Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Biden actually did worse than what Trump is accused of. Yet, you don't think he should be prosecuted for it? Is that not a double standard???! Seriously, here is what Joe Biden said:

In this speech, Biden boasts his threat to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loans from Ukraine if they did not agree to fire the prosecutor who happened to be investigating the company giving his son a cushy sinecure.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company/

huh? Biden wanted a stronger prosecutor, not a weaker one. You know this.

You also know that the the president should not use foreign policy to ask for illegal help for his campaign

you also know that no one has found any wrongdoing by any bidens.

As the walls close further and further in on Trump, his troll army of 16 year old edge lords and grumpy boomers have no choice but to go full blown retard in order to support and make excuses for him. Expect increasingly incoherent arguments (if that's even possibly) and a drastic climb in "what about" screeching .

Racket wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Not at all. Ever since Trump was elected in 2016 they have been trying to oust him. They despise the man more than anything and will not stop until he is no longer president. Do you think that Biden should be investigated for corruption? You kind of ignored that.

Even if there was credible evidence to your fantasy world conspiracy theory, then it should be handled by the FBI and the DOJ. The president should not use his power of office to influence investigative affairs by way of literal quid-pro-quo with other foreign leaders.

But seriously, did you eat paint chips as a kid? You kind of ignored that.

My fantasy world conspiracy theory? Here is the effing quote!:

"So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b-tch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time."

That is extortion. Cut and dry.

Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

huh? Biden wanted a stronger prosecutor, not a weaker one. You know this.

You also know that the the president should not use foreign policy to ask for illegal help for his campaign

you also know that no one has found any wrongdoing by any bidens.

As the walls close further and further in on Trump, his troll army of 16 year old edge lords and grumpy boomers have no choice but to go full blown retard in order to support and make excuses for him. Expect increasingly incoherent arguments (if that's even possibly) and a drastic climb in "what about" screeching .

We have been hearing the "walls closing in on Trump" crap for 3 years. Give it a rest.

Sally Vix wrote:

Racket wrote:

As the walls close further and further in on Trump, his troll army of 16 year old edge lords and grumpy boomers have no choice but to go full blown retard in order to support and make excuses for him. Expect increasingly incoherent arguments (if that's even possibly) and a drastic climb in "what about" screeching .

We have been hearing the "walls closing in on Trump" crap for 3 years. Give it a rest.

Well, you've got a point there. At this point the walls are so close that Trump is basically quantumly entangled with them.

fly man wrote:

Not The Ukraine wrote:

Ummm . . . No.

Seriously, are you EVER right? I mean, EVER?

"Ukraine (Ukrainian: Україна, romanized: Ukrayina, pronounced [ʊkrɐˈjinɐ] (About this soundlisten)), sometimes called the Ukraine,[7] is a country in Eastern Europe."

Ummm . . . sometimes called does not imply properly called - see notes from Racket.

Care to try again?

kibitzer wrote:

Okay, calm down, everybody. Yes, I detest Donald Trump, but let's get real.

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1) He's not going anywhere soon. (A good thing, IMO--lots of people *still* don't seem to understand how terrible things could get in Mike Pence's Gilead.) His resigning would be an admission of failure, and we've seen enough to realize that that's not something he would be likely to do. . .

Trump is unlikely to resign, in my supernaturally calm opinion (IMSCO). However, it is not clear that his resignation, if it were to come, would be an admission of failure. Instead it would be advertised as proof of the DEEP STATE and a weird victory for The Forgotten Man.

Sally Vix wrote:

Biden actually did worse than what Trump is accused of. Yet, you don't think he should be prosecuted for it? Is that not a double standard???!

Okay, I read this (short) article that was already posted and it explains the situation very well. If you *truly* want to understand the difference between Biden's and Trump's actions vis-à-vis Ukraine, it's very helpful.

OTOH if you've already made up your mind and do not want to be confused with those "fact" thingies, well, you do you. False equivalency much?

C'mon now. That's just Uncle Joe being Uncle Joe.

Calm Man . . . Supernaturally Calm Man wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

Okay, calm down, everybody. Yes, I detest Donald Trump, but let's get real.

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1) He's not going anywhere soon. (A good thing, IMO--lots of people *still* don't seem to understand how terrible things could get in Mike Pence's Gilead.) His resigning would be an admission of failure, and we've seen enough to realize that that's not something he would be likely to do. . .

Trump is unlikely to resign, in my supernaturally calm opinion (IMSCO). However, it is not clear that his resignation, if it were to come, would be an admission of failure. Instead it would be advertised as proof of the DEEP STATE and a weird victory for The Forgotten Man.

yeah agreed and for generations a 'stabbed in the back ' thesis would be used - trumpers would blame the deep state and RINOs for Trump's downfall.

This exact thing is why the allies did not allow a conditional surrender by hitler or his people. After WW1 germans believed they would have won but for weak backbones by their politicians. That allowed hitler to rise. So in WW2 the allies needed to show that hitler lost and he was a disaster for germany and he lost because he was wrong.

Same thing here. Trump and trumpers will try to blame anyone but trump and trumpers for all this treason. Dems must focus blame on trump and trumpers.

one thing is clear. the dems are throwing biden under the bus to get trump out.

Why would I bother explaining the difference when it's way more fun to watch you flail around and honk like a retarded goose?

Sally Vix wrote:

Why is no one talking about whether Joe Biden committed corruption? You really want to impeach a president (forget that it is Trump) and reverse an election because the president said he wanted Ukraine to "play ball." That is why you want to remove a duly elected president. Because he wanted another country to "play ball?"

And once again:

READ, Sally. It's not too painful of a process.

Please read and then stop asking painfully stupid, blatantly partisan questions.

Thanks!

Sally Vix wrote:

Not at all. Ever since Trump was elected in 2016 they have been trying to oust him. They despise the man more than anything and will not stop until he is no longer president. Do you think that Biden should be investigated for corruption? You kind of ignored that.

And again,

You kind of ignored that.

Once Again Man wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Why is no one talking about whether Joe Biden committed corruption? You really want to impeach a president (forget that it is Trump) and reverse an election because the president said he wanted Ukraine to "play ball." That is why you want to remove a duly elected president. Because he wanted another country to "play ball?"

And once again:

https://thebulwark.com/truth-lies-and-the-nonsense-trump-biden-ukraine-false-equivalency/?fbclid=IwAR2eytAzSaDvcpm9kB3Bz4fde7T_XbB6bQswYCRcCn43mb1z5XKxelD3oGU

READ, Sally. It's not too painful of a process.

Please read and then stop asking painfully stupid, blatantly partisan questions.

Thanks!

You guys can bury your heads in the sand all you want to avoid the truth, but this is what Biden said:

"So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b-tch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time."

Nothing like comparing someone to Hitler to demonstrate a lack of debate skills.

nunes: The intelligence community leaked this phone call right? They tape all the presidents' calls, right?

DNI: No, moran, the WH leaked this phone call. 12 people in the WH listen to every call.

Nunes believes the right wing BS. As does Trump. That's a major problem. They are right wing radio fans and believe that stuff.

And yet again:

Is understanding something an action that is simply too painful for you to manage?

Fat hurts wrote:

XY wrote:

You got to be kidding me. There is no way this results in impeachment proceedings.

This may be news to you, but impeachment proceedings began two days ago.

Not accurate. Proceedings had not begun when I wrote this. At the time, it was an impeachment inquiry.

Regardless, this obviously will not result in removal and will not tarnish Donald in a significant measure enough to ruin his re-election bid. Donald is probably most worried about his taxes being subpoenaed.

Donald will go down as the lowest character POTUS of all time!

Am I the only one who sees what both Trump and Biden did was wrong?