, in this case, Trump, too) did is a campaign finance crime," Smith wrote in a 2018 Reason essay. "But at a minimum, it is unclear whether paying blackmail to a mistress is 'for the purpose of influencing an election,' and so must be paid with campaign funds, or a 'personal use,' and so prohibited from being paid with campaign funds."[/quote] If you are going to go out of your way to charge Trump, then certainly Hilary needs to be arrrested for her emails. The head of the FBI basicallys aid what she did was a crime, he just didn't think it was one that warranted prosecution as she didn't do it intentionally.https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-2/https://reason.com/2023/03/10/transforming-stormy-daniels-hush-payment-into-a-felony-would-reinforce-trumps-witch-hunt-complaint/PS. I guess counter argument would be we need to hold our candidates to even higher standards? I guess that would be ok if we then applied that to everyone, not just the candidates we most dislike. So if you do Trump, you also need to do Hillary.

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3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:48pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
perhaps the greatest damage trump has done to the nation is how he has convinced a third of the country of lies...he has convinced the nation that HRC and Biden are as corrupt as he is, and therefore there is no moral high ground.
Just so damaging to the country and to democracy. Tens of millions cant' tell the difference between truth and propaganda anymore. Because of Trump, the GOP and Fox.
We're doomed.

I take exception to bolded text. If those "tens of millions" could tell the difference between truth and propaganda before, then they would have been able to see through the propaganda of Trump, the GOP and Fox.

Logically, those tens of millions never could tell the difference. It is simply that Trump, the GOP and Fox have shamelessly used that fact to their advantage on a scale never seen before in this country.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:49pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
The SDNY has been investigating Trump for decades. It is not about Republicans fearful of Trump or nondisclosure agreements or destroying papers or anything else. They have spent millions on investigating Trump for everything and everything has come back to this ... no evidence of wrongoing by Trump. no tax fraud, no Stormy Daniels payoffs NO NOTHING. Get over it. Trump is NOT going to prison.
quick reminder that Trump's business was found to be a fraudulent organization and his CFO was sent to jail.
and that trump is virtually banned from being involved in a charity in NY because he stole from his.
Just in case you forgot.

So ... to summarize your post ... Trump's CFO was a rogue employee and the SDNY had nothing criminal to charge Trump with? He got off scot-free and his rogue employee went to prison. Often in corporations you have rogue employees who act without the head honcho knowing a thing.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:51pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Link:www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-...
There's direct evidence of Biden's corruption.
There's scant evidence of Trump's corruption despite 7 years of desperate searching.
You think in black and white. Your mind lacks the horsepower to see any nuance. Your guys are good, and the others are evil. An education could have helped but it is likely too late.

Says the guy who insists Trump is the anti-christ and Biden and Clinton are pure.

You're a moron.

Absolutely zero self awareness.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:52pm EDT

re: rojo

DA now spinning this as "Trump made up his impending arrest and is now causing interference"

LMAO

Then why his a grand jury convening? Why was Manhattan constructing barricades?

Total clown show 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:52pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
quick reminder that Trump's business was found to be a fraudulent organization and his CFO was sent to jail.
and that trump is virtually banned from being involved in a charity in NY because he stole from his.
Just in case you forgot.
So ... to summarize your post ... Trump's CFO was a rogue employee and the SDNY had nothing criminal to charge Trump with? He got off scot-free and his rogue employee went to prison. Often in corporations you have rogue employees who act without the head honcho knowing a thing.

His position is that Trump is a moron and a terrible businessman.

Who's also a criminal mastermind who's managed to hide is crimes or get them put onto other people for decades so he can stay in business.

Agip is an imbecile. He bursts into tears and rages about Trump when he burns his toast.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:53pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Jaere wrote:
You think in black and white. Your mind lacks the horsepower to see any nuance. Your guys are good, and the others are evil. An education could have helped but it is likely too late.
Says the guy who insists Trump is the anti-christ and Biden and Clinton are pure.
You're a moron.
Absolutely zero self awareness.

Why do you impute falsehoods onto others? You do this all the time. Please explain where you have evidence of what you claim I do.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:53pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
So ... to summarize your post ... Trump's CFO was a rogue employee and the SDNY had nothing criminal to charge Trump with? He got off scot-free and his rogue employee went to prison. Often in corporations you have rogue employees who act without the head honcho knowing a thing.
His position is that Trump is a moron and a terrible businessman.
Who's also a criminal mastermind who's managed to hide is crimes or get them put onto other people for decades so he can stay in business.
Agip is an imbecile. He bursts into tears and rages about Trump when he burns his toast.

Agip has a much higher IQ than you. It is not even close.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:57pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
His position is that Trump is a moron and a terrible businessman.
Who's also a criminal mastermind who's managed to hide is crimes or get them put onto other people for decades so he can stay in business.
Agip is an imbecile. He bursts into tears and rages about Trump when he burns his toast.
Agip has a much higher IQ than you. It is not even close.

CORRECT!

3 years ago 03/23/2023 1:59pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Says the guy who insists Trump is the anti-christ and Biden and Clinton are pure.
You're a moron.
Absolutely zero self awareness.
Why do you impute falsehoods onto others? You do this all the time. Please explain where you have evidence of what you claim I do.

"Adult" is an angry, stupid, juvenile troll.

Imputing falsehoods is what he does. It gets reactions.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:00pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Says the guy who insists Trump is the anti-christ and Biden and Clinton are pure.
You're a moron.
Absolutely zero self awareness.
Why do you impute falsehoods onto others? You do this all the time. Please explain where you have evidence of what you claim I do.

There's that lack of self awareness again...

"You think in black and white. Your mind lacks the horsepower to see any nuance. Your guys are good, and the others are evil. An education could have helped but it is likely too late."

What do you know about my education?

Please explain what evidence you have about my education level?

You're attacking me for not taking the Biden is innocent and Trump is dirty side of the debate while claiming I can't see nuance.

If you had any "education" you'd understand how idiotic that is.

This post was edited 8 minutes after it was posted.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:03pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
His position is that Trump is a moron and a terrible businessman.
Who's also a criminal mastermind who's managed to hide is crimes or get them put onto other people for decades so he can stay in business.
Agip is an imbecile. He bursts into tears and rages about Trump when he burns his toast.
Agip has a much higher IQ than you. It is not even close.

You say this because you're stupid and you agree with agip.

Meanwhile:

"Your mind lacks the horsepower to see any nuance. Your guys are good, and the others are evil. An education could have helped but it is likely too late."

This is a description of agip.

If your supposition is true it would apply to both of us since we are polar opposites.

But since you're a stupid person you can't recognize your own bias.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:10pm EDT

re: Real Obvi

Trump wasn't arrested just to prove him wrong.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:15pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Jaere wrote:
Agip has a much higher IQ than you. It is not even close.
You say this because you're stupid and you agree with agip.
Meanwhile:
"Your mind lacks the horsepower to see any nuance. Your guys are good, and the others are evil. An education could have helped but it is likely too late."
This is a description of agip.
If your supposition is true it would apply to both of us since we are polar opposites.
But since you're a stupid person you can't recognize your own bias.

I can always get a reaction out of you and you have all day to keep posting. I feel bad for you as all of your posts reveal how desperately angry and lonely you are. It is unfortunate that life didn’t work out for you.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:23pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
You say this because you're stupid and you agree with agip.
Meanwhile:
"Your mind lacks the horsepower to see any nuance. Your guys are good, and the others are evil. An education could have helped but it is likely too late."
This is a description of agip.
If your supposition is true it would apply to both of us since we are polar opposites.
But since you're a stupid person you can't recognize your own bias.
I can always get a reaction out of you and you have all day to keep posting. I feel bad for you as all of your posts reveal how desperately angry and lonely you are. It is unfortunate that life didn’t work out for you.

"Why do you impute falsehoods onto others? You do this all the time."

If you actually knew anything about my life you'd be even more enraged than you already are.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:30pm EDT

re: Jaere

Trump is now truthing pictures of himself w baseball bat next to Bragg. He is angry and scared and wants his cult to go fight for him.

But his cult appears only willing to “both sides keyboard fight” on message board like this about the Clintons.

Trump needs more. We will see how loyal the red cap crowd proves to be. If adult in the womb is a reliable indicator then it looks like they will be staying in Moms basement for this one.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:35pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Jaere wrote:
I can always get a reaction out of you and you have all day to keep posting. I feel bad for you as all of your posts reveal how desperately angry and lonely you are. It is unfortunate that life didn’t work out for you.
"Why do you impute falsehoods onto others? You do this all the time."
If you actually knew anything about my life you'd be even more enraged than you already are.

Well I know that you are obsessed with accusing others of being pedophiles, which makes me wonder what it is you are hiding, and if you might not be the one with this problem.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:48pm EDT

re: Stater of the obviouss

Stater of the obviouss wrote:
Trump is now truthing pictures of himself w baseball bat next to Bragg. He is angry and scared and wants his cult to go fight for him.
But his cult appears only willing to “both sides keyboard fight” on message board like this about the Clintons.
Trump needs more. We will see how loyal the red cap crowd proves to be. If adult in the womb is a reliable indicator then it looks like they will be staying in Moms basement for this one.

With their final hail mary, seething libs show their hand, baiting the alphas.

What a dreadful, desperate look.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:50pm EDT

re: Jamb innnnnnn

Jamb innnnnnn wrote:
Stater of the obviouss wrote:
Trump is now truthing pictures of himself w baseball bat next to Bragg. He is angry and scared and wants his cult to go fight for him.
But his cult appears only willing to “both sides keyboard fight” on message board like this about the Clintons.
Trump needs more. We will see how loyal the red cap crowd proves to be. If adult in the womb is a reliable indicator then it looks like they will be staying in Moms basement for this one.
With their final hail mary, seething libs show their hand, baiting the alphas.
What a dreadful, desperate look.

Are you in a relationship with the Adult?

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:50pm EDT

re: Jaere

Jaere wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
"Why do you impute falsehoods onto others? You do this all the time."
If you actually knew anything about my life you'd be even more enraged than you already are.
Well I know that you are obsessed with accusing others of being pedophiles, which makes me wonder what it is you are hiding, and if you might not be the one with this problem.

You sure do a lot of projecting.

I called a Lincoln Project fan a pedophile in jest because the Lincoln Project is involved in pedophilia.

The only other time was to highlight how stupid it is to make such claims without evidence.

You know, like you keep doing, while accusing me of doing what you can't seem to stop doing.

This post was edited 30 seconds after it was posted.

3 years ago 03/23/2023 2:54pm EDT

re: Real Obvi

This is obviously Flagpole. Nobody else types "CORRECT" in all caps

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