https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financialjesseriley wrote:
Bolton sez trump only helps Turkey because of his own businesses there.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financialjesseriley wrote:
Bolton sez trump only helps Turkey because of his own businesses there.
Sally Vix wrote:
Mitch has the power to delay this impeachment process for 1000 years.
And Nancy has the power to continue to hold hearings and gather testimony for a 1000 years without holding an impeachment vote.
She knows Mitch and company won't convict Trump.
They want the impeachment over with now.
She can drag out out through the election.
And if he wins, she can keep it going all through his second term.
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Trolliminator - more insults? Seriously? Can you just disagree with me without insulting me? It is what middle school kids do. The adults chose to have an honest discourse with even-handed opposition. No insults. No name-calling. No other crap. Just honest discourse. But apparently you are acting like a middle school child. That is fine. You can act however you want but NEVER contact me again. I don't do that insult shitt.
You’re not interested in substance - until then [post ignored] as FP says, although I may choose to address you if I wish to
Go spew insults with someone else. I never want to talk to you again. This is the last post. What kind of person are you where you need to insult people? just pathetic and good luck in your anger management. You will never have a post from me ever. Good riddance but best of luck. I don't wish harm on anyone.
We must be doing something right, judging by all the attempts to introduce nazi-only trump threads here.
And the ‘pub congressmen who keep retiring.
Pete is surging in IA - a new poll has him in the lead.
Pete 22%
Joe 19%
Warren 18%
Sanders 13%
But factor in the margin of error and it's basically a four-way tie in IA, per RCP.
Warren, Pete, Sanders, Biden.
Which would be fine...if all four come close to each other that would let Biden survive a loss.
This gates trial news is huge. gates is saying that trump committed perjury, straight up. When trump told mueller he had no convos about Stone and wikileaks.
gates said he was in a car when trump and stone talked about wikileaks.
says two secret service agents were in the car at the same time.
this was apparently in the mueller report but redacted.
Rs are lawless sycophants to defend this guy.
I knew Trump would try to buy votes with a new tax cut.
I remember when conservatives were going crazy about the debt reaching $18 trillion and Trump promising to pay it down or negotiating some forgiveness (to the Americans who invested in it?)
Sally Vix wrote:
Go spew insults with someone else. I never want to talk to you again. This is the last post. What kind of person are you where you need to insult people? just pathetic and good luck in your anger management. You will never have a post from me ever. Good riddance but best of luck. I don't wish harm on anyone.
Place your bets here folks!
I got 3:1 odds Sally responds to Trollminator again in less than 24 hours.
And I'll give you 2:1 for 72 hours
Yes, thanks. Prosecution rests in Stone case. Trump got destroyed & he wasn’t even on trial! Pile on fat boy!
Racket wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Go spew insults with someone else. I never want to talk to you again. This is the last post. What kind of person are you where you need to insult people? just pathetic and good luck in your anger management. You will never have a post from me ever. Good riddance but best of luck. I don't wish harm on anyone.
Place your bets here folks!
I got 3:1 odds Sally responds to Trollminator again in less than 24 hours.
And I'll give you 2:1 for 72 hours
I'll take 72 hours.
But that's only because I think the odds are good that Trollminator doesn't provoke a response in 24. It's really all up to the Trollminator.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Rick Gates testifies that he was present when Trump received advance knowledge of the Wikileaks releases in 2016 from Roger Stone. Trump has denied this ever happened under oath. How will Republicans respond to the fact that Trump committed perjury? Will they shrug and call Rick Gates a liar/NEVERTRUMPER? Will they shrug and deflect with "Buh Clinton/Biden..."? Or will they shrug and say perjury isn't really a crime when Republicans do it? So many intellectually bankrupt options to choose from!
No. Trump did not deny that it ever happened. He said he didn't recall it happened. The attorney who advised Trump on those written statements should have been smart enough to know the difference. I don't think you could prove Trump's guilt on this question "beyond reasonable doubt." Trump could simply claim bad memory and get away with that. Does it look bad on Trump? For sure. But most people have already made up their mind about Trump one way or the other, so it will make a little difference. And given the number of potential criminal charges Trump is already facing upon leaving the office, I don't think it matters whether one more charge is added to the list.
Ciro wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
There are no conservatives here. Trumpers are NOT conservatives. George Will is a conservative.
Trumpers are either JUST stupid or racist. There are no other possibilities.
What about the very wealthy or elite that support Trump because they benefit from the tax breaks he gave them?
Whilst they area very small segment of society, they do exist and couldn’t it be argued that they’re just voting in their own best financial interests?
Yes, they are stupid also. Trump did ridiculous things to prime the stock market early on. I probably benefited from that more than any other poster here. My wealth has increased a lot during Trump's Presidency, and some of that is directly a result of his tax cuts and getting rid of regulations. I would give it all back to get rid of those "tax cuts" and to have most of those regulations back. To support a CRIMINAL who is a SERIAL LIAR and who has clearly DAMAGED OUR NATIONAL SECURITY is STUPID no matter the reason you still support him, including lining your pockets. Now, I no longer believe in Heaven and Hell, but that sounds like someone who would go straight to hell if it existed to me.
Now, I have given ONE exception to the JUST stupid or racist rule, and that is someone who is certifiably insane. There might be a person out there who needs to support a President with a name that rhymes with "Rump" or some other such nonsense. THAT group is so small I do not count it.
For all people who are NOT mentally challenged who support Trump, they are ALL JUST stupid or racist. There are no other possibilities.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
There are no conservatives here. Trumpers are NOT conservatives. George Will is a conservative.
Trumpers are either JUST stupid or racist. There are no other possibilities.
Again with the insults. How pathetic your life must be to come on here and 24/7 call people on the opposite aisle "fool," "assholees," "idiots," and even worse. Ever worst. Is that how you live your life? Insulting those who disagree with you with the nastiest insults that you can think of? How proud your children and you wife must be of you. Flagpole, who lies with reckless abandon here and who spews insults with glee. Oh, he also gleefully calls women "whores." What a wonderful parent you must be. I pity your wife and I double pity your kids.
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Racket wrote:
Ciro wrote:
What about the very wealthy or elite that support Trump because they benefit from the tax breaks he gave them?
Whilst they area very small segment of society, they do exist and couldn’t it be argued that they’re just voting in their own best financial interests?
Flagpole's definition of stupid is "people who voted for Trump." So when he says "stupid people voted for Trump", he's really just presenting his personal definition of what he considers stupid, as the statement is trivially true by tautology under the Flagpole Axiom of Stupid.
It should be pointed out that no one considers this logical system to be either consistent or correct, and seems to exist only in Flagpole's (what I suspect to be increasingly paranoid-schizophrenic) fantasy world.
I find myself once again having to correct someone, and believe it or not, I actually would prefer not to. You are smart enough to know better though, so I do this with some disappointment.
My definition of stupid is NOT "people who voted for Trump." I have explained this several times. It is UNDERSTANDABLE that some people gave Trump a chance in 2016. Democrats have NOT done a good job with the working class of late, and Hillary was a poor candidate. Here it is as clear as I have always made it, but here it is again...
...People who continue to support Donald Trump are one of two things: JUST stupid or Racist.
There are no other possibilities.
Now, here is the definition of "stupid" (note that it is not MY definition, it is THE definition):
Stupid - "having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense."
1) Does supporting a President who is a serial liar show a great lack of intelligence or common sense?
2) Does supporting a President who has clearly broken the law (and not a minor law) show a great lack of intelligence or common sense?
I say YES to both of those. How can the answer be anything BUT that? It is twisting logic to the point of breakage to say that supporting a serial lying criminal President does NOT show a lack of common sense AT A MINIMUM.
We can stop with those two things, but there are many other things I could add. That should be enough. In 2016, we knew Trump was a liar, but we didn't know HOW big of a liar he was. In 2016, most of us knew he was a criminal, but we didn't know HOW big of a criminal he was, and he had not yet of course broken a law that is specifically mentioned in The Constitution.
JUST stupid or racist are people who support Trump today. There is no other answer.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Rick Gates testifies that he was present when Trump received advance knowledge of the Wikileaks releases in 2016 from Roger Stone. Trump has denied this ever happened under oath. How will Republicans respond to the fact that Trump committed perjury? Will they shrug and call Rick Gates a liar/NEVERTRUMPER? Will they shrug and deflect with "Buh Clinton/Biden..."? Or will they shrug and say perjury isn't really a crime when Republicans do it? So many intellectually bankrupt options to choose from!
In other news, leaked emails from a former white nationalist/Breitbart staffer show that Stephen Miller has long been working with Breitbart to push anti-immigration stories, and that they have been laundering propaganda from white nationalist sites as part of this effort. How surprising!
They will look the other way...because they are all stupid.
Fat hurts wrote:
Racket wrote:
Place your bets here folks!
I got 3:1 odds Sally responds to Trollminator again in less than 24 hours.
And I'll give you 2:1 for 72 hours
I'll take 72 hours.
But that's only because I think the odds are good that Trollminator doesn't provoke a response in 24. It's really all up to the Trollminator.
Why can't you reign in your own people? It really gets old getting insulted by people who have no business insulting me. Is that what you come here - for insults or to engage in honest discussion? Pathetic how your side can't control the insults. Little kids do insults. Adults usually have learned to refrain from insults. It is more an indictment of Liberals than it is on anything on my side.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
There is what you claim and then there is what you peddle every single day here. You unequivocally adore trump. We at least know you are not crazy since we have on record that you agreed he has committed an impeachable offense. That still leaves 10% troll and 90% stupid.
Trolliminator - more insults? Seriously? Can you just disagree with me without insulting me? It is what middle school kids do. The adults chose to have an honest discourse with even-handed opposition. No insults. No name-calling. No other crap. Just honest discourse. But apparently you are acting like a middle school child. That is fine. You can act however you want but NEVER contact me again. I don't do that insult shitt.
You are a liar. You have insulted plenty of people, and this has been pointed out to you. You have long worn out your honest discourse call. You continually post debunked crap, repeatedly bring up things that have been beaten to death, and you are never right about ANYTHING. You are not CAPABLE of engaging in honest discourse.
Not sure if you have recognized the pattern yet, but I will respond to you when I want to, but I don't plan to read ANY of your posts directed at me...until you shape up, and I will be able to tell if you have via your responses to others. Good news for you though...at one point you were the only a$$hole here, but Rigged has shown he is also one and a bigger one than you, so you aren't even the worst anymore. Strive to be better. I'm rooting for you.
Flagpole wrote:
Racket wrote:
Flagpole's definition of stupid is "people who voted for Trump." So when he says "stupid people voted for Trump", he's really just presenting his personal definition of what he considers stupid, as the statement is trivially true by tautology under the Flagpole Axiom of Stupid.
It should be pointed out that no one considers this logical system to be either consistent or correct, and seems to exist only in Flagpole's (what I suspect to be increasingly paranoid-schizophrenic) fantasy world.
I find myself once again having to correct someone, and believe it or not, I actually would prefer not to. You are smart enough to know better though, so I do this with some disappointment.
My definition of stupid is NOT "people who voted for Trump." I have explained this several times. It is UNDERSTANDABLE that some people gave Trump a chance in 2016. Democrats have NOT done a good job with the working class of late, and Hillary was a poor candidate. Here it is as clear as I have always made it, but here it is again...
...People who continue to support Donald Trump are one of two things: JUST stupid or Racist.
There are no other possibilities.
Now, here is the definition of "stupid" (note that it is not MY definition, it is THE definition):
Stupid - "having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense."
1) Does supporting a President who is a serial liar show a great lack of intelligence or common sense?
2) Does supporting a President who has clearly broken the law (and not a minor law) show a great lack of intelligence or common sense?
I say YES to both of those. How can the answer be anything BUT that? It is twisting logic to the point of breakage to say that supporting a serial lying criminal President does NOT show a lack of common sense AT A MINIMUM.
We can stop with those two things, but there are many other things I could add. That should be enough. In 2016, we knew Trump was a liar, but we didn't know HOW big of a liar he was. In 2016, most of us knew he was a criminal, but we didn't know HOW big of a criminal he was, and he had not yet of course broken a law that is specifically mentioned in The Constitution.
JUST stupid or racist are people who support Trump today. There is no other answer.
lol OK boomer
Sally Vix wrote:
Let's gather around him and help him make our country great again!
This is one of the reasons you are stupid and why people here are compelled to tell you so. You say crap like that. Trollminator says you are 10% troll and 90% stupid. I could accept that. I tend to think 20% troll and 80% stupid, but that the stupid part is what drives you and that it is a very very deep stupid that is you. The troll part, especially in a thread such as this, makes you also 100% a$$hole.
With so many people here telling you are stupid, perhaps you need to look in the mirror and grasp that. Some self reflection is helpful. Are all of us wrong about you? The saving grace is that for people who are not mentally challenged, they CAN change their behavior so that they are no longer stupid. Stupid is as stupid does after all. Stop saying stupid things, and no one will be able to call you stupid. Right now though, you are so very stupid.