At what point do people stop watching? It's the same thing over and over. Especially when you don't improve in any sort of significant way. His stuff is 100% style over substance, to the people who watch his stuff, what do you even get out of it? Dude just smells his own farts for the entire video and tells you he's awesome when he doesn't even view the race as a success.
A year or so ago, one of his vids got recommended to me and I started watching some. Then I stopped for the reasons you mention.
Then I found this thread and now I'm delightfully hate watching lol.
literally same. found blowberg 2 years ago. actually enjoyed it, was new, he wasn't insufferable. then it's like you continue to watch the videos, he gets more full of himself, tries to make everything way over the top, and just starts selling himself out for money through running and it becomes so easy to really dislike the guy, what he does, and how he acts. i can't even bring to hate watch myself anymore as his videos are so annoying. i just will look at the strava to balk at the stupidity of his training and the insane comments his followers continue to leave. the youtube videos are too aggravating for me to look at.
will this guy ever lose his audience? how are they still this invested and suck up to him so much with the things they write? wild. i really wish eric would tell us if he knows he's being a fake and acting so hard for the camera to pretend he loves the running community and is so happy, or if he'll just live in internal denial and continue to make 40 minute videos with an artsy spin for then next decade. can't wait to see this clown fall off lol
well, that's why I didn't say he was a good filmmaker. I don't really understand what story he is even trying to tell, and I fear he's in the same boat.
Honestly that was a weak ass video full stop. Even the hate watchers need some payoff to commit to hate watching, and this just wasn’t enough.
Sorry Flobonk, I don’t think I have the capacity to watch your next series if all the buildup is just going to lead to 17 mins of crappy sideline footage with the worst song in the world layered on top.
He is not a good filmmaker. He uses all the cliche techniques he knows, overlaid with cliche music because he thinks it's cool but he has no feelings, no creativity, he's just what he thinks people want to see. If he was a good filmmaker he wouldn't be stealing money from gullible newbie runners, he wouldn't be shilling BPN, he wouldn't be prostituting his family for a few views on YouTube. If he was a good filmmaker he'd be making films or TV shows somewhere. He'd have producers and funding. Everything he has done has been self funded (or by mummy and daddy) - let that sink in
I don't think there's mommy and daddy money there. I'm very familiar with the Chicago area and let me tell you he's living in Park Ridge, which is not a premier suburb, in a modest house with a one car garage.
I don't buy his whole cope about the watch. Looking at his splits it seems like a regular blow up at mile 20 to me.
Doesn't he usually manually lap per mile? I just checked Strava and he was manually lapping every mile. What is he saying about watch issues?
He is either making excuses for the camera or he is more delusional than we all think
Yeah I didn't understand that - if you're manually lapping, surely you know what your time for each mile is?
You should also know what your target 5k splits are supposed to be - that's just basic stuff. So he should have known by 5k that he was off pace, rather than halfway as he claims... All a bit strange
I don't buy his whole cope about the watch. Looking at his splits it seems like a regular blow up at mile 20 to me.
Doesn't he usually manually lap per mile? I just checked Strava and he was manually lapping every mile. What is he saying about watch issues?
He is either making excuses for the camera or he is more delusional than we all think
You're right you can see his paces for all 26 miles. It's entirely possible he had it on the wrong mode but it doesn't mean it's not going to keep track of his intervals as he pushes the lap button and his overall time. He knew how he was doing.
The thing that got me and where his story breaks down is how easy the first half felt because he was actually running slower than he thought he was but then in the second half he blows up? I don't think losing 20 seconds per mile for the final few miles is necessarily blowing up it's not like he was walking. If he was truly nauseated and needed to vomit a few times he's still pulled off one hell of an effort to get a 7 second PR. Why not just talk about how the race was tough that day because it happens to everyone and he's still pulled off a slight PR which is incredible, rather than making excuses for not going to 2:28.
The reality is you're not going to PR in every marathon when you reach this level especially as a regular person. Hell even elites and sub elites don't PR every race and don't have every race come together. That's why it's special when it does.
And here I was thinking she might actually benefit from a bit of a mental break and a bit of perspective. Fool me twice..
(Seriously though, i'm glad that's the case because watching people run themselves into serious injuries for 5 minutes of YouTube money is...not pretty, but also that is some WEIRD timing.)
Why on earth target 2:28 instead of a 2:31 PR, or even 2:30 or 2:29:59? The hubris is unreal, yet somehow completely believable.
Everyone knows GPS goes haywire at the start of Chicago. You’re supposed to pace off the mile or 5 km markers. How has someone who’s run Chicago multiple times still not figured that out?
He hit halfway in 75:31, then claimed he picked it up before blowing up. His fastest stretch of the entire race was from 21.1 km to 25 km at 5:42 per mile. Even that’s not 2:28:xx pace, and it cooked him.
If he’d gone through halfway around 74:20, he wouldn’t have gotten a PR as he would have blown up even harder. Thinking he could run 2:28:xx was pure delusion.
What's weird to me is that his official race split for the 3.9km between HM (21.1k) and 25k was 5:42 pace, which isn't much of a surge. In the video he says his splits for the 14th and 15th miles are 5:37 and 5:34. That'd be 20.9k-24.1k. He surged at 21.1k when he saw the HM split.
So we're to believe he was running ~5:35 pace from 21.1k-24.1k, but then split 5:42 pace (official split) for 21.1k-25k? The data doesn't show a blowup at 24k like this.
His 25k-30k split is 5:44 pace.
The official race splits give a much different impression than the video does.
The race splits actually show a perfectly paced attempt to negative split to a sub 2:30. Through the first half in 1:15:31. Then the next 9k are right on 2:30:00 pace. Leaving the last 12k to make up the 30 seconds.
So maybe he thought he was on 2:28 pace, then at the half when he realized he wasn't, he tried to surge. He thought he did speed up significantly, but he didn't in reality. Then he held on to 2:30 pace through 30k. And faded in the last 12k.
He's painting this like he took a big swing at 2:28 and blew up because of it. Which I think is what he intended to do and actually thinks he did. But the official splits tell the story of a perfectly paced attempt at a 2:30 which got out of reach at the 30k point. Is there any better scenario for Floberg? Thinking he's running faster than he is and accidentally pacing correctly?
Only to fade anyway :( Can't change the fact that he wasn't physiologically prepared to run a 2:30.
He needs to beg John Davis to coach him. That's the exact kind of training he'd benefit from right now.
Why on earth target 2:28 instead of a 2:31 PR, or even 2:30 or 2:29:59? The hubris is unreal, yet somehow completely believable.
Everyone knows GPS goes haywire at the start of Chicago. You’re supposed to pace off the mile or 5 km markers. How has someone who’s run Chicago multiple times still not figured that out?
He hit halfway in 75:31, then claimed he picked it up before blowing up. His fastest stretch of the entire race was from 21.1 km to 25 km at 5:42 per mile. Even that’s not 2:28:xx pace, and it cooked him.
If he’d gone through halfway around 74:20, he wouldn’t have gotten a PR as he would have blown up even harder. Thinking he could run 2:28:xx was pure delusion.
All that time on the one car garage treadmill he shilled for did him no service at all. I mean for a hipster photographer with no athletic background as far as I can tell from his youth he has done perfectly well - commendable without a doubt. However he is in the peak marathon age range now. Don't think this will be sustainable much longer what with a wife and four, count em, four kids to pay for.
- A watch he doesn't know how to properly use and, according to him, blew up his marathon.
- A treadmill that he does too many workouts on that hinders his ability to perceive marathon pace.
- A nutrition sponsor that leaves him throwing up in the middle of every race.
- A training app that overpredicts his fitness by 7 minutes.
- A plain white bandit singlet that looks like any standard blank singlet.
As always, the lesson is one that is the central thesis of this thread: If you have competitive running goals, being an influencer just isn't worth it.
A year or so ago, one of his vids got recommended to me and I started watching some. Then I stopped for the reasons you mention.
Then I found this thread and now I'm delightfully hate watching lol.
literally same. found blowberg 2 years ago. actually enjoyed it, was new, he wasn't insufferable. then it's like you continue to watch the videos, he gets more full of himself, tries to make everything way over the top, and just starts selling himself out for money through running and it becomes so easy to really dislike the guy, what he does, and how he acts. i can't even bring to hate watch myself anymore as his videos are so annoying. i just will look at the strava to balk at the stupidity of his training and the insane comments his followers continue to leave. the youtube videos are too aggravating for me to look at.
will this guy ever lose his audience? how are they still this invested and suck up to him so much with the things they write? wild. i really wish eric would tell us if he knows he's being a fake and acting so hard for the camera to pretend he loves the running community and is so happy, or if he'll just live in internal denial and continue to make 40 minute videos with an artsy spin for then next decade. can't wait to see this clown fall off lol
I cannot believe there are people like this out there who idolize Floberg:
literally same. found blowberg 2 years ago. actually enjoyed it, was new, he wasn't insufferable. then it's like you continue to watch the videos, he gets more full of himself, tries to make everything way over the top, and just starts selling himself out for money through running and it becomes so easy to really dislike the guy, what he does, and how he acts. i can't even bring to hate watch myself anymore as his videos are so annoying. i just will look at the strava to balk at the stupidity of his training and the insane comments his followers continue to leave. the youtube videos are too aggravating for me to look at.
will this guy ever lose his audience? how are they still this invested and suck up to him so much with the things they write? wild. i really wish eric would tell us if he knows he's being a fake and acting so hard for the camera to pretend he loves the running community and is so happy, or if he'll just live in internal denial and continue to make 40 minute videos with an artsy spin for then next decade. can't wait to see this clown fall off lol
I cannot believe there are people like this out there who idolize Floberg:
Flew too close to the sun today and got a bit burnt! I tested my body and fell a bit short but so fucking proud of the progress and cannot believe the atmosphere and all the incredible runners I got to share the road with. Tr...
I just watched the Phily reel on the gram. It’s a miracle, Phily joyfully throws away the crutches she’s been going around on! It was almost as if she were using them for theatrical effect.
Her claim is that the medical professionals made a mistake. The MRI she had, normally the gold standard, failed her this time.
My guess is the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don’t think she completely fabricated an injury. That being said, I think she overplayed it. In retrospect, she said she logged onto a portal to get her MRI results, but she did not film this, provide screen shots, or footage of any professionals advising her. Perhaps someone in the know could share how seemingly a radiologist and her two physios (UK & US) could all quickly come to the same incorrect conclusion?
Either way, it’s good she is back running, and the journey continues.
Anyway, we need to wait a few days while she thinks of what to say and brutally jump-cuts the deep dive. Perhaps some more concrete evidence will be provided.
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If you look at his Strava neither the pace ( which of course fluctuates due to bad GPS, but looks identical to the first half ) nor his HR indicates any kind of surge for the 2 miles after the half as he claims.
I don't get why he thinks the convoluted story of how he failed a 2:28 attempt would be any more appealing than trying to sensibly pace a 2:30 and failing at the end.
If you look at his Strava neither the pace ( which of course fluctuates due to bad GPS, but looks identical to the first half ) nor his HR indicates any kind of surge for the 2 miles after the half as he claims.
I don't get why he thinks the convoluted story of how he failed a 2:28 attempt would be any more appealing than trying to sensibly pace a 2:30 and failing at the end.
In the end his training approach just wasn't it
Flobergs training appears to be based on the fact he needed to work on his aerobic base. How did he and his coach come to this conclusion?
If he'd ran something like a 15:15 5k or 32:00 10k but then was struggling in the marathon then I'd see their plan, but we have no idea if Floberg has the speed because he never ever runs anything other than HM and marathons. I mean he doesn't even run a rep longer than a mile most of the time
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