Yeah, alright. You're either his Dad or a Rowan coach. Please get lawyers involved, discovery is going to be an absolute gold mine.
Not his Dad, not a coach. Just an alum who knows more about the situation than probably anyone on this thread.
It's incredible to me that you all can't comprehend a kid who ran 4:07 and 14:27 in highschool is now running 13:32 and 3:59, and you think it's doping. This is the most petty thread of all time.
Hey buddy,
These D3 athletes have Ivy League level fbi investigation skills. Did you not see the part in the petition about SC admitting to using BPC or whatever
No one’s opinions are relevant on this thread because it’s just a bunch of washed up ex college folks who never could crack the top 10 at a conference meet. None of yall were ever relevant and think busting one person way better than you will get you closer to relevancy. Turn off your computer, go train, and come back to the thread when you have a dash of relevancy.
I'm a current collegiate athlete- 13:30’s and I don’t even care. I care about grown 28 year old Kenyans coming that run 13:10 and had sponsorships and get paid 60k a year and take my money but that’s about it.
Put away the computer shut up and come back when you at least even break 15.
Can tell all yall are liberals too. Since when has your petition ever got you crap?
whine whine whine. He’s been tested out the wazoo and tested negative every time. Y’all live in a fairy tale land where laws don’t exist and petitions can get you your way.
hate to break it to you but a lot of your champions of the sport are doping. So just sit down and go train harder.
No one’s opinions are relevant on this thread because it’s just a bunch of washed up ex college folks who never could crack the top 10 at a conference meet. None of yall were ever relevant and think busting one person way better than you will get you closer to relevancy. Turn off your computer, go train, and come back to the thread when you have a dash of relevancy.
I'm a current collegiate athlete- 13:30’s and I don’t even care. I care about grown 28 year old Kenyans coming that run 13:10 and had sponsorships and get paid 60k a year and take my money but that’s about it.
Put away the computer shut up and come back when you at least even break 15.
Well good for D3 they don’t have to worry about 28 year old Kenyans like D1 does with Rita Gary/Ed Eyestone complaining.D3 is trying to keep their division clean and nothing else with a proper investigation. If Clev is confirmed clean then cool he’s clean but given the lack of transparency by Rowan and Iowa State it’s within our rights to be suspicious.
also leblond literally posted in here so not quite just washed up people. Frankly the alum probably don’t care about the situation at all.
Not his Dad, not a coach. Just an alum who knows more about the situation than probably anyone on this thread.
It's incredible to me that you all can't comprehend a kid who ran 4:07 and 14:27 in highschool is now running 13:32 and 3:59, and you think it's doping. This is the most petty thread of all time.
Hey dingus,
Marco Langon was a 4:11 guy in high school and just split 3:50 on the DMR
The petition is taking rumors and stating them as fact. For instance, the petition says that he was "removed" from the Iowa State team.
He was never removed from the team.
The petition loses all credibility due that mistatement. So when it says he admitted to using BPC, can we believe that is true or is it just a rumor?
Do you believe that a suspension is not a temporary removal? Or do you believe that a temporary removal is not a removal?
If the petition meant "temporary" removal, then it should have stated it that way. They are being intentionally misleading.
The word "removal" does not have the same meaning as a "temporary" removal or suspension. Temporary and suspension imply an end date/time whereas the word removal by itself, without a qualifier, does not.
Do you believe that a suspension is not a temporary removal? Or do you believe that a temporary removal is not a removal?
If the petition meant "temporary" removal, then it should have stated it that way. They are being intentionally misleading.
The word "removal" does not have the same meaning as a "temporary" removal or suspension. Temporary and suspension imply an end date/time whereas the word removal by itself, without a qualifier, does not.
Do you believe that a suspension is not a temporary removal? Or do you believe that a temporary removal is not a removal?
If the petition meant "temporary" removal, then it should have stated it that way. They are being intentionally misleading.
The word "removal" does not have the same meaning as a "temporary" removal or suspension. Temporary and suspension imply an end date/time whereas the word removal by itself, without a qualifier, does not.
Let us know when that ISU suspension was/is slated to end for Clevenger and the others.
Just chiming in that guys 1-2 steps removed have confirmed this guy was on EPO along with his summer training buddies (some guys who have finished top 10 at NCAAs/USAs)
Just chiming in that guys 1-2 steps removed have confirmed this guy was on EPO along with his summer training buddies (some guys who have finished top 10 at NCAAs/USAs)
As a letsrun degenerate there were rumors of athletes from other programs in this circle. Emphasis on rumors because I don’t have a reliable source except the threads for those extras
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given what i know i believe seth is clean. i’m not here to argue that point or try to sway anyone. im just curious for the people who do not think he’s clean, what would it take to have your mind changed? because i genuinely think a lot of people on both sides of this would not change their mind regardless of if a positive test came out, or a million negative tests came out. and that’s fine either way, but you should at least be honest with yourself about the fact that you are arguing in bad faith.