Unfortunately this is par for the course for YouTube coaches. A friend was in the Bester cult and pretty much had same feedback. They also went on a training camp and said he was insufferable and basically did his own training all week as the participants in the camp were too slow for him
I will run a 5k block next. I'm in 14:30 shape, Jeff told me so. I just need to do some more work on my abs.
I ran an 8 mile run on the mill last night, and man, that HR was so low. My kids and wife watched. They were mesmorized by the HR. "Are you sure you're ok, honey? That HR is dangerously low" said my wife. So freaking fit, man.
I made sure to run shirtless and I know they love to see the abs. Core memory. Such a privilege.
I need to spend a week or so editing my race video. I used to have an editor but like my cameraman, "My boy" Clark, Matt Fox, Kofuzi, and basically anyone I've ever come in contact with they leave me, I don't know why.
Man, I just love this community.
Time to sit in a tree and contemplate life.
Bro this was the first block with tree and Sabriah time (though to be honest much more tree time bc I think the tree tolerates you more). And it resulted in a big 7 second pb on a flat course with ideal conditions. Just double down on tree and and sabriah time next block and you will def be knocking on sub 2:30. Also make sure your boy Nick sends you some good “supplements” to aid with recovery.
I will run a 5k block next. I'm in 14:30 shape, Jeff told me so. I just need to do some more work on my abs.
I ran an 8 mile run on the mill last night, and man, that HR was so low. My kids and wife watched. They were mesmorized by the HR. "Are you sure you're ok, honey? That HR is dangerously low" said my wife. So freaking fit, man.
I made sure to run shirtless and I know they love to see the abs. Core memory. Such a privilege.
I need to spend a week or so editing my race video. I used to have an editor but like my cameraman, "My boy" Clark, Matt Fox, Kofuzi, and basically anyone I've ever come in contact with they leave me, I don't know why.
Man, I just love this community.
Time to sit in a tree and contemplate life.
Bro this was the first block with tree and Sabriah time (though to be honest much more tree time bc I think the tree tolerates you more). And it resulted in a big 7 second pb on a flat course with ideal conditions.
I feel bad for Sabriah. I bet she wishes he never ran a marathon at times.
Check out donata aka poetwithpace's new video of the Manchester half. It's a humdinger, oh yes, with one of the zaniest characters in the running YouTuber sphere, and I believe one of the original running youtubers going back nearly a decade, and has over 10k subs which speaks for itself
Every guy I’ve known that racks 100mpw and can run a 1:12 during the build has been close or broken 2:30, myself included.
A 72:13 half five weeks out isn't indicative of sub-2:30.
But let's be generous and say he was in 71:30 shape fully tapered. By Vdot, that's worth about 2:29:30, assuming you have adequately trained for the event. A skim through Floberg's Strava over the last two months and I can't find a session where he ran more than 6 consecutive miles at or around MP without some sort of float, rest, or puke break. It's a sea of half-mile/mile repeats.
When you frame it like it, his half performance, and inability to scale that up to the full marathon, makes more sense.
Even your basic Pfitz 70 plan has a 14 at pace for a PMP (with 8/10/12 building weeks before). I was kind of wondering why he spent so little time running pace. And all the puking on a low HR is nutso...
Bro this was the first block with tree and Sabriah time (though to be honest much more tree time bc I think the tree tolerates you more). And it resulted in a big 7 second pb on a flat course with ideal conditions.
I feel bad for Sabriah. I bet she wishes he never ran a marathon at times.
Forget about his sappy marathon vlogging Pimping her for content seems very wrong for starters.
I feel bad for Sabriah. I bet she wishes he never ran a marathon at times.
Forget about his sappy marathon vlogging Pimping her for content seems very wrong for starters.
He needs something for the audience to come back for. His average running certainly will lose appeal.
And it is average. Just go through the Chicago Marathon results. Heck even by Flo's age group. Hundreds of commoners with times like his and better. Page after page of similar results.
Commendable to go from near 4 hours to 2:32, but it is still top quartile of hobby joggers.
Someone posted earlier that he's got a stress fracture. He said on his strava that he was getting an MRI on his back, maybe sacral? He did ramp up pretty quickly after 4 months off. Wouldn't be surprised if the residual mental strain/stress of the ordeal hampered recovery. Luke, his podcast co-host, had a rough Chicago marathon, DNF.
Totally get this. Some of these people are so out of touch with reality.
PS. What’s Matt Fox up to these days?
Someone posted earlier that he's got a stress fracture. He said on his strava that he was getting an MRI on his back, maybe sacral? He did ramp up pretty quickly after 4 months off. Wouldn't be surprised if the residual mental strain/stress of the ordeal hampered recovery. Luke, his podcast co-host, had a rough Chicago marathon, DNF. EDIT: quoted, sorry.
Totally get this. Some of these people are so out of touch with reality.
PS. What’s Matt Fox up to these days?
Someone posted earlier that he's got a stress fracture. He said on his strava that he was getting an MRI on his back, maybe sacral? He did ramp up pretty quickly after 4 months off. Wouldn't be surprised if the residual mental strain/stress of the ordeal hampered recovery. Luke, his podcast co-host, had a rough Chicago marathon, DNF. EDIT: quoted, sorry.
Yeah from totally sedentary to 25, 40, 59, 65 mile weeks is a steep ramp. Not surprised he has a stress fracture.
I cannot believe Matt Fox still has “fans”. Are they just oblivious to how scummy of a human being he really is. Not even talking about running - his actual demeanor as a human being is horrendous lol. Surprised we’re even talking about him here. Are people not aware of his abusive, manipulative, scammy, and anti semitic history? Dude exiled himself from the entire Chicago running community. I don’t even know how he found someone to marry him with the way he functions and his apparent values.
There’s a couple threads on let’s run that basically expose how insane and disgusting he is. Dude is seriously a grade A narcissistic delusional nutjob. And this is completely ignoring the recent drug smuggling and being in jail in Japan lmao.
Would be so nice to just let him fade away and not be spoken of. Fox is legit one that I despise still has supporters. I truly hope no one is paying him for coaching if that stupid sweat elite business is still functioning.
Got to love the British media. One of the main newspapers ran this headline on its back page this morning along with the scathing write up which I think must be aimed at some of the commenters here.
Brilliant Ben Banishes Boorish Buffoons' broadsides'
British marathon superstar Ben Felton aka Benisrunning stunned his critics at the Chicago marathon today. Majestically gliding to a new PB of 2:23 on a hot, windy American morning. Fresh from his first sub 30, 10K a couple of weeks earlier, in what is now being called 'The Vitality Inferno 10K' Ben once again proved his detractors wrong.
On a day when the very air felt like dragon’s breath and the sun raged down with the fury of a thousand furnaces, he laced up his shoes, looked the heat straight in its molten eyes, and said, “Not today, Satan. I’ve got a PB to run.”
Whilst the likes of John Korir wilted in the heat and Kiplimo blew up spectacularly in the closing stages, Ben held firm to continue his upwards trajectory and add fuel to the conversations that he is marathon running's next big thing.
Its hard to see him not beating Connor Mantz in the coming years, cementing Britain's dominance over North America in the distance running hall of fame.
This was just the latest of a series of embarrassing predictions and climb downs made by the users of a well known running forum discussing running youtubers. Following on from incorrectly analysing Besters, Floberg's, Truett's, Rees' running capabilities (amongst others) .
Maybe its time to admit that the running youtubers they so love to mock, actually know more about running than they do.
I live in Brooklyn and am saddened to report that "Go One More" hat sightings have exponentially increased in the last year.
The other morning I saw a mid 20s guy, shirtless, in AlphaFlys with a chest heart-rate monitor jogging toward me with one of those camouflage Go One More hats with orange lettering. I basically stopped and did a complete double take when we passed each other. Thought I was hallucinating from reading this thread too often lmao.
Someone posted earlier that he's got a stress fracture. He said on his strava that he was getting an MRI on his back, maybe sacral? He did ramp up pretty quickly after 4 months off. Wouldn't be surprised if the residual mental strain/stress of the ordeal hampered recovery. Luke, his podcast co-host, had a rough Chicago marathon, DNF. EDIT: quoted, sorry.
Yeah from totally sedentary to 25, 40, 59, 65 mile weeks is a steep ramp. Not surprised he has a stress fracture.
Yeah and he admits to microdosing GLP-1s and has had a recent history of an unhealthy fixation on weight (which he talks about a lot publicly). He’s been extremely low energy the post-prison return on the podcast. Luke has carried the whole thing which has been an interesting dynamic shift. Hate to say I listen (2x speed while multitasking so in my mind it’s not a total waste of time lol). Wouldn’t be caught dead paying for the shareholders club he’s always promoting or whatever the hell though.
Unfortunately this is par for the course for YouTube coaches. A friend was in the Bester cult and pretty much had same feedback. They also went on a training camp and said he was insufferable and basically did his own training all week as the participants in the camp were too slow for him
To be fair (ish) to Bester on this one I don't think it's unreasonable that he mostly does his own running at these camps. Like, he is way way better than the runners in his team/club/cult - I don't think it would make much sense for him to be doing the same sessions, or doing them with these people. Just take a look at some of the pictures from his recent France retreat, clearly he's got very different performance goals from everyone else there. Although having seen him around races and reading around other comments and his general vibe I can absolutely believe he'd be a terrible person to be stuck living with for a week.
I would caveat the defence with why are you bothering to encourage some of these people on training camps? For someone who's absolutely maxing performance vs their work/life limitations it makes sense to want to go and be distraction free for a week or so. Skimming 10-15% off the booking fee from Joe Bloggs who's trying to run a sub 4 marathon off of 25-30mpw isn't this. At this point maybe you do have to ask if it's just a convoluted way of failing to beat the Battersea park swingers association rumours.
While we're talking Bester it's quite funny that despite being the founder of and having total control of his 'club' he hasn't bothered to sort out entry to any UK XC leagues - something that's quite a big part of the club culture for heaps of clubs up and down the country... So he's got to join some other club to be able to enter into a league, but for some reason he doesn't join one of the TWO decent competitive clubs in Winchester and enter into his home league, where he can race top level athletes from Bournemouth and Aldershot. I've race with/against Ellis Cross, Jack Rowe and Abdinassir Mohamoud Elmi (although there are rumours about him in local running whatsapps that suggest he might need to ask Matt Fox for tips on staying fit inside). Does he just hate spending time with his family? Come on man, just join your local club and do some local races if you need a second claim.
Unfortunately this is par for the course for YouTube coaches. A friend was in the Bester cult and pretty much had same feedback. They also went on a training camp and said he was insufferable and basically did his own training all week as the participants in the camp were too slow for him
To be fair (ish) to Bester on this one I don't think it's unreasonable that he mostly does his own running at these camps. Like, he is way way better than the runners in his team/club/cult - I don't think it would make much sense for him to be doing the same sessions, or doing them with these people. Just take a look at some of the pictures from his recent France retreat, clearly he's got very different performance goals from everyone else there. Although having seen him around races and reading around other comments and his general vibe I can absolutely believe he'd be a terrible person to be stuck living with for a week.
I would caveat the defence with why are you bothering to encourage some of these people on training camps? For someone who's absolutely maxing performance vs their work/life limitations it makes sense to want to go and be distraction free for a week or so. Skimming 10-15% off the booking fee from Joe Bloggs who's trying to run a sub 4 marathon off of 25-30mpw isn't this. At this point maybe you do have to ask if it's just a convoluted way of failing to beat the Battersea park swingers association rumours.
While we're talking Bester it's quite funny that despite being the founder of and having total control of his 'club' he hasn't bothered to sort out entry to any UK XC leagues - something that's quite a big part of the club culture for heaps of clubs up and down the country... So he's got to join some other club to be able to enter into a league, but for some reason he doesn't join one of the TWO decent competitive clubs in Winchester and enter into his home league, where he can race top level athletes from Bournemouth and Aldershot. I've race with/against Ellis Cross, Jack Rowe and Abdinassir Mohamoud Elmi (although there are rumours about him in local running whatsapps that suggest he might need to ask Matt Fox for tips on staying fit inside). Does he just hate spending time with his family? Come on man, just join your local club and do some local races if you need a second claim.
I might be wrong, but I read the original post as meaning they paid for a training camp organised by Bester. In which case that would be completely unacceptable behaviour.