How is stating a fact making myself look ridiculous. Only if you think facts are ridiculous. And you obviously do.
So no one passed him while he was gassed and reduced a walk, even though he had been with the lead group at 10k and ended up something like 39th - or was it 100th? Amounts to the same. Yes, you are ridiculous.
You said most. Now you changed to no one. Your moving goal posts is ridiculous. Try to behave like an adult if you can.
Jakob has more championship gold medals than any other current runner. Does that make him the best runner of today or do you not accept that either? Is there anything you would accept?
I'm not interested in what he runs in the distances longer than the 1500/mile.
Says the guy who always brings up Jakob's 5000m PB and HM result. You are ridiculous.
How is stating a fact making myself look ridiculous. Only if you think facts are ridiculous. And you obviously do.
So no one passed him while he was gassed and reduced a walk, even though he had been with the lead group at 10k and ended up something like 39th - or was it 100th? Amounts to the same. Yes, you are ridiculous.
I'm not interested in what he runs in the distances longer than the 1500/mile.
Says the guy who always brings up Jakob's 5000m PB and HM result. You are ridiculous.
I hardly ever have seen a more ridiculous grown up man than Army.
Spends half of his life in downgrading the achievements of some great runner who at age 24 already is in conversation of being an all-time great. And then, all of his "arguments" against him are not valid when used for his heros of the past.
Jakob has more championship gold medals than any other current runner. Does that make him the best runner of today or do you not accept that either? Is there anything you would accept?
I'm not interested in what he runs in the distances longer than the 1500/mile. They don't improve his competitive record over his main event. Even in the 5k (forget the 10k) he hasn't matched or got near matching the greats over those distances. But in his specialist distance of the 1500/mile he has been beaten for championship titles every year for some years. As Muhammad Ali might have put it, he's a contender but not the champ.
Thats an interesting attitude. Whats the point of disregarding several world records, olympic and WC medals when talking about a runner? Its the same athlete. That is a big part of what makes the legend of J.I. (And probably why you disregard it?)
I'm not interested in what he runs in the distances longer than the 1500/mile. They don't improve his competitive record over his main event. Even in the 5k (forget the 10k) he hasn't matched or got near matching the greats over those distances. But in his specialist distance of the 1500/mile he has been beaten for championship titles every year for some years. As Muhammad Ali might have put it, he's a contender but not the champ.
Thats an interesting attitude. Whats the point of disregarding several world records, olympic and WC medals when talking about a runner? Its the same athlete. That is a big part of what makes the legend of J.I. (And probably why you disregard it?)
Jakob had defeated each and every one of those greats over 5k every time he has raced them the past several years
Says the guy who always brings up Jakob's 5000m PB and HM result. You are ridiculous.
I hardly ever have seen a more ridiculous grown up man than Army.
Spends half of his life in downgrading the achievements of some great runner who at age 24 already is in conversation of being an all-time great. And then, all of his "arguments" against him are not valid when used for his heros of the past.
You confirm everything I have said about a deluded fan. What none of you can accept is the fundamental point that as a 1500/miler - his specialty - he is not as good as he or his fans say he is is. His successive losses over several years in 1500 championship finals proves it. It means he is not one of the greats in the 1500/mile and is now only one of a group of contenders for being the best in this era in that event.
I'm not interested in what he runs in the distances longer than the 1500/mile. They don't improve his competitive record over his main event. Even in the 5k (forget the 10k) he hasn't matched or got near matching the greats over those distances. But in his specialist distance of the 1500/mile he has been beaten for championship titles every year for some years. As Muhammad Ali might have put it, he's a contender but not the champ.
Thats an interesting attitude. Whats the point of disregarding several world records, olympic and WC medals when talking about a runner? Its the same athlete. That is a big part of what makes the legend of J.I. (And probably why you disregard it?)
It is the same athlete, as you say, and by the criteria you use he is one of the all-round best md runners in this era. But assessed by his achievements - and signal failures - in his main event, the 1500/mile, it is debatable that he is the best in that event - and that is what I am discussing. I argue he isn't. He is now one of the pack. The best have to win the biggest races. He hasn't done so in that event for years. Being a successful 3k/5k runner doesn't make him "better" over his main distance, which is the one he, by far, races the most often. I judge him by what he has achieved in that event and compare him with others who race this in this era and in the past. His standing as a 5k runner isn't relevant to that discussion and most of the great 1500/milers in the past didn't seriously race the longer event, if at all. If you want to talk about the longer events then it is a different bunch of runners he will be compared with.
Thats an interesting attitude. Whats the point of disregarding several world records, olympic and WC medals when talking about a runner? Its the same athlete. That is a big part of what makes the legend of J.I. (And probably why you disregard it?)
Jakob had defeated each and every one of those greats over 5k every time he has raced them the past several years
The "greats" I refer to are Geb, Bekele and Farah. He never raced them. He has had very few outings in the 5k, so he has rarely met the best in this era. Cheptegei is clearly a far better 10k runner and his 5k record remains far out of sight to anything Ingebrigtsen has shown. Ingebrigtsen can win a slow tactical race but does he have the ability to be the undoubted fastest over the distance? That is entirely moot.
Jakob has more championship gold medals than any other current runner. Does that make him the best runner of today or do you not accept that either? Is there anything you would accept?
I'm not interested in what he runs in the distances longer than the 1500/mile. They don't improve his competitive record over his main event. Even in the 5k (forget the 10k) he hasn't matched or got near matching the greats over those distances. But in his specialist distance of the 1500/mile he has been beaten for championship titles every year for some years. As Muhammad Ali might have put it, he's a contender but not the champ.
There is no invincible athlete, including Cassius Clay. Okay, let's make it as simple as possible. Is Jakob Ingebrigtsen the best current 1500m runner?
No. I mean that you said most of the runners who finished in front of him passed him while he was walking and that is false. You don't care about facts.
You really do like to make yourself ridiculous.
Nah you make yourself look ridiculous everyone on these boards hates you dude
Nah you make yourself look ridiculous everyone on these boards hates you dude
No, I don't hate him, I pity him. Either he's really blind, or he just likes to confront people for fun. I think it's the second, but I could be wrong.
Nah you make yourself look ridiculous everyone on these boards hates you dude
No, I don't hate him, I pity him. Either he's really blind, or he just likes to confront people for fun. I think it's the second, but I could be wrong.
He has stated more than once that he has zero interest in the sport and that he only comes here "to rile people up".
I also pity him. Imagine being 71 years old and choosing to spend hours of your days arguing with strangers, insulting and belittling them. And for what?
Well Filip was talking about what he would do in the summer. September is not the summer so he technically has not called Jakobs shot at Tokyo.
Summer › Date (2025) Fri, Jun 20, 2025 – Mon, Sep 22, 2025 Northern Hemisphere
You're right. The games end 1 day before the summer ends. That's my bad. Figured I would give Armstrong's unnecessary nitpicking a whirl and see what it got me.
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