I don't know much about this new legislation, but generally due to the supremacy clause (doctrine of pre-emption), federal laws take precedence when there is conflicting legislation. State law can be followed but federal enforcement would make the federal law prevail. I guess my initial question is whether this specific legislation is in direct conflict with an existing federal law?
Trollminator wrote:
This stuff about Bolton is totally insane from the right. Every single person who has gone against trump has endured the same systematic conspiracy slinging BS. They all have to just default to being deep state operatives, because how could they ever have faulted trump???
The conspiracy nuts are doing some fantastic gyrations to keep trump's circus going. I'm saying it's ineffective because a lot of people love this kind of stuff and just eat it right up.
Yes, but they are having trouble with this one.
It's very hard to paint John Bolton as part of the Deep State. He's a genuine right wing hero and card-carrying member of the foreign policy anti-establishment.
To follow up a second time, the president can't pardon a state conviction.
Pence & Erdogan pose for photo. Pence looks like he’s already done a little time in a turkish prison. They changed his mind, ha ha.
Trollminator wrote:
I don't know much about this new legislation, but generally due to the supremacy clause (doctrine of pre-emption), federal laws take precedence when there is conflicting legislation. State law can be followed but federal enforcement would make the federal law prevail. I guess my initial question is whether this specific legislation is in direct conflict with an existing federal law?
It could probably be taken up with the Supreme Court if anyone really wanted to. Prosecutors would really need to sell damage done to the state
Fat hurts wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
This stuff about Bolton is totally insane from the right. Every single person who has gone against trump has endured the same systematic conspiracy slinging BS. They all have to just default to being deep state operatives, because how could they ever have faulted trump???
The conspiracy nuts are doing some fantastic gyrations to keep trump's circus going. I'm saying it's ineffective because a lot of people love this kind of stuff and just eat it right up.
It's very hard to paint John Bolton as part of the Deep State.
Uh, you sure about that? Bolton has been a DC swamp rat since the first Reagan administration. Remember that Trump's base is just as against "RINOs" and other Republicans they feel have betrayed them or are beholden to the status quo as they are against Democrats.
They can’t stop Sondland, so State is just refusing to hand over the docs that show he wasn’t involved.
Sally Vix wrote:
Yavapai wrote:
In real life, unless you are wearing Trump gear, we don't know if you are a dumba**. Here, you make it crystal clear
Again, you act like a hardass here. When in real life you would never come up to me and act like that. Isn't that true? You would never come up to me in real life and say those things?
Listen old man, if in real life you were saying the stupid shi!t to me that you spout here, damn right I would tell you how stupid you are.
Sally Vix wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Cuomo is definitely an idiot. He obviously did not think this through. First, to really attempt to punish people retroactively. That is absurd. But, second, and much more importantly, there is something called the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution. When state laws conflict with federal laws, the federal law supersedes the state law. Federal laws are the "Supreme law of the land." So long as the federal law is valid (constitutional), the state law is inferior to the federal law.
To follow up, if federal law did not supersede state law, the federal government would effectively cease to exist since any single state could overrule federal law. And state could enact legislation to overrule federal law and what would we have? No central federal government.
You Conservatives are such hypocrites. You scream Power to the States until there's a self-serving reason for you not to.
Sally, Ghost is on another trumper thread; your friends have surrendered because they know fat boy’s finished.
Yesterday I read something that made me laugh.
White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham described the meeting on Wednesday saying that,
"The President was measured, factual and decisive"!
Has anyone, Trump supporter or critic ever, ever know Trump to be, "measured, factual and decisive" in anything?
That must have been hard to say with a straight face.
Yeah, Pelosi finally admitted the inquiry will continue if trump stonewalls...
Means the R’s will have to surrender, just like with nixon.
Conundrum wrote:
Yesterday I read something that made me laugh.
White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham described the meeting on Wednesday saying that,
"The President was measured, factual and decisive"!
Has anyone, Trump supporter or critic ever, ever know Trump to be, "measured, factual and decisive" in anything?
That must have been hard to say with a straight face.
Most of tweets are factual, measured and decisive .
Just kidding!
Fox & Friends hosts deflate after legal analyst shoots down latest GOP impeachment talking point
http://va.topbuzz.com/s/NmdQkk
PLEASE STOP REPEATING THE NONSENSE CLAIMING A VOTE IS REQUIRED. Republicans changed the rules a few years ago and now they want to ignore the change that THEY made. You can’t make this sh*t up.
Factual: “I’m fvcked!” (Mueller Report)
Measured: “This is how deep a hole I’m digging for myself...” (holding tape measure)
Decisive: “The US will never be a socialist country...” (as long as no one finds my subsidies from putin)
800gal wrote:
Fox & Friends hosts deflate after legal analyst shoots down latest GOP impeachment talking point
http://va.topbuzz.com/s/NmdQkkPLEASE STOP REPEATING THE NONSENSE CLAIMING A VOTE IS REQUIRED. Republicans changed the rules a few years ago and now they want to ignore the change that THEY made. You can’t make this sh*t up.
the other point is that while the house voted for the inquiry for the Clinton impeachment...that vote took place AFTER the Star report was done and all the facts were in.
Now we don't have all the facts, so a vote is not as clearly logical. Still gathering facts.
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
It's very hard to paint John Bolton as part of the Deep State.
Uh, you sure about that? Bolton has been a DC swamp rat since the first Reagan administration. Remember that Trump's base is just as against "RINOs" and other Republicans they feel have betrayed them or are beholden to the status quo as they are against Democrats.
Uh, yes, I'm pretty sure about that.
He's been a bomb-thrower. Definitely not seen as part of the establishment.
Mick Mulvaney “press conference” any minute!
Better you than me, mick!
agip wrote:
the other point is that while the house voted for the inquiry for the Clinton impeachment...that vote took place AFTER the Star report was done and all the facts were in.
Now we don't have all the facts, so a vote is not as clearly logical. Still gathering facts.
Dems shouldn't even go there though, no good reason to. Through their greed the GOP changed the rules and now seeing karma play out. Dems need to be vicious and brutal in this game, not even giving an inch. Trump is losing his mind every single day not being able to stay ahead of the developments. Every single day he can only wait and react to the fallout. The meltdowns will worsen and he will isolate himself further.