Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are now going to bring full retribution. That has started tonight. Patel’s Enemy list will be getting arrested and harassed. Some republicans like Bill Barr are on the list. He has been very quiet lately.
This is going to make Musks actions seem tame. We are entering very dark times for this country.
Fearmongering, eh? Who invited Debbie Downer to the party? You know, alcoholism is a very serious disease. If you can't get help at charter, please get help somewhere.
My bad. I made the dumb mistake of accepting what a Trumper claimed at face value. No criminal charges by Bondi tonight. She used “charges” to appear tough.
Just another frivolous civil suit that Trump will lose.
First of all, I am not liberal. If you had thoroughly read this discussion thread, you would already know that.
On numerous occasions, I have tried to encourage people from both sides to maintain a much more civil discourse. Typically, that doesn't work, but it's not for lack of effort.
The bottom line is that the antagonistic, passionately self-righteous posts are going to change anyone's mind. If that's what you do for fun, so be it. It would be nice to have a mature discussion with people who are genuinely knowledgeable from both sides, but it is rather obvious that you don't intend to contribute to something of that nature.
...you support open borders, keeping illegal aliens in our country, pro abortion, support gender mutilation surgery for kids, support the Green New Deal, etc.
Thank you for the proof-of-concept related to my last sentence.
That's because you libs think you are always right....but you lost bigly and can cry harder---> thank Trollminator the wuss for that as he repeatedly used that on anyone who complained about Biden, the worst of the worst....so you can have it back.
If you show me a post where you told Trollminator to back off, yeah, then I will. But you can't. So which wussy Dumocrat on this thread is Trollminator as we know he couldn't stay away.
BUT...Trump made him abandon his handle, so Trump won.
Bring on the down votes sissy boys, I love it!!!!!!
First of all, I am not liberal. If you had thoroughly read this discussion thread, you would already know that.
On numerous occasions, I have tried to encourage people from both sides to maintain a much more civil discourse. Typically, that doesn't work, but it's not for lack of effort.
The bottom line is that the antagonistic, passionately self-righteous posts are going to change anyone's mind. If that's what you do for fun, so be it. It would be nice to have a mature discussion with people who are genuinely knowledgeable from both sides, but it is rather obvious that you don't intend to contribute to something of that nature.
LOL tell your liberal friends. W
We've tried to have a civil conversation, many times but unfortunately your buddies 'believe" they are always right....so no, there won't a civil conversation with their attitude.
I was called name after name in the weeks before the election, but now they are pissed and so are you--->aka suck it as I took it for a long time and I warned them over and over last Winter that Trump would win. NOW it's my turn.
They post everything anti-Trump, EVERYTHING. Harris was the worst and did zilch, nothing. Look what BIden did on day one with HIS executive orders. They don't want to talk about the riots for months and months, just one day. Well, that's major hypocrisy, so yes they won't answer me and I won't answer them, I just give it right back.
Igloi, Sally and Ghost post some very good stuff, but the libs denounce it all, every single post. So guess what spanky, they get it right back.
If that bothers you and you can't take the heat, stay off the thread or move. I don't post every day, do you? Agip does, talk to him about his strange obsession and insecurity. Yes, I laugh at it and will continue to do so.
First of all, I am not liberal. If you had thoroughly read this discussion thread, you would already know that.
On numerous occasions, I have tried to encourage people from both sides to maintain a much more civil discourse. Typically, that doesn't work, but it's not for lack of effort.
The bottom line is that the antagonistic, passionately self-righteous posts are going to change anyone's mind. If that's what you do for fun, so be it. It would be nice to have a mature discussion with people who are genuinely knowledgeable from both sides, but it is rather obvious that you don't intend to contribute to something of that nature.
LOL tell your liberal friends. W
We've tried to have a civil conversation, many times but unfortunately your buddies 'believe" they are always right....so no, there won't a civil conversation with their attitude.
I was called name after name in the weeks before the election, but now they are pissed and so are you--->aka suck it as I took it for a long time and I warned them over and over last Winter that Trump would win. NOW it's my turn.
They post everything anti-Trump, EVERYTHING. Harris was the worst and did zilch, nothing. Look what BIden did on day one with HIS executive orders. They don't want to talk about the riots for months and months, just one day. Well, that's major hypocrisy, so yes they won't answer me and I won't answer them, I just give it right back.
Igloi, Sally and Ghost post some very good stuff, but the libs denounce it all, every single post. So guess what spanky, they get it right back.
If that bothers you and you can't take the heat, stay off the thread or move. I don't post every day, do you? Agip does, talk to him about his strange obsession and insecurity. Yes, I laugh at it and will continue to do so.
...so no, there won't a civil conversation with their attitude.
I was called name after name...
Not by me, but please don't let that stop you. I'm sorry, but what you posted says a lot more about you than anyone else.
I certainly can't stop you from consistently authoring things that are antagonistic and petulant. It is a shame to see other people lower themselves down to the same level, but I'll pass. Life is too short to be "right results."
Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are now going to bring full retribution. That has started tonight. Patel’s Enemy list will be getting arrested and harassed. Some republicans like Bill Barr are on the list. He has been very quiet lately.
This is going to make Musks actions seem tame. We are entering very dark times for this country.
That’s why historically political parties didn’t prosecute their opponents because they realized that once their opponents got into power, they would do it to them. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.
I hope Trump gives it back 10x what they gave him.
And if you’re gonna play make believe that the Lawfare against Trump wasn’t political:
“If his name was not Donald Trump and if he wasn’t running for president … I’m the former AG of in New York, [and] I’m telling you that case would’ve never been brought.”
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Or, someone with such a bot-like programmed, brainwashed, sheepish point of view clearly looks like, a troll. You do realize how many democratic bots there are on the internet, don't ya? USAID actually funds some of those programs, did ya know that?
I did not, but I am always willing to learn. Source, please?
There are a ton of instances the gov. has engineered particular outcomes utilizing social media with fake accounts and A.I. Here are a few:
Domestic Use of Social Media Bots: A report by the Brennan Center for Justice highlights the risks associated with government use of artificial intelligence (AI) in social media monitoring, emphasizing the need for standards to protect individual rights. brennancenter.org International Use of Social Media Bots: The U.S. military has utilized social media platforms for psychological operations (PSYOP) to influence foreign audiences. These operations have included the creation of fake accounts to disseminate information and counter adversary narratives. A report from Futurism discusses the Pentagon's response to the removal of its PSYOP bots by social media platforms. futurism.com Regulatory and Ethical Considerations: The use of bots for political purposes raises significant ethical and legal questions. A study by the Center for Naval Analyses examines the implications of social media bots for U.S. special operations forces, discussing the potential for disinformation and the challenges in regulating such activities. cna.org
Recent Developments in AI and Social Media Influence theatlantic.com AI Could Still Wreck the Presidential Election 141 days ago reuters.com Pastors and secret codes: US election officials wage low-tech battle against AI robocalls 104 days ago wired.com DOJ: Russia Aimed Propaganda at Gamers, Minorities to Swing 2024 Election 160 days ago
Here's an interesting story about how the U.S. secretly created a fake twitter account in Cuba to stir unrest:
In 2010, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) initiated a covert project to develop a social media platform in Cuba, known as ZunZuneo, often referred to as "Cuban Twitter." The objective was to provide an alternative communication channel for Cubans, aiming to foster political change by enabling users to share information and organize activities without government oversight.
The platform operated by sending text messages to users, offering a service similar to Twitter, but without the need for internet access, which was limited in Cuba at the time. The project was designed to be discreet, with USAID concealing its involvement to prevent the Cuban government from detecting the source of the platform.
The existence of ZunZuneo became public in 2014, leading to significant controversy. Critics argued that the initiative was a form of covert political interference, raising ethical and legal concerns about the use of social media for foreign policy objectives. The project was eventually discontinued, and the U.S. government faced scrutiny over its methods and the potential implications for U.S.-Cuba relations. For a detailed account of the ZunZuneo project, you can refer to the Associated Press article:
Some U.S.-funded media outlets that report on Cuba are seeking alternative sources of financing while the Trump administration pursues a plan to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), leaving their f...
Some of the articles didn't quite link up correctly, but let me know if you want direct links to those stories.
Just a few reasons why USAID needs to be looked at. I don't think people realize just what exactly they do. They aren't an international disaster relief program, that's for sure.
Some of the articles didn't quite link up correctly, but let me know if you want direct links to those stories.
Just a few reasons why USAID needs to be looked at. I don't think people realize just what exactly they do. They aren't an international disaster relief program, that's for sure.
I appreciate the thorough reply with some very good references. I will dig into it even more when time allows, but my preliminary assessment would tend to agree with you: USAID definitely warrants quite a bit of scrutiny.
That being said, those interesting references don't really address my previous point. Although I admire your passion for the topic and you are clearly much more knowledgeable than the average person, we can probably do a bit better than dropping the "troll" label quite so often simply because someone disagrees with us. Like many other terms, when it becomes overused it loses impact.
Unfortunately, that is one of the most prominent features of this discussion thread.
We have seen many of the more level-headed, articulate contributors (from both sides of the fence) gradually fade away because they grew weary of the proliferation of trolling and antagonistic posts that add almost nothing to the discussion.
Notably, you are one of the people who has been leading that charge... but you already knew that.
Yes. When someone make makes up outrageous conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence, I will respond to them with derision. Such acts should result in humiliation for that poster.
Here are a few more examples of using media to mislead people to cause a regime change:
Musk buys Twitter, removes fact checking, amplifies right wing posts, especially conspiracy theories. Often posts himself with false or misleading information. Factual posts about Trump removed if negative.
FOX News lies about 2020 election. Lawsuit discovery shows they knew it was lies and hosts did not believe it. After losing lawsuit for $780M, they continue to repeat lies, but without company names.
Trump & National Enquirer "catch and kill" for negative stories about Trump.
These techniques are very effective. They people who consume this media repeat the lies as fact without checking any other sources.
That's because you libs think you are always right....but you lost bigly and can cry harder---> thank Trollminator the wuss for that as he repeatedly used that on anyone who complained about Biden, the worst of the worst....so you can have it back.
If you show me a post where you told Trollminator to back off, yeah, then I will. But you can't. So which wussy Dumocrat on this thread is Trollminator as we know he couldn't stay away.
BUT...Trump made him abandon his handle, so Trump won.
Bring on the down votes sissy boys, I love it!!!!!!
First of all, I am not liberal. If you had thoroughly read this discussion thread, you would already know that.
On numerous occasions, I have tried to encourage people from both sides to maintain a much more civil discourse. Typically, that doesn't work, but it's not for lack of effort.
The bottom line is that the antagonistic, passionately self-righteous posts are going to change anyone's mind. If that's what you do for fun, so be it. It would be nice to have a mature discussion with people who are genuinely knowledgeable from both sides, but it is rather obvious that you don't intend to contribute to something of that nature.
You seem soft. Maybe this isn’t the place for you.
Unfortunately, that is one of the most prominent features of this discussion thread.
We have seen many of the more level-headed, articulate contributors (from both sides of the fence) gradually fade away because they grew weary of the proliferation of trolling and antagonistic posts that add almost nothing to the discussion.
Notably, you are one of the people who has been leading that charge... but you already knew that.
Yes. When someone make makes up outrageous conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence, I will respond to them with derision. Such acts should result in humiliation for that poster.
Although that isn't the way that I would typically respond, I can understand the frustration that would come along with it from your point of view.
That being said, do you pass along that same derision when you hear "outrageous conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence" from either side?
Some of the articles didn't quite link up correctly, but let me know if you want direct links to those stories.
Just a few reasons why USAID needs to be looked at. I don't think people realize just what exactly they do. They aren't an international disaster relief program, that's for sure.
I appreciate the thorough reply with some very good references. I will dig into it even more when time allows, but my preliminary assessment would tend to agree with you: USAID definitely warrants quite a bit of scrutiny.
That being said, those interesting references don't really address my previous point. Although I admire your passion for the topic and you are clearly much more knowledgeable than the average person, we can probably do a bit better than dropping the "troll" label quite so often simply because someone disagrees with us. Like many other terms, when it becomes overused it loses impact.
Fair enough. If you're interested in seeing some of this first hand, please go on to "threads" and scroll. Half the accounts are obviously bots, spreading basic propaganda over and over again. So, logically when I see something that looks like it came straight from MSNBC, I question its authenticity. The reality is, there is so much the average person has no clue about that goes well beyond the "MAGAts" vs. "Libt*rd" surface level division behind the curtains of reality.
Further, with the name of your account, it gives off an aggressive stance against the right, putting you in a particular camp. You may readdress this at some point.
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Fearmongering, eh? Who invited Debbie Downer to the party? You know, alcoholism is a very serious disease. If you can't get help at charter, please get help somewhere.
My bad. I made the dumb mistake of accepting what a Trumper claimed at face value. No criminal charges by Bondi tonight. She used “charges” to appear tough.
Just another frivolous civil suit that Trump will lose.
Carry on
It’s just the start. Those who went after Trump thought they were untouchable and as a result were very sloppy.
Look at Fani in Georgia. When she got the contract, the first thing she did was hire her unqualified boyfriend, padded his bill and then proceeded to go on monthly expensive vacations.
Trump’s Lawyer in the Merchan case is now the #2 at the DOJ. You think he’s there for nothing?
Here are a few more examples of using media to mislead people to cause a regime change:
Musk buys Twitter, removes fact checking, amplifies right wing posts, especially conspiracy theories. Often posts himself with false or misleading information. Factual posts about Trump removed if negative.
FOX News lies about 2020 election. Lawsuit discovery shows they knew it was lies and hosts did not believe it. After losing lawsuit for $780M, they continue to repeat lies, but without company names.
Trump & National Enquirer "catch and kill" for negative stories about Trump.
These techniques are very effective. They people who consume this media repeat the lies as fact without checking any other sources.
A drop in the bucket compared to the C.I.A. & USAID's budget.
First of all, I am not liberal. If you had thoroughly read this discussion thread, you would already know that.
On numerous occasions, I have tried to encourage people from both sides to maintain a much more civil discourse. Typically, that doesn't work, but it's not for lack of effort.
The bottom line is that the antagonistic, passionately self-righteous posts are going to change anyone's mind. If that's what you do for fun, so be it. It would be nice to have a mature discussion with people who are genuinely knowledgeable from both sides, but it is rather obvious that you don't intend to contribute to something of that nature.
You seem soft. Maybe this isn’t the place for you.
Back to your safe space.
Just when I thought that we were actually having a level-headed discussion with JohnSu2. That didn't last very long.
You are more have a "glass half empty" type of guy, huh? Because I don't go on unhinged rants and constantly label people with disparaging terms, I must be soft.
Spoiler alert: using that criterion, every President of the United States we have seen in our lifetime other than Trump has been "soft," also. Contrary to what he would lead you to believe, it is possible to disagree with someone and be the catalyst for change without being antagonistic.
You seem soft. Maybe this isn’t the place for you.
Back to your safe space.
Just when I thought that we were actually having a level-headed discussion with JohnSu2. That didn't last very long.
You are more have a "glass half empty" type of guy, huh? Because I don't go on unhinged rants and constantly label people with disparaging terms, I must be soft.
Spoiler alert: using that criterion, every President of the United States we have seen in our lifetime other than Trump has been "soft," also. Contrary to what he would lead you to believe, it is possible to disagree with someone and be the catalyst for change without being antagonistic.
I’m definitely a full glass guy - especially since Trump has this country going in the right direction after four years of ineptitude.
I get it. I know you libs are having a hard time coping with Trump’s win and then his successes this far. You wanted him to fail at every turn (party over country) and it upsets you that he has such a successful presidency. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Everyone win benefit from a Trump presidency- even you. 👍
