jesseriley wrote:
We can always count on sally to be first with the wrong answer (ghost would be, but he’s too old & slow).
We know Congress investigated Watergate when it happened but it was years before Nixon resigned, not even impeached yet. Only happened when GOP surrendered. Of course, some have already surrendered, a tenth of the caucus is retiring (so far).
I am only the first with the wrong answer because my typing is faster than Ghosts!
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Sally you know it's not a slam dunk b/c its a political process and half this country are mouth breathers like yourself who will gladly give ear to the stunts the right is doing to distract and dissuade the public. Both sides are trying to convince the public - Dems trying to convince the public he committed an impeachable act and the right is telling you there is nothing to see here.
The only thing I urge you to do, and this may be easy enough for you, is to pretend this is a court case, you are a juror and you've just read the opening statements. The transcript of the call was clear, the reports of the witness accounts have thus far corroborated the allegations. You will soon hear more directly about the testimonies given and other facts will come out.
Question #1 for you: Based on what you have seen and read so far, do you think he requested the favor in quid pro quo fashion?
Question #2, and this more important: Do you believe he abused his power for personal gain and is that "impeachable enough" for you?
Will address Q2 first. You guys keep saying he did something for personal gain. What kind of personal gain are you talking about?
Stop deflecting. You did not address #2. If you haven't noticed he has an election next year and Joe Biden is his #1 opponent. Diplomats handling Ukraine issues were told to not get in Rudy's way and the stooges flocked to the region to help set up parallel diplomacy for one possible reason only. And you are still wondering what the personal gain is? Re election is becoming a life or death situation for him if you haven't noticed the avalanche of legal issues coming his way. Stop with the distractions and address this quid pro quo situation.
Now answer #1
Just need Donald Trump to be Trump this week, have a big option bet and counting on him to do something stupid to jerk the markets. Doing something stupid is a solid given, he’s been fairly toned down lately so he’s do to explode. Pressure is building in that inflated idiot, time to erupt!
Sally Vix wrote:
Wouldn't it be great to see some sanity from Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, Nancy and the rest of the nutjobs in the House?
Maybe you just don't recognize sanity anymore . . .
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Will address Q2 first. You guys keep saying he did something for personal gain. What kind of personal gain are you talking about?
Stop deflecting. You did not address #2. If you haven't noticed he has an election next year and Joe Biden is his #1 opponent. Diplomats handling Ukraine issues were told to not get in Rudy's way and the stooges flocked to the region to help set up parallel diplomacy for one possible reason only. And you are still wondering what the personal gain is? Re election is becoming a life or death situation for him if you haven't noticed the avalanche of legal issues coming his way. Stop with the distractions and address this quid pro quo situation.
Now answer #1
Pondering #1
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Stop deflecting. You did not address #2. If you haven't noticed he has an election next year and Joe Biden is his #1 opponent. Diplomats handling Ukraine issues were told to not get in Rudy's way and the stooges flocked to the region to help set up parallel diplomacy for one possible reason only. And you are still wondering what the personal gain is? Re election is becoming a life or death situation for him if you haven't noticed the avalanche of legal issues coming his way. Stop with the distractions and address this quid pro quo situation.
Now answer #1
Pondering #1
Honestly, I think he maybe did. I am puzzled by the fact there is not more hoopla about it. If he really did what you are alleging he should be removed from office. Why is the matter so a nothingburger now?
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, you are indicating that impeachment is a done deal. No doubt were the words you used. If it is a slam dunk, why is Nancy Pelosi doing this slow walk with an impeachment inquiry?
Sally you know it's not a slam dunk b/c its a political process and half this country are mouth breathers like yourself who will gladly give ear to the stunts the right is doing to distract and dissuade the public. Both sides are trying to convince the public - Dems trying to convince the public he committed an impeachable act and the right is telling you there is nothing to see here.
The only thing I urge you to do, and this may be easy enough for you, is to pretend this is a court case, you are a juror and you've just read the opening statements. The transcript of the call was clear, the reports of the witness accounts have thus far corroborated the allegations. You will soon hear more directly about the testimonies given and other facts will come out.
Question #1 for you: Based on what you have seen and read so far, do you think he requested the favor in quid pro quo fashion?
Question #2, and this more important: Do you believe he abused his power for personal gain and is that "impeachable enough" for you?
When you say I am a "mouth breather" what does that mean?
This is an obamanation!!! Just say no to immigration!!!!
1040 wrote:
And everyone fills out a 2 page 1040 main from. Repeat, everybody.
The point going back to the original posters is, there is no way to link specific income to a specific donation in a tax return.
There was a point made by someone a few days ago; you cannot donate money to the IRS. You can only donate money to qualifying non-profits. And that is what Trump is actually doing. There is no donation of government salary to the U.S. Treasury.
No one said that he doesn't complete a 1040.
The best way to have this explained is to see how he filed his taxes.
Salary income is separate from business income.
The only salary he has now is his presidential salary since he has put his other operations in a trust.
He does have other income from these businesses, though.
Each of the businesses that would be part of a partnership, LLC or S Corp would flow to his personal 1040.
Profit from shares in a C Corp would not except for dividends.
Deductions of his business income would have to be related to each of his business.
Therefore any other charitable donations must come from his salary - his presidential salary. So you can link specific income to specific donations. There are forms and documents to backup each line item on the 1040.
Recently, Trump allegedly donated $100,000 to the Surgeon General's office. This comes from his presidential salary.
It was not donated by one of his businesses.
But exactly how will it be treated on his tax return? I believe the public has a right to know that since it's public money.
What was the taxable benefit of the donations and what would his taxes have been without the donations?
Sally Vix wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Pondering #1
Honestly, I think he maybe did. I am puzzled by the fact there is not more hoopla about it. If he really did what you are alleging he should be removed from office. Why is the matter so a nothingburger now?
You just haven’t paid attention to the hoopla. He has been a conman under your noses for 3 years now and you haven’t bothered to notice, so if it’s a nothingburger to you then you’ve been conned.
Besides, are you saying you are not ready to support his impeachment because there is not enough hoopla? Can’t you think for yourself?
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Honestly, I think he maybe did. I am puzzled by the fact there is not more hoopla about it. If he really did what you are alleging he should be removed from office. Why is the matter so a nothingburger now?
You just haven’t paid attention to the hoopla. He has been a conman under your noses for 3 years now and you haven’t bothered to notice, so if it’s a nothingburger to you then you’ve been conned.
Besides, are you saying you are not ready to support his impeachment because there is not enough hoopla? Can’t you think for yourself?
Yes, I can think for myself. Can you Liberals think for yourselves? You can't accept that Donald Trump was duly elected. You have the bogus Mueller investigation for 2 years that looked into everything Trump and found EFFING nothing. NOTHING! And you Liberal pansies did not get you desired outcome you have this new impeachment inquiry. You hate the guy. Admit it! But he is our president! You guys are more pathetic by the day.
OK, Trump was duly elected.
What does that have to do with the fact that he committed impeachable offenses this year and since the conclusion of the Mueller investigation?
Was the election a free pass to do whatever he wants?
Sally Vix wrote:
When you say I am a "mouth breather" what does that mean?
Someone who lacks enough intelligence that they never learned to breath through their nose. Now there is such a thing as an educated mouth breather, as work ethic in school does not necessarily mean a person has high intellect.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
You just haven’t paid attention to the hoopla. He has been a conman under your noses for 3 years now and you haven’t bothered to notice, so if it’s a nothingburger to you then you’ve been conned.
Besides, are you saying you are not ready to support his impeachment because there is not enough hoopla? Can’t you think for yourself?
Yes, I can think for myself. Can you Liberals think for yourselves? You can't accept that Donald Trump was duly elected. You have the bogus Mueller investigation for 2 years that looked into everything Trump and found EFFING nothing. NOTHING! And you Liberal pansies did not get you desired outcome you have this new impeachment inquiry. You hate the guy. Admit it! But he is our president! You guys are more pathetic by the day.
You keep making the "daily elected" argument, but that doesn't excuse incompetence and what he tried to do with Ukraine.
Trump absolutely did not accept Obama being duly elected. Not only did he constantly criticize Obama, he led the birther "hoax" to remove him from office.
Sally Vix wrote:
Yes, I can think for myself.
If you can think for yourself and you just admitted you believe it was a quid pro quo action then you should just say you are pro impeachment.. or otherwise you can just say you like him and that's why you don't want him investigated.
Left Turn wrote:
OK, Trump was duly elected.
What does that have to do with the fact that he committed impeachable offenses this year and since the conclusion of the Mueller investigation?
Was the election a free pass to do whatever he wants?
The call with the Ukrainian dude was the impeachable offense. The House has it. Why do they have to look into other stuff. We were told that was an impeachable offense. Effing impeach him now and get it over with!
Just say no to immigration wrote:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/record-67-3-million-speak-foreign-language-at-home-over-50-in-90-big-cities-59-in-laThis is an obamanation!!! Just say no to immigration!!!!
Good luck with that, but as long as you’re naive enough to fall for his routine.
https://time.com/5039109/donald-trump-undocumented-polish-trump-tower-bonwit-teller/https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2017/12/20/president-trump-commutes-sentence-sholom-rubashkin-ex-iowa-slaughterhouse-executive/971291001/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fake-green-cards-trump-773721/https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/trump-organization-undocumented-workershttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/04/06/trump-administration-nearly-doubles-h-b-guest-visa-program-which-brings-many-mexican-workers/The trap has been sprung.
Just met with my accountant and the Trump economy has made me even richer then I already was. Planning to retire at 45 in a few weeks. Geez. And Wow. The guy’s a complete turd and I didn’t even vote but what a windfall. How’s everyone else doing? And now everything is tax sheltered in the Caymans because only suckers and the poor actually pay taxes.
Sally Vix wrote:
Left Turn wrote:
OK, Trump was duly elected.
What does that have to do with the fact that he committed impeachable offenses this year and since the conclusion of the Mueller investigation?
Was the election a free pass to do whatever he wants?
The call with the Ukrainian dude was the impeachable offense. The House has it. Why do they have to look into other stuff. We were told that was an impeachable offense. Effing impeach him now and get it over with!
What "other stuff?"