Dude, stop posting Snope nonsense here. It's for 5th graders.If you can actually read, which I doubt, snope says that California did not pass a low that allows illegals to vote. It does not say that illegals don't vote."While it’s true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver’s license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote."Even their claim that California did not pass a law that explicitly allows illegals to vote has critics. The critics claim that it has too many loopholes.
Sexfighter wrote:
Nope.
http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
In California, it's an automatic voter registration when getting a drivers license with no verification of citizenship either. Libs and their mental disorders keep getting worse.
Obama is all-in for illegals voting: "When you vote, you are a citizen."
huh?????
You are a liar. You only included part of the sentence, which does not end with the word "citizen". You also left out the full context of the question and answer.
Obama was addressing fears that a citizen who votes might risk having his undocumented family members investigated.
This article is full of opinions and no facts. The article is design to paint the republicans as wanting voter id to suppress voters. The argument that voter id (the end game) will fix all voting issues is very similar to the leftist view that single payer (end game) will fix all the healthcare issues. There was no Bush investigation. Several US attorneys refused to cooperated and were fired, which then caused Bush AG to resign. Another political witch hunt. Yes, this is what leftists do.The article is very confusing. It bundles all kinds of investigations into one to confuse readers (typical leftist sh*t). For example, Justin Levitt investigated voter impersonation claims and found "31 incidents out of one billion ballots". Then these numbers are used to claim there is no voter fraud.There have been studies which find issues in several states (never California). Usually no one goes to jail, but the issues are fixed. For example, in Colorado 2013, an investigation found 100 voters voted illegally, and one, was convicted.There have been several attempts to study voter fraud using surveys. At least one study, cited by Trump, shows evidence of malfeasance. Of course, this study is attacked by the leftist as usual.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/11/02/do-non-citizens-vote-in-u-s-elections-a-reply-to-our-critics/?utm_term=.fe50ac3826b3
Sexfighter wrote:
And nope:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/25/here-are-nine-major-investigations-on-voter-fraud-that-found-virtually-nothing/?utm_term=.df85c6452ee3
The Grand Poobah has declared CNN as Fraudulent News. Please, no more links to CNN.
NO, Obama was trying to motivate/entice them to vote and NOT worry about anything happening to them because if they were in the country, then they were considered citizens, therefore they could vote. YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!! and yes OBAMA SAID THAT!!!!!!!!!!!! You refute everyone's posts, but your own.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:In California, it's an automatic voter registration when getting a drivers license with no verification of citizenship either. Libs and their mental disorders keep getting worse.
Obama is all-in for illegals voting: "When you vote, you are a citizen."
huh?????
You are a liar. You only included part of the sentence, which does not end with the word "citizen". You also left out the full context of the question and answer.
Obama was addressing fears that a citizen who votes might risk having his undocumented family members investigated.
I love it. You just read my post and are scurrying to find something, anything, to make yourself sound intelligent by refuting what you know to be the truth. What a little weasel you are.
itsbaddude wrote:
Dude, stop posting Snope nonsense here. It's for 5th graders.
If you can actually read, which I doubt, snope says that California did not pass a low that allows illegals to vote. It does not say that illegals don't vote.
"While it’s true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver’s license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote."
Even their claim that California did not pass a law that explicitly allows illegals to vote has critics. The critics claim that it has too many loopholes.
Sexfighter wrote:Nope.
http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/
Dude, I LOVE your debate style.
First you say that getting a driver's license in CA automatically makes you eligible and registered to vote. When that is proven to be total BS you go to that old standby; "Some say..."
Yeah, and you are "some". Perfect! Absolutely bullet-proof argument.
Some say . . .
I love it!
If you were an illegal alien who could be deported at anytime, would you risk registering and voting.
I think not.
You're not older and wiser. You're dense and dumb. Obama announced it and may it perfectly clear, crystal clear, that they could vote and have no chance of being deported and he did that for one reason, he wanted their votes because he needed them. This board is full of morons!
older and wiser wrote:
If you were an illegal alien who could be deported at anytime, would you risk registering and voting.
I think not.
MSU Alum wrote:
NO, Obama was trying to motivate/entice them to vote and NOT worry about anything happening to them because if they were in the country, then they were considered citizens, therefore they could vote. YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!! and yes OBAMA SAID THAT!!!!!!!!!!!! You refute everyone's posts, but your own.
Fat hurts wrote:You are a liar. You only included part of the sentence, which does not end with the word "citizen". You also left out the full context of the question and answer.
Obama was addressing fears that a citizen who votes might risk having his undocumented family members investigated.
That's hilarious. You obviously spend your time watching breitbart and then breathlessly repeating what you heard.
Good job!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLLt-a6dI_0Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:In California, it's an automatic voter registration when getting a drivers license with no verification of citizenship either. Libs and their mental disorders keep getting worse.
Obama is all-in for illegals voting: "When you vote, you are a citizen."
huh?????
You are a liar. You only included part of the sentence, which does not end with the word "citizen". You also left out the full context of the question and answer.
Obama was addressing fears that a citizen who votes might risk having his undocumented family members investigated.
Of course, illegals in CA voted. Governor Moonbeam Brown stated publicly that illegals aliens should vote- and they did.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:You are a liar. You only included part of the sentence, which does not end with the word "citizen". You also left out the full context of the question and answer.
Obama was addressing fears that a citizen who votes might risk having his undocumented family members investigated.
Of course, illegals in CA voted. Governor Moonbeam Brown stated publicly that illegals aliens should vote- and they did.
Funny how a complete fabrication by Trump to sooth his ego after losing the popular vote has fueled so much conversation. This is exactly what the establishment wants.
Don't talk about healthcare or the tax plan, don't even bother reading it. Focus on illegals and how much you hate the liberal media, things that don't tangibly impact you but make you emotional. Nice work, Mr. President. We might be able to pull off a regressive tax system while you got their emotions all aroused.
Please think before you post. I have no idea what you are replying to. I just pointed out what Snopes claim is. I also pointed out that the claim is not even true due to loopholes. Should I use a bigger font?
Sum Say wrote:
itsbaddude wrote:Dude, stop posting Snope nonsense here. It's for 5th graders.
If you can actually read, which I doubt, snope says that California did not pass a low that allows illegals to vote. It does not say that illegals don't vote.
"While it’s true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver’s license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote."
Even their claim that California did not pass a law that explicitly allows illegals to vote has critics. The critics claim that it has too many loopholes.
Dude, I LOVE your debate style.
First you say that getting a driver's license in CA automatically makes you eligible and registered to vote. When that is proven to be total BS you go to that old standby; "Some say..."
Yeah, and you are "some". Perfect! Absolutely bullet-proof argument.
Some say . . .
I love it!
itsbaddude wrote:
There was no Bush investigation. Several US attorneys refused to cooperated and were fired, which then caused Bush AG to resign.
Where did you get that stupid idea? Do you also think the moon landing didn't happen?
Here is a fact sheet release by the Department of Justice in 2006 that summarized the findings of the Bush investigation:
https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2006/July/06_crt_468.htmlRigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:You are a liar. You only included part of the sentence, which does not end with the word "citizen". You also left out the full context of the question and answer.
Obama was addressing fears that a citizen who votes might risk having his undocumented family members investigated.
Of course, illegals in CA voted. Governor Moonbeam Brown stated publicly that illegals aliens should vote- and they did.
Of course, pigs in CA flew. Governor Moonbeam Brown stated publicly that pigs should fly- and they did.
When Bush tried to investigate this is what happened. The AGs where fired for failing to investigate. Of course, the AGs claimed there was nothing to investigated. Then the USAG had to resign.The article you posted is the work in progress during that time.The Leftist, including the same cast of characters (Mr. Fake Tears) were joyous that Bush caved in to leftist pressure. I don't think it will happen with Trump.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/13/AR2007051301106.html
Fat hurts wrote:
itsbaddude wrote:There was no Bush investigation. Several US attorneys refused to cooperated and were fired, which then caused Bush AG to resign.
Where did you get that stupid idea? Do you also think the moon landing didn't happen?
Here is a fact sheet release by the Department of Justice in 2006 that summarized the findings of the Bush investigation:
https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2006/July/06_crt_468.html
From the CA Voter Registration website, page 42
VI. Voter Registration Cards where the voter indicates he or she is not a U.S. Citizen:
The VRC asks the applicant if he or she is a United States citizen. The voter may check either “Yesâ€, “Noâ€, or not check either box.
If the voter indicates, by checking the “yes†box, that he or she is a U.S. citizen, the registration should be processed normally.
If the voter indicates, by checking the “No†box, that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, the registration may not be entered on the voter rolls. The elections official should send the voter a returnable card or letter requesting clarification as to whether or not the voter is a U.S. citizen. If the voter returns the card indicating that he or she is a U.S. citizen, the VRC should be entered on the voter rolls. If the card is returned and the voter indicates he or she is not a citizen, or if no response is received from the voter, then the voter shall not be registered.
If the voter does not check either the “Yes†or “No†box, and the registration is otherwise complete, the registration should be processed normally and entered on the voter rolls.
Ding, ding, ding. Game, set, match. You lose libs. Illegals easily slide into the voter rolls through this massive loophole.
http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/nvra/laws-standards/pdf/complete.pdf