OFFICIAL LRC President Donald Trump SECOND TERM Thread

Oldrunningguy wrote:

agip wrote:

first off, no, there has not been a ton of corrupt spending uncovered.

more importantly, you miss the point. You and your Orbanist buds would be glad to hand over the entire government to trump and eliminate centuries of checks on the exec branch. You would do that in a heartbeat.

for that, you deserve shame.

Think about this. Thousands of people went through the US court system for January 6th and they all had opportunity to demonstrate all of their proof of Jan 6th conspiracies in a court of law in front of juries of their peers. Yet none of the gave any shred of evidence while they were under oath and while their lawyers were bound by telling the truth. Nothing. Zippo. Nada.

Yet today most Trumpers believe the conspiracies. They would sell their mothers on that belief.

So do you think it will be a heavy lift for Musk and Trump owning one of the biggest media platforms in the world and the loudest microphone to spin a narrative that they are making huge discoveries of corrupt waste with DOGE?
(never mind the zero transparency and oversight. Just trust them)

gnarlysheen wrote:

agip wrote:

first off, no, there has not been a ton of corrupt spending uncovered.

more importantly, you miss the point. You and your Orbanist buds would be glad to hand over the entire government to trump and eliminate centuries of checks on the exec branch. You would do that in a heartbeat.

for that, you deserve shame.

Your obviously trolling, correct? Let's start here. I'm guessing you didn't know about this. You're welcome:

1. Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Expenditures
Musk highlighted that FEMA allocated $59 million to luxury hotels in New York City to house illegal migrants. City officials clarified that this amount was part of previously disclosed funding, with $19 million directed toward various hotels. This revelation has intensified discussions about FEMA's spending practices. nypost.com
2. United States Agency for International Development (USAID) Operations
Musk's scrutiny of USAID uncovered expenditures deemed excessive, leading to administrative leave for over 2,000 employees. This move, temporarily blocked by a judge, underscores concerns about potential inefficiencies within the agency. politico.com
3. Department of Education Spending
Investigations into the Department of Education revealed instances of financial mismanagement, including funds allocated to underperforming programs and administrative overheads. These findings have prompted calls for a comprehensive review of the department's budget. politico.com
These efforts reflect Musk's commitment to identifying and addressing wasteful government spending.

Also, what is an Orbanist? Not familiar with that.

Are you admitting defeat on the California wildfire issue?

gnarlysheen wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/09/business/economy/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs.html?nl=the-morning®i_id=264224732&segment_id=190591

Key Concerns About Chinese Steel:
Quality Issues:
Some Chinese steel products have been criticized for not meeting international standards. Examples include steel with inconsistent strength, durability, or other properties compared to specifications. These deficiencies are attributed to cost-cutting measures, use of lower-quality raw materials, or differences in manufacturing processes.
Counterfeit Certifications:
Cases of counterfeit certification documents accompanying steel shipments have been reported. This has led to substandard materials being used in critical infrastructure projects.
Dumping and Subsidized Production:
China has been accused of "dumping" steel—selling it at below-market prices in foreign markets due to government subsidies and overproduction. While this affects price competition, it has also raised concerns about quality trade-offs.
Specific Incidents:
Reports from various countries have documented infrastructure failures linked to the use of subpar Chinese steel, particularly in large construction projects or high-stress applications.
Steps Taken to Address the Issue:
Tariffs and Import Restrictions:
Many countries, including the U.S., have imposed tariffs on Chinese steel imports to protect domestic producers and reduce reliance on potentially lower-quality imports.
Quality Testing:
Importers and construction firms often require rigorous testing and certification before using Chinese steel in major projects.
Focus on Domestic Steel:
Countries like the U.S. have invested in bolstering their domestic steel industries to ensure quality and reduce dependency on imports.

agip wrote:

gnarlysheen wrote:

Your obviously trolling, correct? Let's start here. I'm guessing you didn't know about this. You're welcome:

1. Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Expenditures
Musk highlighted that FEMA allocated $59 million to luxury hotels in New York City to house illegal migrants. City officials clarified that this amount was part of previously disclosed funding, with $19 million directed toward various hotels. This revelation has intensified discussions about FEMA's spending practices. nypost.com
2. United States Agency for International Development (USAID) Operations
Musk's scrutiny of USAID uncovered expenditures deemed excessive, leading to administrative leave for over 2,000 employees. This move, temporarily blocked by a judge, underscores concerns about potential inefficiencies within the agency. politico.com
3. Department of Education Spending
Investigations into the Department of Education revealed instances of financial mismanagement, including funds allocated to underperforming programs and administrative overheads. These findings have prompted calls for a comprehensive review of the department's budget. politico.com
These efforts reflect Musk's commitment to identifying and addressing wasteful government spending.

Also, what is an Orbanist? Not familiar with that.

Are you admitting defeat on the California wildfire issue?

if you don't know who Victor Orban is, you should. he is Hungary's trump. He used rubes like you to collect power and now Hungary no longer has a functioning democracy. Orban and Trump use the same model to destroy democracy and you and your ignorant hate support them.

You are citing some right wing source that would dictate anything musk says and call it the truth and a scandal.

Cite a real newspaper showing clear corrupt inappropriate illegal spending uncovered by DOGE and we'll talk about it.

I'm sure there is fed spending abuse, but you can't take the word of Republicans to show it. They lie as they breathe.

gnarlysheen wrote:

agip wrote:

if you don't know who Victor Orban is, you should. he is Hungary's trump. He used rubes like you to collect power and now Hungary no longer has a functioning democracy. Orban and Trump use the same model to destroy democracy and you and your ignorant hate support them.

You are citing some right wing source that would dictate anything musk says and call it the truth and a scandal.

Cite a real newspaper showing clear corrupt inappropriate illegal spending uncovered by DOGE and we'll talk about it.

I'm sure there is fed spending abuse, but you can't take the word of Republicans to show it. They lie as they breathe.

Ha!!!! Dude, this is A.I.!!! You really are delusional, aren't you? I don't get news from "some right wing source," I look at everything that is presented, based on facts. I also listed my sources, which are left wing!!! You are blind!

Go back through the comments, I posted a video of Senators going through all of the spending. I'm not doing your homework for you. Just google it, man. It's right there. They are talking about it in Congress and it is all recorded and put on youtube for you to watch. Go look it up. It isn't fiction. If you don't look at both sides and refuse to look at anything that's not from your side, you are only getting half the information, making you incorrect in your assumptions. Bias and ignorance does not equal truth.

You guys really have thick skulls. The thicker the skull, the smaller the brain. I was trying to be nice and get along with you but you took it as an opportunity to be offensive, which is typical. Have you seen all of those LGBQT+ riots? Very, very aggressive. Also, dumb.

weirdly wrote:

gnarlysheen wrote:

Key Concerns About Chinese Steel:
Quality Issues:
Some Chinese steel products have been criticized for not meeting international standards. Examples include steel with inconsistent strength, durability, or other properties compared to specifications. These deficiencies are attributed to cost-cutting measures, use of lower-quality raw materials, or differences in manufacturing processes.
Counterfeit Certifications:
Cases of counterfeit certification documents accompanying steel shipments have been reported. This has led to substandard materials being used in critical infrastructure projects.
Dumping and Subsidized Production:
China has been accused of "dumping" steel—selling it at below-market prices in foreign markets due to government subsidies and overproduction. While this affects price competition, it has also raised concerns about quality trade-offs.
Specific Incidents:
Reports from various countries have documented infrastructure failures linked to the use of subpar Chinese steel, particularly in large construction projects or high-stress applications.
Steps Taken to Address the Issue:
Tariffs and Import Restrictions:
Many countries, including the U.S., have imposed tariffs on Chinese steel imports to protect domestic producers and reduce reliance on potentially lower-quality imports.
Quality Testing:
Importers and construction firms often require rigorous testing and certification before using Chinese steel in major projects.
Focus on Domestic Steel:
Countries like the U.S. have invested in bolstering their domestic steel industries to ensure quality and reduce dependency on imports.

The US barely buys any Chinese steel. Mexico buys a huge amount. Canada buys a huge amount. But not the US. So tariffs on Chinese steel from the US mean fuk all.

China want dialogue around all of this. When will it happen? At some point they will have to sit down and talk.

Sally Vix wrote:

Oldrunningguy wrote:

Think about this. Thousands of people went through the US court system for January 6th and they all had opportunity to demonstrate all of their proof of Jan 6th conspiracies in a court of law in front of juries of their peers. Yet none of the gave any shred of evidence while they were under oath and while their lawyers were bound by telling the truth. Nothing. Zippo. Nada.

Yet today most Trumpers believe the conspiracies. They would sell their mothers on that belief.

So do you think it will be a heavy lift for Musk and Trump owning one of the biggest media platforms in the world and the loudest microphone to spin a narrative that they are making huge discoveries of corrupt waste with DOGE?
(never mind the zero transparency and oversight. Just trust them)

They had the Congressional Jan. 6 hearings and nothing came of it. Just drop it.

Oldrunningguy wrote:

agip wrote:

first off, no, there has not been a ton of corrupt spending uncovered.

more importantly, you miss the point. You and your Orbanist buds would be glad to hand over the entire government to trump and eliminate centuries of checks on the exec branch. You would do that in a heartbeat.

for that, you deserve shame.

Think about this. Thousands of people went through the US court system for January 6th and they all had opportunity to demonstrate all of their proof of Jan 6th conspiracies in a court of law in front of juries of their peers. Yet none of the gave any shred of evidence while they were under oath and while their lawyers were bound by telling the truth. Nothing. Zippo. Nada.

Yet today most Trumpers believe the conspiracies. They would sell their mothers on that belief.

So do you think it will be a heavy lift for Musk and Trump owning one of the biggest media platforms in the world and the loudest microphone to spin a narrative that they are making huge discoveries of corrupt waste with DOGE?
(never mind the zero transparency and oversight. Just trust them)

agip wrote:

gnarlysheen wrote:

Ha!!!! Dude, this is A.I.!!! You really are delusional, aren't you? I don't get news from "some right wing source," I look at everything that is presented, based on facts. I also listed my sources, which are left wing!!! You are blind!

Go back through the comments, I posted a video of Senators going through all of the spending. I'm not doing your homework for you. Just google it, man. It's right there. They are talking about it in Congress and it is all recorded and put on youtube for you to watch. Go look it up. It isn't fiction. If you don't look at both sides and refuse to look at anything that's not from your side, you are only getting half the information, making you incorrect in your assumptions. Bias and ignorance does not equal truth.

You guys really have thick skulls. The thicker the skull, the smaller the brain. I was trying to be nice and get along with you but you took it as an opportunity to be offensive, which is typical. Have you seen all of those LGBQT+ riots? Very, very aggressive. Also, dumb.

got it.

you can't cite an actual newspaper showing the tons of corrupt spending you claim DOGE has found.