Putin affected the election with traitor trolls like you, only ones less lazy & incompetent.
Putin affected the election with traitor trolls like you, only ones less lazy & incompetent.
Sally draws the line at sleeping with old white guys, so they sent in Maria Butina. Her fvck list must be some kind of record for ugly losers, also spelled NRA!
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Honestly, I think Watergate was overblown but Nixon needed to exit the Oval Office. I have mixed emotions on Clinton. Perjury and obstruction of justice. I guess he had to be removed.
Hold on, are you even pondering whether a president should be impeached for committing a felony?
No, I am not pondering that. Clinton committed felonies and should have been impeached. He was a scoundrel but after he left office he was a decent EX-president. Anyone with astroturf in the back of their pickup is not one I would want my daughter to hang around with. But, as ex-president he was likeable.
NRA= Nything for Russian A$$.
jesseriley wrote:
Sally draws the line at sleeping with old white guys, so they sent in Maria Butina. Her fvck list must be some kind of record for ugly losers, also spelled NRA!
I draw the line at sleeping with ANY guys, be they black, white, old, young, rich, poor, that sh%t a'int EVER going to happen.
Butina (once safely flying home after her prison stretch) said: “Russians never surrender.”
Above the waist, she meant.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
My understanding is that in MA elections Warren has done very poorly among West Massachusetts small town/rural voters. Much worse than she should. So it seems clear to me that she is being viewed as a harvard professor, not an Oklahoma girl. Call that unfair, but it is what it is. Her campaign, full of technocratic solutions, is certainly Harvardesque rather than Oklahoma-esque. For whatever reason, Biden doesn't trigger that 'he's looking down on me' feeling that Warren seems to trigger.
That said...Biden won't energize the Dem base as much as Warren would...so it's a balancing act. It's all about the suburbs and black turnout. Since Biden is way, way, way more popular among blacks, he seems to be the better choice to me.
Here, from a very smart guy, wasserman: “The fact that Warren underperformed Hillary Clinton in 228 of Massachusetts’s 351 towns, and did so in a blue wave year, speaks to her weakness with working-class white voters on the ballot,” said Cook Political Report editor Dave Wasserman, who analyzed the two-party vote share in each Massachusetts town in the 2018 midterms, when Warren was reelected. “Many parts of Massachusetts are culturally more similar to Wisconsin or Michigan than they are to Cambridge or Boston or Amherst. And that has to be a serious concern for next November, should it get to that.”
You may be misinterpreting the data, which I think backs up my thesis.
In that race, Warren was running to represent Massachusetts. So running as an Oklahoman would be a non-starter. She had no choice but to run on her record in that state. So Warren was seen only as a Harvard professor. It's not a surprise that this didn't play well in rural parts of the state.
But a national race is a whole different ball game. We have yet to find out how Warren will be defined.
If she's the Oklahoma school teacher, she does well. If she's the Harvard professor she does poorly.
I hear you, I guess. But the fact remains that Biden has proven strength among small town/ruralers and African Americans.
Warren has neither - in fact she has a poor track record with people who aren't white and urban.
So sure, she could change her appeal somehow. But honestly...the whole eliz warren thing is pretty simple and hard to change...someone in favor of a lot of government solutions to moderate capitalism, and all the lefty PC stuff thrown in.
Without those things...who is she really? She'd be walkign away from her entire persona.
But maybe she could manage the change somehow. I dunno.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Hold on, are you even pondering whether a president should be impeached for committing a felony?
No, I am not pondering that. Clinton committed felonies and should have been impeached. He was a scoundrel but after he left office he was a decent EX-president. Anyone with astroturf in the back of their pickup is not one I would want my daughter to hang around with. But, as ex-president he was likeable.
It's good to know you support trump's impeachment as you already admitted he made a quid pro quo phone call, which is abuse of power an impeachable offense. What you should be finding really sad is that if the House was GOP-controlled that whistle blower report would have been muted. GOP would have kept looking the other way and you know it. Perhaps one of the most powerful elements of the constitution is separation of powers as a checks and balances mechanism. If you are pro-constitution then you support an impeachment inquiry. If the president is allowed to to use their power to compel a foreign government to help them stay in power then we would be in fact creating a path to a dictatorship.
Sally Vix wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Sally draws the line at sleeping with old white guys, so they sent in Maria Butina. Her fvck list must be some kind of record for ugly losers, also spelled NRA!
I draw the line at sleeping with ANY guys, be they black, white, old, young, rich, poor, that sh%t a'int EVER going to happen.
Homophobe detected - notice use of aggressive language to suggest it would be some sort of evil act
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
No, I am not pondering that. Clinton committed felonies and should have been impeached. He was a scoundrel but after he left office he was a decent EX-president. Anyone with astroturf in the back of their pickup is not one I would want my daughter to hang around with. But, as ex-president he was likeable.
It's good to know you support trump's impeachment as you already admitted he made a quid pro quo phone call, which is abuse of power an impeachable offense. What you should be finding really sad is that if the House was GOP-controlled that whistle blower report would have been muted. GOP would have kept looking the other way and you know it. Perhaps one of the most powerful elements of the constitution is separation of powers as a checks and balances mechanism. If you are pro-constitution then you support an impeachment inquiry. If the president is allowed to to use their power to compel a foreign government to help them stay in power then we would be in fact creating a path to a dictatorship.
Trolliminator - I hate so many things about Trump. His juvenile tweets. His bombastic remarks when he makes speeches. Even his effing orange hair! But I respect the US Constitution and I really think the Dems are trying to oust him from office because they despise him. The phone call - I am still mixed on that. We had the effing Mueller investigation. Nothing came out of that. Then other stuff. Just all these people coming forward. I am exhausted reading all this stuff. The Whistleblower is now persona non grata. Now they have someone else who can bring down trump. Just one more person after another trying to bring Trump down. It is almost 2020. Let the people decide if this clown needs to exit stage right.
Da Truf wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I draw the line at sleeping with ANY guys, be they black, white, old, young, rich, poor, that sh%t a'int EVER going to happen.
Homophobe detected - notice use of aggressive language to suggest it would be some sort of evil act
You got a chuckle out of me. Nice!
I’ve heard little vladdy putin turns a few tricks on the side. Like donny.
Fat Boy is dressing up for Halloween as a president who’s not being impeached, so tomorrow is going to svck!
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It's good to know you support trump's impeachment as you already admitted he made a quid pro quo phone call, which is abuse of power an impeachable offense. What you should be finding really sad is that if the House was GOP-controlled that whistle blower report would have been muted. GOP would have kept looking the other way and you know it. Perhaps one of the most powerful elements of the constitution is separation of powers as a checks and balances mechanism. If you are pro-constitution then you support an impeachment inquiry. If the president is allowed to to use their power to compel a foreign government to help them stay in power then we would be in fact creating a path to a dictatorship.
The phone call - I am still mixed on that.
Why?
Ok you obviously don't think it was a "perfect" phone call so you should be supportive of the impeachment inquiry. What do the whistle blower's identity and Dems' hate for trump have to do with his actions on that phone call?
The Dems would not be doing their jobs if they didn't try to check the president. Sending Rudy around the world to set up secret channels of diplomacy for his personal agenda should raise all the hairs on the back of your neck.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It's good to know you support trump's impeachment as you already admitted he made a quid pro quo phone call, which is abuse of power an impeachable offense. What you should be finding really sad is that if the House was GOP-controlled that whistle blower report would have been muted. GOP would have kept looking the other way and you know it. Perhaps one of the most powerful elements of the constitution is separation of powers as a checks and balances mechanism. If you are pro-constitution then you support an impeachment inquiry. If the president is allowed to to use their power to compel a foreign government to help them stay in power then we would be in fact creating a path to a dictatorship.
Trolliminator - I hate so many things about Trump. His juvenile tweets. His bombastic remarks when he makes speeches. Even his effing orange hair! But I respect the US Constitution and I really think the Dems are trying to oust him from office because they despise him. The phone call - I am still mixed on that. We had the effing Mueller investigation. Nothing came out of that. Then other stuff. Just all these people coming forward. I am exhausted reading all this stuff. The Whistleblower is now persona non grata. Now they have someone else who can bring down trump. Just one more person after another trying to bring Trump down. It is almost 2020. Let the people decide if this clown needs to exit stage right.
the better interpretation is that Trump keeps committing impeachable acts.
I mean just asking the military to 'skrew over Amazon' by choosing another contractor is impeachable.
He's committed multiple impeachable acts, over and over, and he hasn't learned a thing. he was told not to solicit campaign help from foreign nations but he keeps doing it and says he'll do it again and again.
Trump is not a normal president. He is an amoral crime machine. It's not the Dem's fault that he keep committing impeachable acts. Don't hold it against them. Hold it against trump and his R enablers.
jesseriley wrote:
I’ve heard little vladdy putin turns a few tricks on the side. Like donny.
Fat Boy is dressing up for Halloween as a president who’s not being impeached, so tomorrow is going to svck!
Are we missing his most obvious Halloween costume???
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Sally Vix wrote:
Trolliminator - I hate so many things about Trump. His juvenile tweets. His bombastic remarks when he makes speeches. Even his effing orange hair! But I respect the US Constitution and I really think the Dems are trying to oust him from office because they despise him. The phone call - I am still mixed on that. We had the effing Mueller investigation. Nothing came out of that. Then other stuff. Just all these people coming forward. I am exhausted reading all this stuff. The Whistleblower is now persona non grata. Now they have someone else who can bring down trump. Just one more person after another trying to bring Trump down. It is almost 2020. Let the people decide if this clown needs to exit stage right.
the better interpretation is that Trump keeps committing impeachable acts.
I mean just asking the military to 'skrew over Amazon' by choosing another contractor is impeachable.
He's committed multiple impeachable acts, over and over, and he hasn't learned a thing. he was told not to solicit campaign help from foreign nations but he keeps doing it and says he'll do it again and again.
Trump is not a normal president. He is an amoral crime machine. It's not the Dem's fault that he keep committing impeachable acts. Don't hold it against them. Hold it against trump and his R enablers.
If Trump goes, are you fine with Pence as Pres? Or will you be going after him next?
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Trolliminator - I hate so many things about Trump. His juvenile tweets. His bombastic remarks when he makes speeches. Even his effing orange hair! But I respect the US Constitution and I really think the Dems are trying to oust him from office because they despise him. The phone call - I am still mixed on that. We had the effing Mueller investigation. Nothing came out of that. Then other stuff. Just all these people coming forward. I am exhausted reading all this stuff. The Whistleblower is now persona non grata. Now they have someone else who can bring down trump. Just one more person after another trying to bring Trump down. It is almost 2020. Let the people decide if this clown needs to exit stage right.
the better interpretation is that Trump keeps committing impeachable acts.
I mean just asking the military to 'skrew over Amazon' by choosing another contractor is impeachable.
He's committed multiple impeachable acts, over and over, and he hasn't learned a thing. he was told not to solicit campaign help from foreign nations but he keeps doing it and says he'll do it again and again.
Trump is not a normal president. He is an amoral crime machine. It's not the Dem's fault that he keep committing impeachable acts. Don't hold it against them. Hold it against trump and his R enablers.
True, he's does so much ridiculous stuff that the House cannot keep up. Basically, what we have here is a chaotic administration. If you go back and look at the early parts of this thread, many of us predicted chaos because Trump has no management/organizational skills and he isn't professional. We knew this was going to happen.
Sally wants to wait another year, but a year is too long. Trump is a ticking time bomb. We've been lucky so far to avoid a major catastrophe due to Trump's ineptness. It could actually get much worse than even the stupid stuff he's already done (China tariffs, pulling out of Syria, 1 billion gift to the rich) He needs to GTFO for the sake of the country.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
the better interpretation is that Trump keeps committing impeachable acts.
I mean just asking the military to 'skrew over Amazon' by choosing another contractor is impeachable.
He's committed multiple impeachable acts, over and over, and he hasn't learned a thing. he was told not to solicit campaign help from foreign nations but he keeps doing it and says he'll do it again and again.
Trump is not a normal president. He is an amoral crime machine. It's not the Dem's fault that he keep committing impeachable acts. Don't hold it against them. Hold it against trump and his R enablers.
If Trump goes, are you fine with Pence as Pres? Or will you be going after him next?
I would be fine with him. Pence would be the lawful president, but he seems to be implicated right now as well as the WH is refusing to release the transcripts of his conversations with Ukraine. As long as he has not committed an impeachable offense I'm fine with him. I would expect Congress to be a check to him as well. That is all.
foo wrote:
agip wrote:
the better interpretation is that Trump keeps committing impeachable acts.
I mean just asking the military to 'skrew over Amazon' by choosing another contractor is impeachable.
He's committed multiple impeachable acts, over and over, and he hasn't learned a thing. he was told not to solicit campaign help from foreign nations but he keeps doing it and says he'll do it again and again.
Trump is not a normal president. He is an amoral crime machine. It's not the Dem's fault that he keep committing impeachable acts. Don't hold it against them. Hold it against trump and his R enablers.
True, he's does so much ridiculous stuff that the House cannot keep up. Basically, what we have here is a chaotic administration. If you go back and look at the early parts of this thread, many of us predicted chaos because Trump has no management/organizational skills and he isn't professional. We knew this was going to happen.
Sally wants to wait another year, but a year is too long. Trump is a ticking time bomb. We've been lucky so far to avoid a major catastrophe due to Trump's ineptness. It could actually get much worse than even the stupid stuff he's already done (China tariffs, pulling out of Syria, 1 billion gift to the rich) He needs to GTFO for the sake of the country.
I can do Biden for 4 years. I could even do Hillary for 4 years. I CAN NOT do Warren or Sanders - Socialism will wreck this country. Oust Trump but put moderal LIb in there. Not the radicals.
