Robert Young fakes run across America

RossiCheated wrote:

So, what is the cheater going to say when SKINS asks for the data? He might not have to share anything with us but he has a contractual relationships with them and they would have standing to sue him for damaging their brand. Will he delete it all (if he has not already done so) and claim it was an accident? Will he give them faked data and pray they can't prove it's fake?

I think someone is sweating a lot more now than he ever did while riding across the western U.S. in an air conditioned RV.

I don't know. But there is no way he is just handing it over. I wouldn't. Will probably post something on Facebook about how his own sponsor is dragging him through the mud. 300 comments will be "gutted" for him. He will tell SKINS to stuff it, and they either will, or he'll just find another sponsor who enjoys all the social media hype he generates, unless the heat is kept up with major media outlets exposing this guy.

RossiCheated wrote:

So, what is the cheater going to say when SKINS asks for the data? He might not have to share anything with us but he has a contractual relationships with them and they would have standing to sue him for damaging their brand. Will he delete it all (if he has not already done so) and claim it was an accident? Will he give them faked data and pray they can't prove it's fake?

I think someone is sweating a lot more now than he ever did while riding across the western U.S. in an air conditioned RV.

Either SKINS was in on it or their employee is a complete moron for not notifying the home office of the shenanigans.

Will be very skeptical of independent investigator if they try to sweep it under the rug.

Yes I am lazy and don't want to do my research myself. But throw me a bone. Is skins a real company that sells much of anything? I have never heard of such gear. What are their revenues?

Surprised Asher never checks in anymore. Seems he was vindicated.

Do you think the whole statue thing has gone to his head?

Ignorant of Skins wrote:

Yes I am lazy and don't want to do my research myself. But throw me a bone. Is skins a real company that sells much of anything? I have never heard of such gear. What are their revenues?

Roughly $85M in revenue in 2014.

Yes, real company, but no, doesn't sell much of anything. I tried to get them to sponsor me a couple of years ago (I'm regionally competitive, this seemed like a decent matchup) but never got much response. Glad I didn't pursue it. They had some weird social media site set up for self promotion in order to get their attention.

apologies if this has already been posted, but the Guardian newspaper in the UK has picked up on it:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/22/robert-young-marathon-record-attempt-cheating-rumors

Glad to see this narcissistic, fraudulent a-hole getting some degree of come-uppance.

1 2 3 green wrote:

ESPN_filmer wrote:

Awesome!!! Would be nice to see another big string of zeros at the end there. Can we get this man the KML data? I know it exists somewhere - "Rob Arvie" on Strava posted all the data up to the hospital/Golden Corral ending.

I didn't think any existed past the 10th? i would love to see a ton of "zero's" on the end too. Glad i added them, it gives the graph a lot more punch than just blank spaces.

No, people definitely saved the stream of data still.

Jehosephat wrote:

Marathon Maniac wrote:

I wonder if that is the Marathon Maniac #59 Robert Lopez.

Er... no, #59 is Gary Allen who is a hell of a lot better runner than I am.

I was Maniac #111 before I got kicked out of the club and erased from existence by #3. Another story for another time.

Psssst. What's worse than being a member of the Marathon Maniacs? Being in it or being kicked out of it?

I can only imagine why they kicked you out. Did not not take the early start? LMAO

Jason Conley wrote:

I've got a photo up so that he can't go back and change his comments like he has done with other posts.

http://i.imgur.com/rrpaN3Z.jpg

All credit to Markus.

Let's get the word out to Mr. Fuller of SKINS, The Guardian, etc.

Thanks Jason.

I think this whole thing was a huge team effort or you could say: "Crowdbusting"

Skins USA doesn't seem like much of a company. If you go to their website and look at their USA address then google a street view of it, it looks like an apartment in a low grade neighborhood.

Logical new pet name for the RY sponsor/cover up partner, Skins ; Spins.

It's entirely possible that there was some early hanky panky in that skanky RV. Maybe Mr. Michael Speicher got caught in a compromising situation with a sausage in his hand. And then maybe the British blokes blackmailed him into going along with the scam. Stranger things have happened.

wakkoxc wrote:

Either SKINS was in on it or their employee is a complete moron for not notifying the home office of the shenanigans.

Will be very skeptical of independent investigator if they try to sweep it under the rug.

Markus wrote:

Jason Conley wrote:

I've got a photo up so that he can't go back and change his comments like he has done with other posts.

http://i.imgur.com/rrpaN3Z.jpg

All credit to Markus.

Let's get the word out to Mr. Fuller of SKINS, The Guardian, etc.

Thanks Jason.

I think this whole thing was a huge team effort or you could say: "Crowdbusting"

You've done great work Markus. I like how posting his splits that they provided is "hating"

I ran with Rob for a mile or two at an event (equinox24) almost two year ago. I was impressed with what he was attempting (more than a marathon aday for a year) though thought it strange he wasn't on Strava or any other running app. Hearing that he has cheated, is extremely annoying! It makes you question his other ultra achievements. Over here he is supported by so many, who may not hear of this. He is listed to run Equinox24 again as a pair in September. This kinda pisses me off.

RY needs an editor.

1 2 3 green wrote:

I made a graph of how many miles Rob ran each day at sub 7 pace. (sub 5 pace exluded)

http://imgur.com/dqITj4z

Elevation profile included as well as notes helping to show the drop-off when accusations were made.

Open to suggestions for changes or additions.

Originally i had sub 10:00 pace on there as well, but it got too busy. It was interesting to see that he pretty much ran all of his miles at sub 7 until he was accused, then immediately nothing under 10.

Wow. Great graphic. That is really telling!

I wonder if it would muddy things up if you added the total miles run above that pace for each day, or the number of hours running and/or resting?

Jehosephat wrote:

Marathon Maniac wrote:

I wonder if that is the Marathon Maniac #59 Robert Lopez.

Er... no, #59 is Gary Allen who is a hell of a lot better runner than I am.

I was Maniac #111 before I got kicked out of the club and erased from existence by #3. Another story for another time.

Well listen, we're all here in the comfort of our mom's air conditioned basements so go right ahead...

Ukrunner777 wrote:

I ran with Rob for a mile or two at an event (equinox24) almost two year ago. I was impressed with what he was attempting (more than a marathon aday for a year) though thought it strange he wasn't on Strava or any other running app. Hearing that he has cheated, is extremely annoying! It makes you question his other ultra achievements. Over here he is supported by so many, who may not hear of this. He is listed to run Equinox24 again as a pair in September. This kinda pisses me off.

Please post the Guardian article in the UK Ultra Facebook group or in this one:

And yeah, his one marathon a day achievement is a scam as well.