Robert Young fakes run across America

presser of F5 wrote:

Somewhere deep in this thread, someone had found a TomTom account and Strava account for Robert Young, but I don't think it had any data in there for anything. Basically, an empty account, if I remember right. Anyone know the links to those?

If you're on Strava you can do an athlete search to find it (and yes it was empty). There is also a Rob Young parody account that has his "run" through the desert produced with the info from team.kml

well i explained this whole thread to a friend.her response. "maybe he beoke his foot jumping out of the RV"

Exactly! It would be corporate suicide for Skins to release the data if they continue to stand by Rob Young. My guess is Skins will continue with the "deny deny deny" routine until LRCers get sick of this thread and the whole thing blows over.

Or... wrote:

Why not wait until they provide their data before passing judgement?

Look deeply into Jaime Fuller's bio and history. If there's a question to the legitimacy of this run after all data is provided and reviewed, Mr Fuller will act appropriately. His record speaks for itself.

I don't know Mr. Fuller, but if I know a cheat, we will never see the data release. And precisely for the reason you illustrate. Because people already love them and give them the benefit of the doubt. "Wait until you see all the data before you judge", which will never happen, hence there will never be any judgement. See how that works? It's the perfect strategy for them.

How are we doing on Mike Rossi's GPS and cell phone locations? /s

I realize I am waaay late to this thread. I am curious why this point has not come up yet. When I watched the video of the runner/crack whore in the car wash video, my first impression was "that's not him, the gait's not right." I realize that it's tough comparing running style to walking style, but I felt like the person in the tape toed out while they walked, while RY ran with toes straight or the right foot toed slightly in. Anyone with experience in running form analysis with thoughts on this?

Post your outrage!!!

In the op/ed, Fuller referred to Lance Armstrong as not being a cheater. And basically, the entire piece was to say that Dustin Johnson the golfer was unfairly judged and not believed by PGA officials, and now Robert Young is being unfairly judged and not believed by letsrun. It was a simple allegory to say, they're going to stand by their endorsed athlete, but without throwing gas on the fire by actually mentioning him by name.

Fuller has a tough decision to make. He must either defend Team Scam or cut himself completely off from them. Neither is an easy thing to do and has many corporate risks for Skins as a company. But that's why you get paid the big bucks as CEO, to make difficult decisions like this.

Bunny Fastard wrote:

presser of F5 wrote:

Somewhere deep in this thread, someone had found a TomTom account and Strava account for Robert Young, but I don't think it had any data in there for anything. Basically, an empty account, if I remember right. Anyone know the links to those?

If you're on Strava you can do an athlete search to find it (and yes it was empty). There is also a Rob Young parody account that has his "run" through the desert produced with the info from team.kml

I'm not on Strava or TomTom. Only Garmin connect.

They underestimate this forum, then.

Please, Rojo, we need another challenge for charity, like the one you gave to Rossi. You don't have to offer him money to recreate the first several weeks of his challenge, even though there's zero chance that he can complete it if you stipulate that >90% of his individual run segments have to be completed within 5% of his previous claimed times.

You could probably offer him 10K simply for replicating one of his most ridiculous splits. Correct me if I'm wrong, but people here have claimed that some of them were close to WR pace. Make him run a world-class 50 or 100 mile time SUPERVISED. He claims to be a super-human world-class runner. Make him prove it! You could offer him money for running 374 miles (or whatever it was) in the same amount of time or less as he did in his WR.

You could offer him 10K to run within 10% of his claimed 10 km personal best of 30:XX or 68 minutes for the half. Stipulate that he has to notify you before any attempt at a challenge so that it can be properly monitored to your satisfaction.

You could offer him money for immediately releasing the files from his watch. I don't know if I'd do that one, as there has been lots of time to tamper with the data by now. Probably the tampering would be obvious, though.

You could offer a couple Gs for anyone who can come up with another video showing the RV traveling at running pace without Rob nearby....

I must say that most of the articles about Robert Young's cheating have been very unsatisfactory, thus far. None of them, that I can recall have delved into his history of lies and fraud. Some have cast him in a sympathetic light, as a charity runner who survived childhood abuse. Like Rossi, a well-written article with monetary challenges by you guys can bring this narcissistic scammer and his accomplices to his knees. You may also want to mention SKINS, since they increasingly appear to be accomplices in this fraud.

Doooo it!

Here's the link to the article again. Keep leaving comments!

This doesn't look fake, but doesn't look used much. Only one run, from 2014: https://www.strava.com/athletes/5258354

triathleteguru wrote:

This doesn't look fake, but doesn't look used much. Only one run, from 2014:

https://www.strava.com/athletes/5258354

That's it. Anyone have the TomTom account?

RY keeps saying he'll release the data. Well, these are the two places we should expect to see it, should it ever be released. Keep an eye on those accounts.

They will wait it out, no question. That's the easiest and lowest-risk strategy. Don't forget we make up like 2% of the running community, no one else cares.

Yes. Offer him the $$$ if he runs 30 miles through the night to Bannock, CA, then leave there at 8:19AM and he has until 12:52 to play a game of roulette and go to the pool in Laughlin. Unsupported, no ultra vest for hydration, nothing he didn't have then.

I like the bounty for cheating evidence. Get this all over the press. Somebody else gave him a ride on May 18, I know it. This Speicher guy will flip in a second if he thinks he's going to lose his job. There has to be other car wash security footage out there.

RYinvestigator wrote:

Check Rob's oldest Facebook cover picture:

https://www.facebook.com/marathonmanuk/photos/a.612636545487274.1073741827.612632838820978/612636502153945/?type=3&theater

This is a picture from April 16 2014. It has 2700 likes. Their names are all very foreign. This means that only days after his first marathon, Rob was already buying likes.

Nothing foreign about Alvina Badalyan.

Looks like she's a fashion model: 2nd row, lace sleeve top, reduced price. Perhaps a Turkish fashion model?

Howard Dean Rojo wrote:

Why'd you change your name?

To make it why'der.

Skins problem wrote:

Link to screen shots of the comments thus far on Jaimie's blog (in case they are removed):

http://imgur.com/a/hedPi

Good backup. You might want to add the additional ones.

Michael Speicher who is half of the two-man crew of Team Scam in the RV is the digital marketer for Skins. He has the tech know how to tinker with all the comments and the website.

If anyone wants to help find more video of a ghost RV. They can explain it away once but not multiple times.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GLsAfGQDdpZbE-Ky2FklFbarNyenbCdhWAUXXCyTq5s/edit?usp=sharing

I was specifically looking at this stretch. The dude covers 50 miles in 7 hours overnight, then 17 miles over the next 11 daylight hours, then back to 61 miles overnight in 8.5 hours, then ... repeats. You get the idea. He is avoiding the sun you are just JEALOUS lets see you get out there and attempt this record!! /s

http://seejohnrun.com/257miles.html

Racergirl wrote:

... in mid 2007 RY was telling his friends he was riding in the 'team car' for the TdF (FB posts from 2007 - only his friends' replies are visible, not his original posts). ...

This is why his career as a domestique was so short. The team told him he wasn't allowed to ride in the car.

can't think of a catchy name wrote:

I realize I am waaay late to this thread. I am curious why this point has not come up yet. When I watched the video of the runner/crack whore in the car wash video, my first impression was "that's not him, the gait's not right." I realize that it's tough comparing running style to walking style, but I felt like the person in the tape toed out while they walked, while RY ran with toes straight or the right foot toed slightly in. Anyone with experience in running form analysis with thoughts on this?

Yeah we all know that is either a crack whore or a 70 year old with 2 hips and 2 knees replaced. Looks like quite the limp. And effeminate arm swing. And looks like very baggy sweatshirt/pants.

In summary, not a man in the middle of a 35 mile 9/min pace run as his TomTom screenshot claims...