The Obama lesson is ground-game/get-the-vote-out. Hillary lesson is, at least have an exciting VP who has these qualities, plus compromise with progressives. Kaine, nice guy, couldn’t pick him out of a police lineup.
We already tried “getting behind the candidate.” Result: all the endorsements but too few of the votes.
Roger Stone trial! Plus impeachment! I have longed for this day.
Stone (a more obvious version of ghost) didn’t realize that, by not copping a plea, he would get a trial in the middle of impeachment.
Sux 2 B A tr8r!
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
well this is encouraging.
This poll finds that the Ds head to head performance has been steadily growing against Trump.
but balance this against those awful polls from the NYT in battle states that show no improvement from 2016.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1191716600837214209?s=20I think it's better to seem to be behind going into the race... complacency is not a friend
you'd rather be trump right now? 11 points back in the polls? That's not a good result in any fashion.
If Trump was leading in these polls he'd be bragging about it.
Instead he says they are fake or wrong.
Now to his credit, he did trail in all of the polls right up to the day he was elected.
X-Runner wrote:
If Trump was leading in these polls he'd be bragging about it.
Instead he says they are fake or wrong.
Now to his credit, he did trail in all of the polls right up to the day he was elected.
Clinton was up 3% over Trump in the final polls. Which is within the margin of error. The current 10 points is not within the margin of error and shows an actual large lead for the Ds. Although if you add the MOE to the built in advantage Rs have in the electoral college, it gets closer.
agip wrote:
X-Runner wrote:
If Trump was leading in these polls he'd be bragging about it.
Instead he says they are fake or wrong.
Now to his credit, he did trail in all of the polls right up to the day he was elected.
Clinton was up 3% over Trump in the final polls. Which is within the margin of error. The current 10 points is not within the margin of error and shows an actual large lead for the Ds. Although if you add the MOE to the built in advantage Rs have in the electoral college, it gets closer.
and of course Clinton was up 3% in the polls and finished around 3% up in the popular vote. The polls were actually good in 2016 on a national level. No margin of error allowance needed.
but clearly the polls missed MI WI PA. On a state level they weren't so good.
Agree, trump was close in 2016, plus hard to factor russia/trolls/comey, all at the last minute.
No polls really factor in voter suppression, either. Remember the recount by Jill Stein? Pay all this money & you’ll get a recount...NOT!
Just like Florida in 2000. No poll would have predicted stopping the count.
My feeling is that Trump really has no chance at winning again.
So the Democratic candidate's electability doesn't matter.
Impeachment: going public will make ALL evidence public! Even if it’s taxes, grand jury, top-secret, etc. Whoever flips first gets the best deal.
Parnas, Flynn, Pence, Stooge-liani, Stone: game over.
X-Runner wrote:
My feeling is that Trump really has no chance at winning again.
So the Democratic candidate's electability doesn't matter.
This is correct. I am still predicting he will be removed from office before his term is over, but we will see.
Here's one thing I have already been proven right about...Trump will NOT win in 2020 unless cheating occurs. He has already cheated...FELONY campaign finance violation at a minimum and likely bribery and extortion too to get a foreign power to dig up dirt on his political rival. Even if Biden doesn't win the nomination at this point, he was the clear front runner at that time, and this negative press Biden has unfairly gotten has affected the election...puts him and Democrats in general in a bad light that for sure WILL keep some voters on the Trump side as they erroneously believe there is any equivalence here.
Now, I still don't think he will win in 2020 if he is allowed to run, but cheating upsets the normal balance which is why it is not allowed.
Mueller is still coming.
The clown is done.
I have given this opportunity before, and I do so again today.
Any of you stupid Trumpers want to acknowledge that Trump IS going to be impeached? Several of you have said the House will NOT impeach him. As I have said before, this goes against your normal narrative of Democrats just being against him and that they will do anything they can to damage him. As the power is with the Democrats, how can you possibly believe they won't impeach him?
Trump will be impeached FOR SURE. I will give a small I Told You So when it happens. The big one is coming later.
X-Runner wrote:
My feeling is that Trump really has no chance at winning again.
So the Democratic candidate's electability doesn't matter.
Prepare to be massively disappointed.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/dont-think-trump-can-win-in-2020-youre-deluding-yourself/#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
Oh, and by the way, if any of you Trumpers DO change your mind now and say he will be impeached, you are still counted as wrong because you said so defiantly for so long that he would not be. I'm just giving you the opportunity now to admit that you were wrong...you'll still be wrong. I'll be sure to point it out when he is impeached. I won't use specific user names though because that's not how I roll...we all know who you are.
Flagpole wrote:
I have given this opportunity before, and I do so again today.
Any of you stupid Trumpers want to acknowledge that Trump IS going to be impeached? Several of you have said the House will NOT impeach him. As I have said before, this goes against your normal narrative of Democrats just being against him and that they will do anything they can to damage him. As the power is with the Democrats, how can you possibly believe they won't impeach him?
Trump will be impeached FOR SURE. I will give a small I Told You So when it happens. The big one is coming later.
The House has the numbers to impeach but the longer this drags out the more likely there will be no impeachment and even if it did occur the Senate will NEVER get the 67 votes to convict. Botox Pelosi promised a bipartisan vote and it's not gonna happen.
Trump will be reelected
Liberal hysteria and despair will continue for another 5+ years
You will flop as usual.
#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
Flagpole wrote:
Oh, and by the way, if any of you Trumpers DO change your mind now and say he will be impeached, you are still counted as wrong because you said so defiantly for so long that he would not be. I'm just giving you the opportunity now to admit that you were wrong...you'll still be wrong. I'll be sure to point it out when he is impeached. I won't use specific user names though because that's not how I roll...we all know who you are.
Ohio is Trump country!!!!
Time for you to vacate, democrat piece of trash,
agip wrote:
Biden blowing out his lead again - back up to 8.5% over Warren as she falls back and Biden keeps his fan.
I really think people don't want a massive activist president. Biden represents calm and experience.
Biden/Harris would be a dream ticket. Wins everyone but the bernie bros. And even some of them would be excited about a female/black/multi-racial VP. Even if she is a cop.
They should have Trump debate Harris. That would be a scream. A prosecutor debating Trump and not letting him off the hook with his bs.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have given this opportunity before, and I do so again today.
Any of you stupid Trumpers want to acknowledge that Trump IS going to be impeached? Several of you have said the House will NOT impeach him. As I have said before, this goes against your normal narrative of Democrats just being against him and that they will do anything they can to damage him. As the power is with the Democrats, how can you possibly believe they won't impeach him?
Trump will be impeached FOR SURE. I will give a small I Told You So when it happens. The big one is coming later.
The House has the numbers to impeach but the longer this drags out the more likely there will be no impeachment and even if it did occur the Senate will NEVER get the 67 votes to convict.
Ok, so we have one Trumper who has admitted to being wrong which also means admitting that I am RIGHT. How is this Trumper admitting to being wrong? This one in particular has said unequivocally that Democrats in the House would not impeach Trump...that they were afraid to do so. Now, a BIG step back from that nonsense. Anyone else want to take a bite of reality?
Excuse me Mr. President? wrote:
agip wrote:
Biden blowing out his lead again - back up to 8.5% over Warren as she falls back and Biden keeps his fan.
I really think people don't want a massive activist president. Biden represents calm and experience.
Biden/Harris would be a dream ticket. Wins everyone but the bernie bros. And even some of them would be excited about a female/black/multi-racial VP. Even if she is a cop.
They should have Trump debate Harris. That would be a scream. A prosecutor debating Trump and not letting him off the hook with his bs.
LOL!!! Quid Pro Joe can't even tell what state he's in. Harris is an also-ran. She's toast. Tulsi destroyed her weeks ago.
Ciro wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Rigged gets owned.
You started the game, I just relied with a current example of an horrific attack from a bigot. I don’t give a sh!t if you continue with what you perceive as a game, I’m against that type of violence from all sides.
Not that it matters that much but you might want read up about domestic extremist violence before proclaiming some sort of victory.
“In the last 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders.”
https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-risinghttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/27/530351468/2-dead-1-injured-after-stabbing-in-portland-ore