Tom “Tinman” Schwartz and Drew Hunter/Tinman Elite have parted ways

Hahaha, the TME group focusing on the Olympics? what does that mean? Are they getting cable installed so they can watch? Hahaha

left hand canyonite wrote:

Hahaha, the TME group focusing on the Olympics? what does that mean? Are they getting cable installed so they can watch? Hahaha

+100. Maybe they're trying to save up money for tickets to watch in person?

I feel like Let’s Run should start a GoFundMe for Toms legal bills to sue these petulant children , I’d contribute.

Ace_of_Base wrote:

I feel like Let’s Run should start a GoFundMe for Toms legal bills to sue these petulant children , I’d contribute.

I'd contribute in a heartbeat. Take back your name, Tinman!

Ace_of_Base wrote:

I feel like Let’s Run should start a GoFundMe for Toms legal bills to sue these petulant children , I’d contribute.

Tommy is now a charity case? Please give the man some respect.

A good class of his own or a bad class of his own?

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

dhdj wrote:

Almost guaranteed that Tammy and Tommy will be celebrating them not making the Olympic Team with a roll in the hay....in between their big fluffy My Pillows.

Weren’t you just ranting to me about supporting Tinman for his politics?

Then, very squid-like you post this, complete with the My Pillow reference.

Posters like you are not only annoying, but you are really always pushing an agenda.

Come out from behind the shadow, it’s pretty obvious what you are doing.

WHAT? Is everything about politics for you, even pillow references?

🦑🤡

shea it aint so wrote:

A good class of his own or a bad class of his own?

A bit of both? IF it is true he had Connor Winters break up with Tinman over the phone then that is a pretty awful way to end the mostly successful relationship they have had over the years.

He's fast and his social media does't scream "LOOK AT ME" like some of the other runners I mentioned who haven't done anything.

Props because he can grow a legitimate mustache unlike Parsons and Gusman

thes wrote:

Ostrich wrote:

I don't think Tom needs a secondary account to troll them. His most recent post is already a bit of a diss to the whole team anyways

"

tinmancoach

Happy for Brett!! He ran a personal best. It’s a pleasure to coach him. He is respectful and appreciative. He does the work, keeps me informed, listens to instructions, and always has a good attitude!!"

https://www.instagram.com/p/COD8oX3HfsJ/

That's bad. Sounds like a teacher's comments on an elementary school report card.

Just bummed that he beat you, Thies?

Tom Schwartz is following Wesfly athletics LOL. I would love to see tinman coach the CEO. I would pay a lot of money to see Drew Hunter get beat by the CEO.

Idk. At the start of this, I was very sympathetic towards Tinman but the more that comes out, the less I am. That noted, both Tinman and TME are at fault here.

Firstly, TS is a grown adult. He has nobody but himself to blame for poor financial decisions. If he felt that he was getting underpaid, then it’s his job to bring that up. Did he ever talk to TME about it? They’re not gonna read his mind. And Tammy has also been very suspect. She’s posted a lot of misleading information including, but not limited to, how much TS was earning from his coaching of TME.

At the same time, TME could have been more professional about this. Firing him over the phone is immature by any standard, and leaving his information up on their website is worse. I think it’d be good for TME to give up his name, but I could also see them keeping it and I wouldn’t be too bothered. It almost feels like borderline criminal neglect from TS. No trademark, no real contract, relocating his family on a whim, and now his wife defending him? C’mon man.

I’m sad to see that this didn’t work out, and hope for the best for both parties moving forward.

Ostrich wrote:

thes wrote:

That's bad. Sounds like a teacher's comments on an elementary school report card.

Just bummed that he beat you, Thies?

At first, but makes sense now. Apparantly he's respectful, appreciative, does the work, keeps his coach informed, listens to instructions, and always has a good attitude.

any truth here wrote:

What's wrong with firing him on the phone when they were in different states? Especially in a worldwide pandemic that has killed over 500k Americans. Maybe Drew should have done it instead of Connor, but would that have made Tinman feel any better? No, probably would have made him feel worse.

Based on Tom and Tammy's comments and posts, the 23 year olds have been far more mature about this situation than the Schwartz family. Many of the claims of arrogance, rudeness, pushing trump support and having a burner account have been SUBSTANTIATED by numerous different parties who have interacted with Tom in different ways. That gives more credibility to the allegations of racism.

Were they in separate states? I thought Tinman was in Colorado?

So far we haven’t heard any examples of TS being racist. So there is no credibility. Try again unregistered account.

Heartless wrote:

This thread is great. What a shiit show! People even bringing Trump into it- LOL!!

Both sides are underperforming.

Both sides also think WAAAAAY too highly of themselves.

Then there’s adidas, who apparently threw a few million down the drain (plus opportunity cost that could’ve been invested wisely) for no reason.

Bunch of clowns pointing fingers. Love it.

This^ x 1000. I've read all 37 pages and this sums it perfectly!

This whole thing is ending as it should. Hunter is a goofy slacker that has surrounded himself with navel gazing goofs. His parents seem to have an inflated opinion of their coaching prowess. TME is made up of content makers with marginal professional running talent. Yet, they have come to believe they’re entitled to more than where they are at. Tinman may be a competent coach but listening to him brag years after about high school races, times, records and what if’s is the cherry on top of the sadness cake of everybody involved. Meanwhile...Grant Fischer has a degree from Stanford and is on the most professional team in the US emerging as the next American talent with incredible range. Love it.

who has been classier here, this past weekend, Tammy or Tinmen:

First and foremost, we’d like to address our silence about the decision to part ways with Coach Schwartz. Our initial mutual aim with Coach Schwartz was to keep this news confidential until after the Olympic Trials in an effort to provide Coach Schwartz with time and space to determine his future coaching endeavors and to allow our athletes to focus on their Olympic goals.

It became clear to the team that Coach Schwartz’s growing commercial coaching business and other pursuits made him unable to provide the individualized attention that the team needed in order to stay healthy and succeed long term. Despite parting ways with Coach Schwartz, the team has continued to uphold the mutually agreed upon compensation we committed to provide in our initial coaching agreement, allowing him time and support as he determines his next steps.

We wish Coach Schwartz well, thank him for his time with the team, and will work with him to address any additional concerns he may have. At this time, our team is focused on the future—the upcoming Olympic Trials and working to uphold our mission of pushing the sport of running forward through positive community outreach and athletic performance.

Thank you for the support.

– Tinman Elite