Robert Young fakes run across America

PR specialist wrote:

Reached out to two friends at ESPN. One is a reporter and one is a producer. Both said they would look into if a crew was sent to cover a TransCon attempt. Sorry that I missed this, but where and when - allegedly - did the ESPN crew shadow? It would likely be a three man, local freelance crew of a producer, camera and sound guy (no talent/reporter) hired to get B roll. They'd then package it back in Bristol or LA and air it as a human interest bit. Maybe if he'd "set the record" they would sit down with him in NYC to splice in or something. But date/location would help them in checking on if a crew was actually dispatched.

Sorry. I should have kept reading. Will send the info from Asher to them. The description sounds somewhat legit, but I'll see what details I can get.

That's OK, understandable on this thread, plenty of us been there.

1 2 3 green wrote:

pre 6/10 is tracker data at 12min intervals from the team1.kml tab

post 6/11 is tracker data at 3min intervals from the "data 6/11 to end tab"

Yes we can assume the tracker was in the RV from day 1. Overall they say they were rarely separated from rob. Still its true we may be seeing some sections where the RV was was catching up.The long sections of sub 7 pace pre kansas kinda negates that though.

Plus the shorter 3min intervals gives rob credit for short spurts of pace (or rv catchup) that the 12min intervals don't. If I normalized the post 6/11 data into 12min intervals it would wash out most of that sub 7 pace.

Also, I excluded anything faster than 5min pace, as that would most likely be the RV.

Ok. That makes sense. Maybe we could make an additional column next to Column F that is the average of the 3 minutes before, during, and after each cell so then Column G would display 9 minute segments more comparable to the pre June 10 data. That might smooth out some of the RV surges.

Has this been seen yet? His splits from his Oct 4 2015 MBNA Chester marathon is full of holes, literally:

http://tdleventservices.co.uk/race-results.php?event=2139&page=2

Only splits around the half and finish show up. The others are missing, seems to be only his that have this anomaly.

Yeah it would be a good idea to smooth it out to 12min. That way we have an apples to apples comparison. I can do it tomorrow. But if someone else feels like doing it have at it. Then I'll update my graph again.

Chester Marathon wrote:

Has this been seen yet? His splits from his Oct 4 2015 MBNA Chester marathon is full of holes, literally:

http://tdleventservices.co.uk/race-results.php?event=2139&page=2

Only splits around the half and finish show up. The others are missing, seems to be only his that have this anomaly.

Huh. This is a different Robert Young, but it's linked to his runbritain profile.

Chester Marathon wrote:

Has this been seen yet? His splits from his Oct 4 2015 MBNA Chester marathon is full of holes, literally:

http://tdleventservices.co.uk/race-results.php?event=2139&page=2

Only splits around the half and finish show up. The others are missing, seems to be only his that have this anomaly.

I saw this the other day. The course route is such that you would expect the half split to go missing if he was cutting the course, not the 10K or 30K splits unless I'm overlooking something.

He has photos for that race, but I'm not sure where on the course, or if any are missing.

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It's an uncomfortable thought but it has to be asked; if he's lied about all his achievements, which despite the charitable motivations still involve plenty of personal gain (of money, renoun, respect etc.), it makes you wonder what else he might have lied about too, including the details of his terrible childhood etc., particularly as they add such an appealing triumph-over-adversity aspect to the whole story. It might sound awful to doubt that, but once you've given people good reason to doubt your integrity it's inevitable that they're going to wonder about everything else you've claimed.

Ah, there's another Robert Young in the results. Threw me off for a second.

So those are the marathon mans results. He missed some mats it seems, 10k and 30k. And his 20 - 21.1 split time is about 20ish seconds slower than the others around him.

Anyone know the course?

Chester Drawers wrote:

Chester Marathon wrote:

Has this been seen yet? His splits from his Oct 4 2015 MBNA Chester marathon is full of holes, literally:

http://tdleventservices.co.uk/race-results.php?event=2139&page=2

Only splits around the half and finish show up. The others are missing, seems to be only his that have this anomaly.

I saw this the other day. The course route is such that you would expect the half split to go missing if he was cutting the course, not the 10K or 30K splits unless I'm overlooking something.

http://www.activeleisureevents.co.uk/marathon/route

He has photos for that race, but I'm not sure where on the course, or if any are missing.

https://www.marathon-photos.com/scripts/event.py?template=MPX2&new_search=1&event=Sports%2FCPUK%2F2015%2FChester%20Marathon&match=3342

Only 2 photos have another runner with a visible bib (#2311). That mate ran splits of 43:23 (10K), 1:25:31 (20K), 1:30:18 (half), 2:08:09 (30K), 3:01:45 (chip). RY would've been ahead of him at halfway by 7 minutes and then 11 minutes behind him at the finish so RY and 2311 must've been in the same pictures in the middle of the second half of the race, maybe around 30K. #2311 has the same number of race photos as RY.

Asher Delmott wrote:

I noticed the GPS data shows a 35 mi run starting at 10:10pm (which would include Emporia and the Lebo incident), and the next run starts around 3:37am (getting ready for the film crew at 4:00am?).

The blog also talks about not getting much rest because of the film crew. Maybe that was a good excuse to ride in the RV that night.

blog:

http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/2016/06/07/day-22-24-june-0306-were-not-in-kansas-anymore/

This was posted to the UL in reference to that 35mi tomtom track on 6/4:

"I took the 35mi one as the valid track for RY himself, but after looking at it closer I am doubting the legitimacy of that. Here's how I see it from viewing the RV and the RY gps data:

RY's TOMTOM gps: 35.18mi from 10:10CT to 3:37CT

RV Onlinetracker gps: 38.56mi from 10:02CT to 3:33CT (includes some backtracking in the middle)

Where it gets interesting is that the backtracking distance in the RV tracker adds up to 6 miles.

Subtract the 6 miles of back and forth (makes 12 miles) from the RV's total distance of 38.56 to find the net distance in that time frame is 26.75mi. Putting the Start and End coordinates into Google maps shows that the *REAL* distance on roads is indeed 26.4mi, which matches perfectly

So the RY TOMTOM GPS has to be in the van for at least *some* of that stretch in order to get the extra mileage - basically proving that their TomTom data is worthless.

The second TOMTOM track started at 10:22CT and goes 8.15mi in 1:32... coincidentally it ends EXACTLY where the backtracking of the van stopped. I presume this is where they came back to get him. He stops his second TOMTOM there. Apparently does not restart it again.

There is no further TOMTOM track until the 3:37CT track that starts the exact minute after the track from the TOMTOM we knew was in the van is ended.

So where is RY's missing 18.3 miles of TomTom there? Not to mention that somewhere in there they cruised past Asher Delmott, multiple times with no one seeing RY. How come all of the most suspicious days just happen to have the most incredibly awful tomtom coverage?"

Investigator wrote:

For Mr Fullers independent analyst, any suggestions.

Mr Fuller may be a bull shitter but he's not an idiot. This whole thing is starting to go viral now, he won't want his company associated with a cheater.

Expect our bull shitter Mr Young, who is an idiot and a liar, to be dropped very soon.

NO SKINS FOR SKINS

1 2 3 green wrote:

Updated graph with additional data until the final day.

http://imgur.com/TFQfTAe

link already put on the google doc.

Data used is here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtGrPEckX8y-2-zAFwUgzqCo4HYwUctZNOKDLbYD4Vk/edit#gid=853880784

I also created a new tab and pasted the tracker data from 6/11 to the end. (excellent work saving that whoever it was)

It's not visible on the graph, but prior to Asher's post he was doing up to 20 consecutive miles at sub 7 pace.

After the geezers showed up, and he tried to put on a show, there were still no more than 1.5 consecutive miles ran at sub 7. Usually a only half mile here or there.

Could somebody update the Miles Per Day chart to include the last stretch (6/11-6/17)? I'd try to do it manually, but I imagine there is an easier way.

I'm surprised by how erratic his daily mileage was. I thought it would be more consistent, or at least, consistently higher before 6/10. Does this graph really have all his miles? It shows an average of 44 MPD, but didn't he need to average more than 50 MPD to get the record?

That "miles per day" is based off of the TomTom screenshots. That is what I made the spreadsheet for initially and then other stuff got added to it.

Hiro wrote:

1 2 3 green wrote:

Updated graph with additional data until the final day.

http://imgur.com/TFQfTAe

I'm surprised by how erratic his daily mileage was. I thought it would be more consistent, or at least, consistently higher before 6/10. Does this graph really have all his miles? It shows an average of 44 MPD, but didn't he need to average more than 50 MPD to get the record?

That graph shows only miles ran faster than 7min pace, not total miles.

Gpsser wrote:

Hiro wrote:

I'm surprised by how erratic his daily mileage was. I thought it would be more consistent, or at least, consistently higher before 6/10. Does this graph really have all his miles? It shows an average of 44 MPD, but didn't he need to average more than 50 MPD to get the record?

That graph shows only miles ran faster than 7min pace, not total miles.

He's not talking about that one.

Are the merry men still at Golden Corral? Is that like one of those Vegas buffets where you stay there for hours and eat several meals?