Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

P wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I get that most of you anti-Trumpers shy away from calling Trumpers "stupid." You're either trying to make nice or just don't believe being brutally honest is the right call. You can't honestly believe they are smart in any way. . .

While I agree that Trump is one of the worst human beings on the planet and easily the worst POTUS of all time, your claim here is simply INCORRECT. I personally know more than one physics professor at a top school and more than one mathematician similarly at a top school who support Trump. To say that these people, each of whom have an IQ vastly surpassing your own, are "not smart in any way" is simply demonstrably FALSE.

Pretty tough to argue against Flagpole's point since he'll just arbitrarily expand the definition of "stupid" to be as wide as he needs it to be. The entire thing is borderline tautological under his under premises of the term.

Racket wrote:

P wrote:

While I agree that Trump is one of the worst human beings on the planet and easily the worst POTUS of all time, your claim here is simply INCORRECT. I personally know more than one physics professor at a top school and more than one mathematician similarly at a top school who support Trump. To say that these people, each of whom have an IQ vastly surpassing your own, are "not smart in any way" is simply demonstrably FALSE.

Pretty tough to argue against Flagpole's point since he'll just arbitrarily expand the definition of "stupid" to be as wide as he needs it to be. The entire thing is borderline tautological under his under premises of the term.

Agreed.

Fortunately there are a small number of individuals on this thread who actually have some level of understanding of, and respect for, the truth. I count you as one of them.

1) I actually do know their IQs. So your claim on this matter is either a lie or simply a display of ignorance. You pick.

2) While I do not know your IQ precisely, your posts make it abundantly clear that it is well below those of my colleagues.

3) I never said anything about "every scientist or mathematician at a university (being) not stupid". So, nice straw man.

4) You rejecting my assertions, while not absolute proof that they are correct, certainly is a strong indication that they are just that.

Now, I know that you can't stand being shown to be INCORRECT and will undoubtedly come back with invalid and insupportable nonsense. I can assure you that your subsequent post will be ignored and unread. I have wasted enough of my time on the likes of you.

You are now dismissed.

Da Truf wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

If it’s any consolation, I can say that trump’s appearance in Alabama had a completely random effect on the game (in the minds of trumpers). Personally, I think the negative energy of stabbing Trump Baby to prevent dissent is a $hitty way of preparing for a match.

Fortuitously, they were down by 3 touchdowns before you knew it.

So let get this straight, Trumpers are celebrating the fact that he had to trial and error several sporting events to finally get a warm public greeting outside of his rallies, and he was only successful when he did it in a traitor trash riddled blood red state? That’s pretty pathetic, period.

And he chose a game were the vast majority of fans are white, who happen to wear red at every game to support their team, and where the student season ticket holders were told that if they got unruly (booed) they risked being banned from future home games.

Bribery is an illegal quid pro quo and is explicitly written as an impeachable offense in the Constitutuon.

Quid pro quo can be perfectly legal so you have to list a crime - bribery.

Trump bribed the president t of Ukraine by withholding aid while asking for a political favor.

How is that not a bribe?

Ukraine was to receive the aid anyway.

Trump added personal conditions to it.

X-Runner wrote:

Bribery is an illegal quid pro quo and is explicitly written as an impeachable offense in the Constitutuon.

Quid pro quo can be perfectly legal so you have to list a crime - bribery.

Trump bribed the president t of Ukraine by withholding aid while asking for a political favor.

How is that not a bribe?

Ukraine was to receive the aid anyway.

Trump added personal conditions to it.

Not a political favor. A personal favor. The job of the president does not cover personal favors, regardless of Barr and Trump's claim of "absolute" immunity.

Personal Favor wrote:

X-Runner wrote:

Bribery is an illegal quid pro quo and is explicitly written as an impeachable offense in the Constitutuon.

Quid pro quo can be perfectly legal so you have to list a crime - bribery.

Trump bribed the president t of Ukraine by withholding aid while asking for a political favor.

How is that not a bribe?

Ukraine was to receive the aid anyway.

Trump added personal conditions to it.

Not a political favor. A personal favor. The job of the president does not cover personal favors, regardless of Barr and Trump's claim of "absolute" immunity.

This is all a political sideshow. Trump is absolutely immune, as is any US President under the current rules and political environment.

A US President could literally break every law in the book, short of murder, and nothing would happen to him. The Presidency basically has a "white collar crime" exception. The DOJ is not changing its policy. As long as the base doesn't care about these sorts of crimes the party of the President will not turn on him. We saw this to some extent with Nixon, until the very end. We saw this with Clinton. We are seeing this with Trump.

The President will be tried and convicted via electoral defeat.

Alan

Racket wrote:

P wrote:

While I agree that Trump is one of the worst human beings on the planet and easily the worst POTUS of all time, your claim here is simply INCORRECT. I personally know more than one physics professor at a top school and more than one mathematician similarly at a top school who support Trump. To say that these people, each of whom have an IQ vastly surpassing your own, are "not smart in any way" is simply demonstrably FALSE.

Pretty tough to argue against Flagpole's point since he'll just arbitrarily expand the definition of "stupid" to be as wide as he needs it to be. The entire thing is borderline tautological under his under premises of the term.

INCORRECT! What you and others seem to never understand is that I already KNOW the complete definition of the words I use. I do not "expand" the definitions of anything, am not doing so here, and will not in the future. I often have to supply the definition of a word to people who clearly need it explained to them.

1) I call BS to the fact that you know their IQs. How is that even possible? They all came up and told you what their IQs are? Who the hell does that? And if you happen to know one person who is so insecure that they do that, how in the world do you know several who did? Complete BS there. How do you know they are telling the truth? How do you know they didn't take an online bogus IQ test that tells you that you have an IQ of 188 or some other some such crap? Finally, if you actually DID know all of their IQs, you do not know mine. You should have accepted you were wrong on this one, brother. Just not believable at all.

2) Ha! BS. You can not ascertain someone's IQ based on posting on a message board. You are really shoveling here.

3) Not a straw man.

4) This comment of yours is completely bogus. You assert that you know several people with IQs higher than mine. That is IMPOSSIBLE for you to know, for you do not know what my IQ is. That's the winning argument on my side right there. Then, when you get to the very unbelievable fact that you claim to know the IQs of several university professors, that's just BS...and not just regular BS...some sort of uber BS.

Dude, fine to disagree with me, but if you are going to try to give some FACTS that support your disagreement, don't give BS stuff like you did there to try to dispute me. That was very weak. Feel free to try again, but you'd better bring it much stronger if you want to have any shot.

There are only two reasons why anyone still supports Trump:

1) JUST stupid.

2) Racist.

There are no other possibilities.

X-Runner wrote:

Bribery is an illegal quid pro quo and is explicitly written as an impeachable offense in the Constitutuon.

Quid pro quo can be perfectly legal so you have to list a crime - bribery.

Trump bribed the president t of Ukraine by withholding aid while asking for a political favor.

How is that not a bribe?

Ukraine was to receive the aid anyway.

Trump added personal conditions to it.

It is a bribe. For sure. He's a criminal.

Here in Arkansas we once had a Guv (Faubus), who closed public schools so blacks couldn’t attend. Said he was misunderstood, not racist at all (just like trumpers are claiming we can’t “understand” them).

It won him a long stretch in office, until even Arkansans were embarrassed by him. After that, he kept running for office & losing until he died. One-trick pony.

From a Trump tweet this morning:

"The call to the Ukrainian President was PERFECT. Read the Transcript! There was NOTHING said that was in any way wrong. Republicans, don’t be led into the fools trap of saying it was not perfect, but is not impeachable. No, it is much stronger than that. NOTHING WAS DONE WRONG!"

Anyone with even minimal critical thinking skills is not going to buy into that. It might impress his base, but I believe it hurts him with independent voters. Wouldn't a better strategy be for him to STFU, let the impeachment run its course and then ultimately be bailed out by the Senate?

Longstanding allegations about Jim Jordan covering up sexual abuse of wrestlers at Ohio State will get yet another airing now that he’s the chief defender of trump. Practice makes perfect, I guess.

Flagpole is the most insufferable person I have ever known. I can not think of anyone even close. He may not win in I.Q., or intuition, or guarantees, or astuteness, or sympathy, or compassion, or alertness, or humor. But he wins by far in insufferability.

For anyone who can’t remember 1999, infidelity was pinned on several of clinton’s accusers, who definitely weren’t immune from prosecution.

Speaking of skeletons in the closet, impeachment has opened the floodgates of gossipy memoirs. People will have far more dirt from these books than anything the Senate will get to decide. It’ll be settled out of court around every water cooler.

Flagpole wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

I believe racist was the alternate description of trumpers. Racists think that concentration camps on the border is just what those people need (at taxpayer expense of course). Racists think that a nazi parade through Charlottesville or Skokie is good clean fun. Racists think that machine guns in the hands of crazy white people keeps everyone else in line. Racists think that an alliance with pasty-faced daddy putin is preferable to constitutional rights for black & hispanic voters.

You know, with you posting soon after me at almost 3:30 a.m. on the East Coast, some here will be convinced that you and I are the same person. Just saying.

Not a chance, Flagpole. No one thinks that you and Jesse are the same person. You are a dullard. A neanderthal. The most annoying person here who is without reason the most arrogant as well. I will not even call you a dullard. That is unfair to dullards. While Jesse can be annoying at times, some of his posts have humor. They bring something to the table here. What do your posts bring beyond self-adulation, lies, mischaracterizations and much anger? The answer - nothing.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Facts about the “whistleblower”

Name is Eric Ciaramella

Works for CIA

Served under Obama

Fired for leaking in 2017

Registered Democrat

Coached by Adam Schiff

His lawyer (Mark Zaid) brags about starting a coup to impeach Trump

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

This is a witch hunt

KAG2020

You should be banned from LRC.

You have endangered this man's life. What you did was inexcusable.