There is a reason why the average white families net worth is 9x that of the black families net worth today...July 25, 2023 and it has to do with historical and continued discrimination in housing and leading, as a home is by far the largest part of their net worth.
Rigged Systemic reasoning huh. And there must be rigged systemic reasoning why Jews household income is like three times that of other white families that are gentiles.
By your logic white gentiles should be screaming injustice.
Jews received reparations. I guess you forgot that.
They also created Israel after WWII. You forgot that as well.
Also the Jews population is an extremely small size.
Also you don't even know if most Jewish people are Jewish unless they tell you. Most are white.
I notice you used the past tense "was" and that you are talking about the problems of 1958. It may not be intentional, but you are answering questions that I'm not asking instead of the one that I am asking.
I'd like to hear from you as to whether a middle-aged person today who was raised by someone who was told by the government that they were not allowed to enjoy the benefits available to others because they are black and who had their opportunities intentionally and systematically limited, has been afforded the same opportunities that their white peers enjoy today.
Seems like this one could be answered with a simple "yes" or "no."
I don't think white people are a monolith the way you and 458777 seem to.
Italians and Irish had it pretty rough for awhile too. Some white people in the hills of Tennessee and Kentucky have been dirt poor for centuries. This privilege and silver spoon you seem to think all white people have doesn't exist.
Your parents having it rough can make it harder for you to succeed but in America anyone can succeed if you graduate high school, get a job, and don't have kids until you're in a committed relationship.
It isn't a coincidence that the group that fails to these 3 things the most is lagging behind all the other groups.
Did you just attempt to compare Italian and Irish Americans being poor to blacks being enslaved for 250 years and 100 years of legalized discrimination?
When were white people chattel slavery for 250 years in America and then treated as 2nd class citizens for another 150 years? What history lesson taught you that lie?
The new standards require instruction for middle school students to include “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit”. I would say this is unbelievable but it’s not. DeSantis is an unapologetic stone cold racist…makes no attempt to hide. Seems he sits up late at night thinking of new ways to piss off Black people.
This is similar to saying although starving Jews in Aushwitz was bad….in some instances, it helped with obesity.
Did you just attempt to compare Italian and Irish Americans being poor to blacks being enslaved for 250 years and 100 years of legalized discrimination?
When were white people chattel slavery for 250 years in America and then treated as 2nd class citizens for another 150 years? What history lesson taught you that lie?
You really are an amazing liar.
Yeah we know.... we know. You have to be the biggest victims. You have to be the most fragile and traumatized. The winners of victim Olympics .
Don't worry you're still the winner. You're the most oppressed and unjustly treated people in the history of the universe ever ever!!! Ever!
Jews received reparations. I guess you forgot that.
They also created Israel after WWII. You forgot that as well.
Also the Jews population is an extremely small size.
Also you don't even know if most Jewish people are Jewish unless they tell you. Most are white.
I don't know what your point here is, but All of that doesn't change the fact that Jews by far have the highest income levels in the country for a group.
It must be an unjust rigged game.
It's rigged if it's white gentiles making more than blacks? But not Jews making three times what white gentiles make? That's gotta be shady stuff going on. Right?
Did you just attempt to compare Italian and Irish Americans being poor to blacks being enslaved for 250 years and 100 years of legalized discrimination?
When were white people chattel slavery for 250 years in America and then treated as 2nd class citizens for another 150 years? What history lesson taught you that lie?
You really are an amazing liar.
Quick check on your math. Where did you get the 250 years slavery and 100 years of legalized discrimination from? Also 150 years of 2nd class citizens?
very interesting. I'll look at 2 non-white islands. Why does Japan do so much better than Haiti?
Obviously you don't know the history of Haiti and how they were ostracized and forced by France to pay a debt that took them 122 years after they revolted against their French enslavers. Or the fact that the United States invaded the country and took over its banks for 19 years and fleeced the country.
Did you just attempt to compare Italian and Irish Americans being poor to blacks being enslaved for 250 years and 100 years of legalized discrimination?
When were white people chattel slavery for 250 years in America and then treated as 2nd class citizens for another 150 years? What history lesson taught you that lie?
You really are an amazing liar.
Quick check on your math. Where did you get the 250 years slavery and 100 years of legalized discrimination from? Also 150 years of 2nd class citizens?
1865 minus 1619 is 246 (rounded to 250)
You do know what happened in 1619 and 1865...right? First slaves in an English settlement in what would become America in 1619. 1865...end of the U.S. Civil War.
1865 to 1965..... pretty much 100 years legalized discrimination against blacks. Voting Rights Act passed in 1965. 2023 minus 1865 is 158. (Rounded down to 150)
250 years of slavery and 150 years as 2nd class citizens in what is called the United States.
Class dismissed.
This is exactly why United States history needs to taught correctly and and forcing teachers to say lies that slaves learned skills that provided benefits and that African-Americans were the perpetrators of violence during Race Riots against them.
I don't think white people are a monolith the way you and 458777 seem to.
Italians and Irish had it pretty rough for awhile too. Some white people in the hills of Tennessee and Kentucky have been dirt poor for centuries. This privilege and silver spoon you seem to think all white people have doesn't exist.
Your parents having it rough can make it harder for you to succeed but in America anyone can succeed if you graduate high school, get a job, and don't have kids until you're in a committed relationship.
It isn't a coincidence that the group that fails to these 3 things the most is lagging behind all the other groups.
Did you just attempt to compare Italian and Irish Americans being poor to blacks being enslaved for 250 years and 100 years of legalized discrimination?
When were white people chattel slavery for 250 years in America and then treated as 2nd class citizens for another 150 years? What history lesson taught you that lie?
You really are an amazing liar.
No I compared the treatment Irish and Italian immigrants got to the treatment blacks got in the 1950s.
You don't seem to understand what the word "lie" means...
You do know what happened in 1619 and 1865...right? First slaves in an English settlement in what would become America in 1619. 1865...end of the U.S. Civil War.
1865 to 1965..... pretty much 100 years legalized discrimination against blacks. Voting Rights Act passed in 1965. 2023 minus 1865 is 158. (Rounded down to 150)
250 years of slavery and 150 years as 2nd class citizens in what is called the United States.
Class dismissed.
This is exactly why United States history needs to taught correctly and and forcing teachers to say lies that slaves learned skills that provided benefits and that African-Americans were the perpetrators of violence during Race Riots against them.
Good information. Sorry to hear you consider yourself and other black folks 2nd class citizens today. Must be very hard for you.
very interesting. I'll look at 2 non-white islands. Why does Japan do so much better than Haiti?
Obviously you don't know the history of Haiti and how they were ostracized and forced by France to pay a debt that took them 122 years after they revolted against their French enslavers. Or the fact that the United States invaded the country and took over its banks for 19 years and fleeced the country.
So Hati is the millennial equivalent of an island? Takes out a loan they can't pay back and then complain about being poor?
You do know what happened in 1619 and 1865...right? First slaves in an English settlement in what would become America in 1619. 1865...end of the U.S. Civil War.
1865 to 1965..... pretty much 100 years legalized discrimination against blacks. Voting Rights Act passed in 1965. 2023 minus 1865 is 158. (Rounded down to 150)
250 years of slavery and 150 years as 2nd class citizens in what is called the United States.
Class dismissed.
This is exactly why United States history needs to taught correctly and and forcing teachers to say lies that slaves learned skills that provided benefits and that African-Americans were the perpetrators of violence during Race Riots against them.
Good information. Sorry to hear you consider yourself and other black folks 2nd class citizens today. Must be very hard for you.
Slavery in the United States didn't exist before 1776 because the United States didn't exist. 1619 to 1776 was slavery in Britain (via her colonies).
Japan was burnt to the ground and nuked twice in the 1940s but Haiti is much worse off because they had to pay an unfair bill 200 years ago...
Your "dumb ass" can't do anything to help fix the level of stupid you're working with.
Whatever you’re an expert in, it isn’t history. The post-revolution Haitian government not only had the debt that France required (literally the Haitians having to pay France for their own freedom) but were also blockaded from trade, a policy instituted by the Jefferson administration, because he and others in the government and South were terrified that a successful Haiti would inspire slaves in the US to rise up and start their own revolution. The whole of Haiti was kneecapped before it could even begin.
Did you just attempt to compare Italian and Irish Americans being poor to blacks being enslaved for 250 years and 100 years of legalized discrimination?
When were white people chattel slavery for 250 years in America and then treated as 2nd class citizens for another 150 years? What history lesson taught you that lie?
You really are an amazing liar.
Yeah we know.... we know. You have to be the biggest victims. You have to be the most fragile and traumatized. The winners of victim Olympics .
Don't worry you're still the winner. You're the most oppressed and unjustly treated people in the history of the universe ever ever!!! Ever!
Do you want a tissue?
I want what every African-American has ever wanted from America. That is for America to actually live up to its own words in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence....problem is these documents didn't apply to black people and folks like you, still to this very day disparage, discredit, deligitimatize and stigmatize African-Americans. How about you just stop and treat people they way you want to be treated.
This thread is about folks like you wanting to change history to make you feel good. As said before in this thread, if you always feel good about history then your aren't reading history...you are being told a good bedtime story to coddle you to sleep like a little kid.
Obviously you don't know the history of Haiti and how they were ostracized and forced by France to pay a debt that took them 122 years after they revolted against their French enslavers. Or the fact that the United States invaded the country and took over its banks for 19 years and fleeced the country.
So Hati is the millennial equivalent of an island? Takes out a loan they can't pay back and then complain about being poor?
Not a loan. The slaves in Haiti successfully expelled/killed their French enslavers. And then the French demanded that Haiti pay the French for their lost property (the Haitians themselves). This coupled with the blockade on trade that the US enforced against Haiti was economically disastrous.
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