It has skyrocketed since you posted it wouldn't, just a few years ago here on the messageboards.
But I wish it would crash and burn, so I don't know why you are asking me. I don't like it due to it being bad sustainably (energy hog).
I do prefer Etherium, which is much less bad in that regard.
In answer, though, like I said, I hate bitcoin. We're on the same side in that regard.
You might say I was returning the favor. Just a little reminder of your rather nasty Bitcoin posts of just a few weeks ago. You seem offended that I might dish it back in your face.
Many things changed since my years ago Bitcoin posts, including the enormous national, corporate, personal debt, and resulting inflation that will never be eliminated. I have often commented on the same in the intervening years. But you focus on one particular part of the story. You believe the markets should operate in a vacuum. Of course many feel the same way.
My views are shared by more than a handful of respected market commentators; we all have been shamed for being wrong the past decade. And like me, most believe we will be vindicated over the long run.
It has skyrocketed since you posted it wouldn't, just a few years ago here on the messageboards.
But I wish it would crash and burn, so I don't know why you are asking me. I don't like it due to it being bad sustainably (energy hog).
I do prefer Etherium, which is much less bad in that regard.
In answer, though, like I said, I hate bitcoin. We're on the same side in that regard.
You might say I was returning the favor. Just a little reminder of your rather nasty Bitcoin posts of just a few weeks ago. You seem offended that I might dish it back in your face.
Many things changed since my years ago Bitcoin posts, including the enormous national, corporate, personal debt, and resulting inflation that will never be eliminated. I have often commented on the same in the intervening years. But you focus on one particular part of the story. You believe the markets should operate in a vacuum. Of course many feel the same way.
My views are shared by more than a handful of respected market commentators; we all have been shamed for being wrong the past decade. And like me, most believe we will be vindicated over the long run.
All the so-called market commentators/"experts" were way off last year and again with this year. Why would anyone listen to them when they are so wrong time and time again?
It has skyrocketed since you posted it wouldn't, just a few years ago here on the messageboards.
But I wish it would crash and burn, so I don't know why you are asking me. I don't like it due to it being bad sustainably (energy hog).
I do prefer Etherium, which is much less bad in that regard.
In answer, though, like I said, I hate bitcoin. We're on the same side in that regard.
You might say I was returning the favor. Just a little reminder of your rather nasty Bitcoin posts of just a few weeks ago. You seem offended that I might dish it back in your face.
Many things changed since my years ago Bitcoin posts, including the enormous national, corporate, personal debt, and resulting inflation that will never be eliminated. I have often commented on the same in the intervening years. But you focus on one particular part of the story. You believe the markets should operate in a vacuum. Of course many feel the same way.
My views are shared by more than a handful of respected market commentators; we all have been shamed for being wrong the past decade. And like me, most believe we will be vindicated over the long run.
I don't know what to tell you.
Some forecasters were better able to accurately read the full scope of factors which might bear on particular investments and trade accordingly.
There are many to take into the equation including the boom in retail investing, discount brokers, no-commission trading, the broadening of availability for crypto ownership and trading, alternative trading platforms that were very broad based like Robinhood, and all the ones you mentioned.
In terms of bitcoin, it has kicked butt on the up side. Sure, it has some pullbacks, but overall, it has outperformed the stock market.
I'm not happy about that, but that is irrelevant. Those who said it wouldn't appreciate were just wrong.
I feel like we are starting to slip a little, like a drop could be on the horizon. Just a tingle right now, but feeling it more than any other time in the previous six months. Anyone else sensing this? Seems like the market has just gone up and up and up over the last 2 years minus the tariff scare this past spring. Berkshire Hathaway now has more money in cash than in actively managed stocks, $381 million vs $257 million. BH has been hoarding cash for awhile... Seems reminiscent of Michael Burry before the 2008 crash. Years of waiting before the big drop.
Why would anyone trust any "experts?" I am astounded that any investor would put any stock into some random investor "expert." 90% are terribly wrong. Why would you listen to any market "expert?" Most are bears and are wrong 90% of the time. Hussman wrong maybe 98% of the time. They are snake oil salesmen.
Why would anyone trust any "experts?" I am astounded that any investor would put any stock into some random investor "expert." 90% are terribly wrong. Why would you listen to any market "expert?" Most are bears and are wrong 90% of the time. Hussman wrong maybe 98% of the time. They are snake oil salesmen.
Yet you embrace and parrot every financial industry marketing scheme. Never seen anything like it.
I feel like we are starting to slip a little, like a drop could be on the horizon. Just a tingle right now, but feeling it more than any other time in the previous six months. Anyone else sensing this? Seems like the market has just gone up and up and up over the last 2 years minus the tariff scare this past spring. Berkshire Hathaway now has more money in cash than in actively managed stocks, $381 million vs $257 million. BH has been hoarding cash for awhile... Seems reminiscent of Michael Burry before the 2008 crash. Years of waiting before the big drop.
BILLION, not million. Not used to writing about billions of dollars I guess. Having nearly $400 BILLION sitting on the sidelines is pretty outrageous. I know Warren said it's only because they can't find any good deals... Maybe that means basically everything is overpriced, but I have to think they're anticipating a drop also.
The current Buffett indicator is approximately 219.9% (as of November 15, 2025), indicating that the total U.S. stock market value is significantly overvalued relative to the Gross Domestic Product (GDP). This high level is among the highest on record and suggests the market is currently valued far above its historical trend line, with some analyses using data from late September or early October 2025 placing it even higher, around 220% to 230%.
Indicator value: Approximately 219.9%
Calculation: The ratio of the total U.S. stock market's value to the nation's GDP
Historical context: The current reading is well above the historical median of about 80.3% and has reached some of the highest levels on record.
Implication: A ratio above 100% is generally considered overvalued, and the current level suggests the market may be "playing with fire," as Warren Buffett once stated.
Contributing factors: The surge is attributed to strong performance in large-cap stocks and AI-related enthusiasm, which has pushed market capitalization up faster than GDP growth.
Why would anyone trust any "experts?" I am astounded that any investor would put any stock into some random investor "expert." 90% are terribly wrong. Why would you listen to any market "expert?" Most are bears and are wrong 90% of the time. Hussman wrong maybe 98% of the time. They are snake oil salesmen.
Yet you embrace and parrot every financial industry marketing scheme. Never seen anything like it.
And yet my stock market predictions have blown away those of John Hussman. Yes?
In a single stock short, when is it time to get out of the crashing underlying company?
Tried a quick trade in that one today for a profit. Thx.
Sure. I would like to get back into it, but not at these levels. Though it could be a huge winner in a Bitcoin crash. Say under $90,000. Though thinking a rebound back to $107,000 possible. So gamble either way.
Tried a quick trade in that one today for a profit. Thx.
Sure. I would like to get back into it, but not at these levels. Though it could be a huge winner in a Bitcoin crash. Say under $90,000. Though thinking a rebound back to $107,000 possible. So gamble either way.
that stuff is too volatile and unhinged for me, and so I would only trade it on a very short duration.
Sure. I would like to get back into it, but not at these levels. Though it could be a huge winner in a Bitcoin crash. Say under $90,000. Though thinking a rebound back to $107,000 possible. So gamble either way.
that stuff is too volatile and unhinged for me, and so I would only trade it on a very short duration.
Michael Saylor seems crazy to me, and he has a history of shaded dealings. As I said in an earlier post my trade was more about him than just Bitcoin.
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