I have to say this belongs in the Hall of Fame of LetsRun.
Someone described incredibly accurately everything about Flagpole. And here it is ...
"Ummm . . . No.
Seriously, are you EVER right? I mean, EVER?"
This is this very astute individual being very honest with our beloved Flagpole.
This is getting worse and worse for Trump VERY quickly.
1) Trump WILL be impeached. There is no way now this won't happen.
2) I'm not ready to call it just yet, but Republicans are beginning to say this is really bad. There is a greater and greater chance that the Senate will vote to convict.
3) The whistle blower complaint has been declassified, reportedly is being edited for necessary redactions, and will be available to the public VERY soon.
4) There are reportedly MANY witnesses who can and likely will be interviewed regarding the whistle blower complaint.
The quickness of this all speaks to its urgency.
Going to be an interesting few days coming up.
Flagpole wrote:
This is getting worse and worse for Trump VERY quickly.
1) Trump WILL be impeached. There is no way now this won't happen.
2) I'm not ready to call it just yet, but Republicans are beginning to say this is really bad. There is a greater and greater chance that the Senate will vote to convict.
3) The whistle blower complaint has been declassified, reportedly is being edited for necessary redactions, and will be available to the public VERY soon.
4) There are reportedly MANY witnesses who can and likely will be interviewed regarding the whistle blower complaint.
The quickness of this all speaks to its urgency.
Going to be an interesting few days coming up.
It is becoming more and more of a lost cause for the Dems. Sam Stein et al. on MSNBC are acting morose. This whole impeachment thing is like a really bad headache after a long day at the beach. They are hating it because Trump is going nowhere. This is like the best thing ever for Trump. Thanks Democratic losers! LOL
Flagpole wrote:
4) There are reportedly MANY witnesses who can and likely will be interviewed regarding the whistle blower complaint.
The quickness of this all speaks to its urgency.
Going to be an interesting few days coming up.
Are you really this much of a clown? There are reportedly "MANY" witnesses who can and will likely be interviewed regarding the whistle blower complaint?" Are you really this much of a clown? The whistleblower was months ago. There are 6 House Committees acting on Trump's downfall. They have not called this person already? Flagpole, are you really THIS MUCH OF AN IDIOT?
"The Clownpole" will be his name henceforth.
celery wrote:
To those who think the Ukraine phone call is an impeachable offense; does Biden's brag that he with held a billion dollars of US money as a stipulation to get a Ukrainian Prosecutor fired bother you at all? If not, what is the difference in your mind?
FYI: A Vice President has ZERO authority and control of U.S. funding. A VP can only have control if they become president.
Flagpole wrote:
2) I'm not ready to call it just yet, but Republicans are beginning to say this is really bad. There is a greater and greater chance that the Senate will vote to convict.
The Republicans already had a plan for such an event. Cast off Trump. Let him resign, because he keeps his salary and benefits. Let Pence become president, because he is their best chance keep seats in 2020.
Trump attempted to classify the whistleblower complaint. Oops.
Wake up early tomorrow because:
The whistleblower complaint will be posted online. Trump's attempt to classify it failed.
Some redaction may occur, or maybe not. It is doubtful any national secrets are in the complaint. Only embarrassment for Trump.
Look to the news sources for the link in the morning.
Trump's hair is on fire wrote:
Trump attempted to classify the whistleblower complaint. Oops.
Wake up early tomorrow because:
The whistleblower complaint will be posted online. Trump's attempt to classify it failed.
Some redaction may occur, or maybe not. It is doubtful any national secrets are in the complaint. Only embarrassment for Trump.
Look to the news sources for the link in the morning.
Yeah, this is really bad for Trump. I MIGHT make the call tomorrow that the Senate will convict him, OR that Trump will resign. We shall see.
215 of 218 needed, 30 GOP Senators ready to convict wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/09/25/democrats-impeachment-blowback-2020-1509852?__twitter_impression=trueAgreed. Democrats lose again!!!
LOL! Nope. I’ll not be surprised if Trump resigns by next Monday. Dems are very close for the number needed to impeach in the House (218 votes needed, there are already 215 declared impeach votes in the House). Per multiple news outlets, 30(!) GOP Senators are ready to convict based on what they have seen tonight in the whistle blower complaint.
In addition to Romney, Ben Sasse (R-NE) has now made public negative comments about Trump’s Ukraine debacle.
I never thought it would happen but I think we may be witnessing the first removal of a POTUS from office.
Flaggy, ^this dude already called it on page 3463 of this thread (i.e. the prior page). Trump is done. He will either be forced to resign or his lack of critical thinking skills will force the GOP lead Senate to remove him. He will then go to prison along with most of his kids for their many finicial crimes courtesy of the SDNY.
Flagpole wrote:
Trump's hair is on fire wrote:
Trump attempted to classify the whistleblower complaint. Oops.
Wake up early tomorrow because:
The whistleblower complaint will be posted online. Trump's attempt to classify it failed.
Some redaction may occur, or maybe not. It is doubtful any national secrets are in the complaint. Only embarrassment for Trump.
Look to the news sources for the link in the morning.
Yeah, this is really bad for Trump. I MIGHT make the call tomorrow that the Senate will convict him, OR that Trump will resign. We shall see.
Just look at The Clownpole. He's all excited, "we got Trump, he's getting impeached, he's going prison, he's going resign, he's going to lose, yadda, yadda, yadda" LOL!!!!!!!
The Flagpolian Flops never end.
The GOP lacks Fax & Logic wrote:
215 of 218 needed, 30 GOP Senators ready to convict wrote:
LOL! Nope. I’ll not be surprised if Trump resigns by next Monday. Dems are very close for the number needed to impeach in the House (218 votes needed, there are already 215 declared impeach votes in the House). Per multiple news outlets, 30(!) GOP Senators are ready to convict based on what they have seen tonight in the whistle blower complaint.
In addition to Romney, Ben Sasse (R-NE) has now made public negative comments about Trump’s Ukraine debacle.
I never thought it would happen but I think we may be witnessing the first removal of a POTUS from office.
Flaggy, ^this dude already called it on page 3463 of this thread (i.e. the prior page). Trump is done. He will either be forced to resign or his lack of critical thinking skills will force the GOP lead Senate to remove him. He will then go to prison along with most of his kids for their many finicial crimes courtesy of the SDNY.
Ok. I saw that. I'm not positioning myself to be the first one and don't care about that.
I DO need to add (because people here are crazy with trying to discredit others however they can) that the House WILL impeach Trump...UNLESS he resigns first or dies first or there is criminal or space alien behavior that prevents it.
I am not yet ready to call what the Senate might do (if Trump doesn't resign before it gets there). Depending on what happens over the next few days, I MAY do that.
I have already moved from "not a big deal" when this info first broke to it is criminal and impeachable now.
Will be an interesting day tomorrow.
Trump is f*cked.
I think Sally should just keep posting until everyone believes in her!
Flagpole wrote:
Trump's hair is on fire wrote:
Trump attempted to classify the whistleblower complaint. Oops.
Wake up early tomorrow because:
The whistleblower complaint will be posted online. Trump's attempt to classify it failed.
Some redaction may occur, or maybe not. It is doubtful any national secrets are in the complaint. Only embarrassment for Trump.
Look to the news sources for the link in the morning.
Yeah, this is really bad for Trump. I MIGHT make the call tomorrow that the Senate will convict him, OR that Trump will resign. We shall see.
Which Rs will flip? Many belong to "GOP or death" states.
Can the Senate get away with voting anonymously?
Alan
Don’t worry, rigged; HRC isn’t in the line of succession. But she’ll get interviewed a lot.
Sleep in, trumpettes! Long day ahead for you.
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine AM?
So, what’d y’all have for the odds of impeachment now? How about odds of Senate conviction? Resignation prior to conviction?
My sources in Vegas have it at 100%, 30%, and 0% as of last night....
Okay, calm down, everybody. Yes, I detest Donald Trump, but let's get real.
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1) He's not going anywhere soon. (A good thing, IMO--lots of people *still* don't seem to understand how terrible things could get in Mike Pence's Gilead.) His resigning would be an admission of failure, and we've seen enough to realize that that's not something he would be likely to do.
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2) Any House vote on articles of impeachment would be many weeks, likely months away. Some people on both sides are acting like it'll be next Tuesday.
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3) It's not even certain that there *will* be a vote on articles of impeachment; if there is a vote, it could (based on current information) as easily go against those articles as for them: a coin flip (at this point).
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4) All that stuff about "30 GOP senators would convict!" stemmed from *one* secondhand report of *one* senator's ALLEGED observation that if anonymous voting were allowed, 30 Republicans MIGHT vote against DJT.
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5) But anonymous voting in the Senate would *not* be allowed and you could probably count on your thumbs--certainly on your fingers--the GOP senators who would *actually* vote against DJT based on currently-available info. Most Republican senators want to be re-elected, and a vote to convict and remove him from office would end their Senate careers.
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6) So, based on current info, a 2/3 vote in the Senate to convict President Trump is out of the question and it's very possible that the votes to acquit would be an absolute majority.
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To summarize: Take a breath. Unclench that jaw. If a process is starting, it's going to be months--almost certainly well into next year--before it ends. Meanwhile, there's a lot of other, more immediate stuff that needs attending to, like a potential government shutdown. Lots of stuff to take care of NOW while the impeachment inquiry slowly plays out.
Relax, Jackson.