Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
You really got shortchanged on your STEM degree, Fat Hurts. Science is NEVER settled. Consensus is not science. Science is about observing data and phenomena, making hypotheses, trying to determine if those hypotheses are indeed true or not true, and ultimately determining Theories - and then you go about trying to shoot down those Theories - and seeing if they are truly correct. Science is NEVER settled. Science is ongoing. No consensus in science. How much did you pay for your Stem degree?
Sally takes a physics exam....
Question: Explain why the effective acceleration of gravity is different on the equator versus the north pole.
Sally's answer: There is no scientific consensus that gravity exists.
Sally's grade: F
To suggest "consensus" exist in science - Fat Hurts gets an F-minus-minus
What is the role of consensus in science? The answer is simple: It has no role whatsoever. ‘Consensus’ is neither part of the scientific method nor a goal in science. It is a tool used by non-scientists searching for trends in the thinking among scientists. When used as a tool for understanding, it can be harmless. But when it's used to manufacture a false climate of authority, it can be very harmful indeed.
The myth that science seeks to achieve a consensus has been debunked many times. But activists continually revive it. One article at Ars Technica, a computer news site that sometimes talks about global warming, is typical. They point out that we have agreed-upon criteria for determining statistical significance. Once a finding has accumulated enough supporting evidence, they claim, it is considered ‘settled,’ and need not be re-investigated.
This is not true. No scientist uses the phrase ‘settled science’ to support their conclusions. If they did, their papers would be ignored and they'd be laughed off the podium. Consensus implies cognitive closure, which is sternly resisted in science.
Yes, we use standards and conventions, just like ordinary mortal humans. When we write in English, we use the same rules of syntax. We use the same type of mathematics, the same counting system, and the same definition of the gram. In a given country, we all agree to drive on the same side of the road. One might reasonably call this a consensus. But it would be sloppy reasoning—a form of equivocation—to imply that any of this is the method by which science builds knowledge. Either the activists are unfamiliar with how science works, or they are making a basic error of logic, or they are being disingenuous.
Consensus is a social phenomenon, not a part of science. Scientists are human, and they're susceptible to human weakness, and the urge to conform is one of them. When they succumb to it, science suffers.
One example is the question of whether HIV is the causal agent of AIDS. As a practical matter, if introducing a virus into a patient causes the disease and eliminating the virus cures it, that is good enough for most scientists to consider the subject no longer worth studying. Science tries to solve problems, and if the problem goes away, scientists turn to something else that is more pressing and interesting.
A better example is stomach ulcers. Most scientists considered ulcers to be uninteresting. They thought, as many people did, that they were caused by stress. That idea turned out to be incorrect, and the two people who discovered it received a well-deserved Nobel prize.
But this most emphatically does not mean that consensus played any role, either before the discovery or afterward. Even if the opinions of physicians and scientists had been measured, and some universally agreed threshold, say 50% + 1, or maybe 95%, of their opinions had been reached, it still would have no bearing on whether the stress theory was true. If consensus was a meaningful criterion, Robin Warren and Barry Marshall would not have investigated the bacteria hypothesis, and they might never have discovered the true cause.
No scientist worth his or her salt gives a flying frak about what everyone else thinks. (Funding agencies unfortunately do, and that's a longstanding problem).
So what about the claim made by the climate activists, that a “97% consensus” exists among climate scientists? Simply speaking, this is a manufactured number, created by another well-known problem: publication bias. It is very difficult to get a paper published that shows a negative result. Very often, scientists don't even try, because it's a waste of effort.
(It's also manufactured in another way. As someone just pointed out to me, even my skeptical article pointing out the scientific flaws in AGW would be included among the 97%.)
The concept of consensus does not come from scientists, but from news reporters and others who are searching for a shared viewpoint so they can write a story and appear credible. They want to make a generalization, so they say that a ‘consensus’ exists. This might sound like a reasonable thing for a non-scientist to do. But the activists are trying to change public opinion by manufacturing a consensus that suits their political goals.
I have been a professional research scientist for over 30 years, first at a large, well-known place in Bethesda, Maryland, which has thousands of scientists, and later at a nonprofit research institute. I have read literally thousands of research papers and published nearly a hundred in peer-reviewed journals. I have listened to hundreds of seminars and had countless conversations with fellow scientists. Not once did any of them ever use the term ‘consensus’ to promote the accuracy of their results.
Do scientists ever use the term? Of course. A grep of the 2106 scientific reprints currently on my computer yields 205 instances of the term consensus. Almost all of them are molecular biology papers, where someone is comparing multiple DNA or protein sequences and obtaining a ‘consensus sequence.’ This simply means that most of the sequences contain a particular base or amino acid at a particular location. I have never heard it used by any scientist to mean that we should accept a conclusion based on consensus.
Consensus, as used that way, is an appeal to authority. It is intended to silence skeptics. But as much as some would like it to be true, authority has no place in science. In fact, I will go out on a limb and say that using the term around real scientists marks one as an outsider or neophyte. In general, only non-scientists use this term.
Climate activists, though, use it all the time. Their goal is to stampede people into accepting a massive transformation of society. It may or may not be necessary to do this. But no one should ignore the cost. If we do as the climate activists insist we must, we need to accept the fact that there is a high probability that it will leave our civilization in ruins.
Here's another example. It is sometimes claimed that there was a ‘consensus’ among biologists that cholesterol and salt are harmful and should be greatly reduced in our diet. To the public, the US government's about-face on cholesterol came as a shock, with some asking why scientists did not question the guidelines earlier.
