Robert Young fakes run across America

More important than proving that Roberto cheated is finding out the location of the RV. I would like to take some photos with it to show future generations. Perhaps it can be donated as an exhibit into the Lets Run hall of shame. Right next to Rossi's Boston a Marathon jacket.

google are cheaters too wrote:

Ji my B wrote:

The Guardian article about RY cheating is now the sixth result on a google search for "Robert Young". Nice.

Google adapts the results to your profile, cookies, location, etc.

I get it as #4.

I used incognito mode to test - that should remove all personalisation - right?

JamesWhite wrote:

The Dustbin is working hard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_HP_Young&action=history

Aw man I love Wikipedia

Max Rob wrote:

JamesWhite wrote:

The Dustbin is working hard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_HP_Young&action=history

Aw man I love Wikipedia

I love you too.

Basement Dweller wrote:

Observer of various things... wrote:

Regarding the sub 7 minute mile paces before the boots hit the ground, what is the general opinion of what happened?

A. RY knew he could always take rest rides whenever he feels like it through the evening so he therefore made a point of running some quicker paces here and there. In other words he wasn't running a true transcon that required energy conservation so why the hell not throw some speed in there too?

B. The dopes driving the RV (with RY riding in it) were just too stupid to have it run slow enough due to a lead foot. They didn't bank on the public scrutiny of the paces of the tracker.

B Nobody would be stupid enough to watch him for 5 days

Then he met the Geezers.

Yep, that is exactly what happened. Never underestimate the stubbornness of real ultrarunners.

We need some more reviews on RY's book on Amazon UK:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marathon-Man-One-Year-Marathons/dp/1471152871/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Sara76 wrote:

I have been n contact wit SKINS. They do seem genuine in wanting to review some of his Claims. Specifically they have asked for any and all references to where he claimed to be a professional cyclist. Can everyone please send me all references that you have? I did not screenshot the Wikipedia page before it was edited, showing his claim as a professional cyclist. I also remember seeing someone had posted a screenshot of a page of ?his book? where it claimed that. If you can link or send it to me, I would appreciate it.

There are still a ton of images that *somebody* uploaded to the wikimedia commons:

. I believe that this user, 'milramteam', was the same one caught trying to make fishy RY related edits to other wikipedia pages.

RV loving hillbilly. wrote:

More important than proving that Roberto cheated is finding out the location of the RV. I would like to take some photos with it to show future generations. Perhaps it can be donated as an exhibit into the Lets Run hall of shame. Right next to Rossi's Boston a Marathon jacket.

Looks like they got the Class C 27-30' RV from roadbearrv.

They probably rented it for 6-8 weeks one-way from Los Angeles to New York.

East of Denver, this rental company has locations only in New York and Orlando. So they probably will have to drive it to New York. Unlikely, they would go west to Denver or south to Orlando. But who knows.

RY's very first marathon of the transcon he ran mostly straight through in about 3:37. He started around 7 minute mile pace with a brief 4 mile dip down to 6:30ish, but he was fading hard by the end, taking a 10 minute break after 18 miles and then struggling at 9:30/mi over the last 4 miles. Right in line with every marathon he's got race times for. From that point until the start of day 4, he never runs that fast for that long again. There are 2 or 3 anomalous single mile spots in 6:30 - 7:00 pace, like he did for the Geezers, but nothing sustained at all.

Then in the middle of nowhere AZ on the night that starts the 4th day of running, he speeds up spontaneously. Right out of the gate that night they do a 12 mile stretch at around 6:50/mi the whole way. Then 1 hour at barely even a walk; if he's walking there's a lot of start and stop for 2 miles in 1 hour. Then a weird but classic RY section of 5:45 for 2mi, 12:00 for 1, 5:35 for 2mi, 15:00 for 0.75 (overall like a 7:37 pace for 6mi that he saved on the GPS watch). Followed by a 10 minute pause, then an 8.1mi in 6:08/mi section. They practically come to a dead stop right out of that 8.1mi run and take a 3 hour break, no stretching it out cooldown jog or anything. 3 hours later they pick it up immediately and he runs a 6:18/mi pace for 2.87mi with zero warmup and again zero cooldown, then a 15 minute break which is then followed by a reasonable 10-15 minute mile pace for the next 3.8 miles..... and it is only THEN that they get stuck in the sand.

Another interesting bit... that first 3 day section where he never breaks 7 minutes a mile after a marathon... it is mainly downhill running out of Cali. That last part I described where he supposedly runs 35 miles at mostly 6 - 6:50/mi pace is basically all uphill into AZ.

RY would've had to cover most of the first 30 miles on foot. Most all of that is on the Santa Ana River Bike Trail, except for the first few miles to get to that trail. There is no road that goes parallel to that bike trail for extended stretches.

He probably wore himself out the first day.

If this has been mentioned already, I apologize. Just wanted to make sure these posts were captured.

http://imgur.com/a/wQhUa

Dunno if this has been done yet, but the Fejes pace frequency chart had me wondering what RY's looks like. This is the frequency of paces based on the tracker data from 5/13 to 6/9*. Sorry, I haven't incorporated the updated data for post-Kansas. Life has been busy.

http://i.imgur.com/CSb0dHK.png

* Since we don't actually have mile-by-mile splits, I just took the average pace for a section (such as 7:24 for 1.35) and binned them into the 7:xx bin and added the mileage. For example, for a 1.8 mile section at 7:35 pace and a 2.2 section at 7:00 pace would be 4.0 miles in the 7:xx bin.

I dont know about you runners but I have always found it easier to run faster uphill than downhill.

team1.kml wrote:

Dunno if this has been done yet, but the Fejes pace frequency chart had me wondering what RY's looks like. This is the frequency of paces based on the tracker data from 5/13 to 6/9*. Sorry, I haven't incorporated the updated data for post-Kansas. Life has been busy.

http://i.imgur.com/CSb0dHK.png

* Since we don't actually have mile-by-mile splits, I just took the average pace for a section (such as 7:24 for 1.35) and binned them into the 7:xx bin and added the mileage. For example, for a 1.8 mile section at 7:35 pace and a 2.2 section at 7:00 pace would be 4.0 miles in the 7:xx bin.

for context, compare to

You math nerds with your fancy numbers and calculations will convince no one. Most people are math illiterate and when you speak math and they don't understand, they will think you are insulting them. Stick with simple explanations and the juicier parts of the whole scam.

The best part of ALL of this, is that RY and/or his team in constantly looking at this thread and culling their Facebook comments and changing blog posts, deleting data, changing Wikipedia.

They're spending all of this time "silent" but working very hard on this, and reading all of it, yet "still working on" releasing the data. Like they have to repair this lumbering mechanical machine which then spits out GPS data and they just don't have the tools or parts to do so right now, they're on order.

Either that or they're just hand-editing every GPS point to match their story, which given the time frame, I certainly wouldn't put it past them!

ThunderThighs wrote:

You math nerds with your fancy numbers and calculations will convince no one. Most people are math illiterate and when you speak math and they don't understand, they will think you are insulting them. Stick with simple explanations and the juicier parts of the whole scam.

See Rob.

See Rob run.

See Rob run 420 marathons.

See Rob never run a single verifiable marathon under 7:00/mile pace.

See Rob run out west.

See Rob run 600 miles under 7:00/mile pace.

See Rob ride in the R.V.