I'm intrigued by the Strava files as well. He was transparent in stating that the pace for each km would be generated from the time taken to complete a master lap, so it will be same pace across 12-13km blocks.
But if that's being generated from the timing chip, where does the GPS and altitudinal data come from? The GPS seems to respect the lanes somewhat as well.
Intrigued is one way of putting it. I can't see the strava data, but 'if' there is a timing chip/timing system, then there would be data for each and every lap...not just a so called 'master lap'.
Of course they will provide all if the data for each lap. A "master "lap is not an official distance it could be 3 ,8,20 laps . Sure he's said his master laps are a set distance but surely we are not going to be expected to just take his word for it that each master lap was the correct distance without any data other than created files and a live feed which has shown him in the wrong lane at times
As much as I'm annoyed by the world record narcissism, poor preparation, worse execution, lack of respect for rules, the sport, and Kouros, the charity bit doesn't bother me much.
I think people are donating to feel good about themselves, and probably expect a big chunk of the money to disappear into the ether.
No matter how i feel about it, I've been glued to this compelling drama. I've paid good money for a lot less entertaining shows.
In this case, i'll keep my money in my pocket, and continue to donate my time directly to charities.
But thanks for the entertainment Nedd, I hope your body recovers, and your mental health is ok when the adulation eventually fizzles to nothing.
As much as I'm annoyed by the world record narcissism, poor preparation, worse execution, lack of respect for rules, the sport, and Kouros, the charity bit doesn't bother me much.
I think people are donating to feel good about themselves, and probably expect a big chunk of the money to disappear into the ether.
No matter how i feel about it, I've been glued to this compelling drama. I've paid good money for a lot less entertaining shows.
In this case, i'll keep my money in my pocket, and continue to donate my time directly to charities.
But thanks for the entertainment Nedd, I hope your body recovers, and your mental health is ok when the adulation eventually fizzles to nothing.
What makes you think that people probably expect a big chunk of the donated money to disappear into the either? The vast majority of the Aus public adore Ned and have no reason to believe he's doing anything untoward.
As much as I'm annoyed by the world record narcissism, poor preparation, worse execution, lack of respect for rules, the sport, and Kouros, the charity bit doesn't bother me much.
I think people are donating to feel good about themselves, and probably expect a big chunk of the money to disappear into the ether.
No matter how i feel about it, I've been glued to this compelling drama. I've paid good money for a lot less entertaining shows.
In this case, i'll keep my money in my pocket, and continue to donate my time directly to charities.
But thanks for the entertainment Nedd, I hope your body recovers, and your mental health is ok when the adulation eventually fizzles to nothing.
What makes you think that people probably expect a big chunk of the donated money to disappear into the either? The vast majority of the Aus public adore Ned and have no reason to believe he's doing anything untoward.
'The vast majority' is a big stretch. Half the running community don't even know he exists, and he'd be a lot less known in the wider non running community.
His language, attention seeking, grunting, uncouth behaviour definitely does not endear him to the vast majority, just a small clique.
His adoring fans will support him regardless of anything he does amd how he's done it. They're all in on Nedd.
What makes you think that people probably expect a big chunk of the donated money to disappear into the either? The vast majority of the Aus public adore Ned and have no reason to believe he's doing anything untoward.
'The vast majority' is a big stretch. Half the running community don't even know he exists, and he'd be a lot less known in the wider non running community.
His language, attention seeking, grunting, uncouth behaviour definitely does not endear him to the vast majority, just a small clique.
His adoring fans will support him regardless of anything he does amd how he's done it. They're all in on Nedd.
Where you are incorrect is your point about the wider non running community, he is actually more known in this community than the running community, he has been all over Australian tv, radio, podcasts and social media this week. If you think uncouth behaviour doesn't endear him to Aussies, then you don't know anything about Aussies. I have also caught public transport to work in Sydney everyday for the past week, and everyday I have overheard random people of all ages obsessing over updates on Ned.
I'd be shocked if 15% of the money "raised" actually goes to Mobilise.
I saw four different security guards at the athletics track when I was in the area on Wednesday, preventing people from getting to view the run. There's also track booking, keeping the coaching/media/medical team on the payroll, timing equipment, event planning, EMT at the venue and paid media coverage. It all adds up and people donating are being taken for a ride.
You’re being way too cynical here. The money donated is going straight to mobilise. Puma and Samsung and co are paying for all these security guards you’re referring to. Donations will go to mobilise, sponsors will be providing some support for him presumably but his real financial gain comes from the speaking circuit etc that he hits after it, as after the cross Australia
Just have a look at The Barefoot Sports Timing site, the cumulative time does not match the time of day... Intriguing
I haven't done the maths, but I suspect the times recorded as "transition time" correlates with time off the track. Not always though, the >8 hour lap split on day 1 obviously included his break at the end of the day, which is probably going to happen if the break is taken before the completion of a master lap.
Barefoot Sports obviously do timing for triathlons, where transitions are timed separately to the bike laps or run laps. I imagine that's what they tried to do here, but they I'm not sure how many long track ultras they've timed where athletes are leaving and returning to the race course, and they're working with a runner and crew with little or no experience with that sort of race set up or used to communicating their event's timing needs to a timing company.
The irony is if Nedd's team opted for one Canberra based timing company, they would have also benefited from working with one of Australia's best minds in ultra running, a 259k 24 hour and 433km 48 hour runner whose been heavily involved in our national teams as an athlete, coach and selector.
This is why Nedd is limited by a lack of race experience. Get out there and race so you and your crew meet people and learn from the wisdom and mistakes of others.
I thought surely you guys would be watching some old kipchoge or yiannis races with all the discrediting and negativity towards nedd and your love of the greats , but to my shock, eight days on use are still watching every lap!
might as well join us over there with some respect and positivity, it’s a lot more fun !
Nedd's now completed 9 days and I'm pretty impressed with how he has run.
Sure, if I wanted my advice, I would have urged different training and preparation, a slower start with more mileage on Day 1, a race strategy involving regular walking intervals at a faster walking pace, and simple things like cutting the toe-box out of his running shoes. As far as looking after his body there's some real low hanging fruit.
He has done particularly well to dig himself out of a hole in the last 48 hours after having a very difficult Day 7. He looks to have benefited from finally settling into a regular routine with sleep/rest break during the graveyard shift and a fairly solid and consistent pace on the track for about 18 hours.
There's certainly many aspects about the run I have reservations about; the way it's been marketing as an attempt on Yiannis' record and selling himself as that calibre of runner (both claims are either dishonest, ignorant or both, which I feel lacks respect), the master lap bullsh!t which lends itself to errors/inaccuracies/course cutting, and a timing system that neither counts individual laps capable of being audited or updates in real time.
I am sure he'll run close enough to 1000 miles in a very respectable time. If someone asked me who Nedd was, "I'd say that dude who ran 1000 miles at Olympic Park".
If he runs as well over the next 3 days as he has over the last two, he will be posting a time in the same ballpark as Bryan Smith's Australian record. It's still an enormously difficult task from here, and I'm not prepared to call a sub 12 day finish for a couple days yet.
The money he has generated for a worthy charitable cause is genuinely admirable.
Definitely interested in his fortunes over the remaining days.
What makes you think that people probably expect a big chunk of the donated money to disappear into the either? The vast majority of the Aus public adore Ned and have no reason to believe he's doing anything untoward.
'The vast majority' is a big stretch. Half the running community don't even know he exists, and he'd be a lot less known in the wider non running community.
His language, attention seeking, grunting, uncouth behaviour definitely does not endear him to the vast majority, just a small clique.
His adoring fans will support him regardless of anything he does amd how he's done it. They're all in on Nedd.
Mate, even the wiggles are writing songs about him now. He’s very well known, but definitely better known in the non-running community than running community
I thought surely you guys would be watching some old kipchoge or yiannis races with all the discrediting and negativity towards nedd and your love of the greats , but to my shock, eight days on use are still watching every lap!
might as well join us over there with some respect and positivity, it’s a lot more fun !
I'm not sure why you and some other posters here think that so many of us hold a singular opinion purely because we question some aspects of Nedd's run or appreciate Kouros' performances.
Three things for you learn as you move through life:
* People's opinions can be nuanced and varied, despite agreeing on some points.
* You'll have more credibility if you treat people's opinions with thought and respect.
* You'll do better academically and in employment if you didn't flagrantly misuse the word "use". (My unconditional apologies if you have dyslexia or are learning English as an additional language).
Out of curiosity , what is the impact on his body going to be long term? He looks broken now - I’m just wondering if he will have truly done damage to himself
Question here for someone who’s actually run multi day events or spectates them more closely…
For the last 36 or so hours he’s looked better than he has since about the start of day 2. A couple of days ago he looked like he was on absolute deaths door and barely holding it together.
How common is it to actually get second winds like that?
Im a supporter of his so not trying to cast doubt, but I am intrigued to know how rare it is