I should have said excess mortality, not just mortality, in my above post.
This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Isn't this your god? Isn't this the embodiment of science on earth?
There's a reason this POS had his net worth more than DOUBLE under COVID.
All while being a government employee.
"Fauci as god" is a creation of anti-vaxxers.
The only ones who have a hard on for Fauci are right wingers and antivaxxers. Hilariously, they then love to turn around and scream at lIbZ and vaxxers for idolizing him when sane people moved on from covid a long, long time ago, maybe only to stop from time to time to laugh at antivaxxers who continue to be unmatched in their ability to put clowns out of work.
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Myles Garrett wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
Why would anyone who has recovered from Covid and so has natural immunity need the jab (which is not vaccine)?
Because immunity is not permanent and it wanes. Got any more brain busters in that big ol’ head of yours?
True of the jab....CDC now says take one every two months.
Natural immunity does not wane.
How many times did kids get measles? Chicken pox?
Now if Covid mutates then we have a different story.
Which it has done - to a much milder form that very few people need worry about.
You can get Covid and then Omicron. No worrie though, far less virulent than the flu
The jab will not help. The original jab did not stop Covid and the latest jab -- which in all likelihood is the original jab -- will not stop Omicron.
Try to reply with logic instead of whining
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More lies from the establishment exposed.
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antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - wrote:
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
"Fauci as god" is a creation of anti-vaxxers.
The only ones who have a hard on for Fauci are right wingers and antivaxxers. Hilariously, they then love to turn around and scream at lIbZ and vaxxers for idolizing him when sane people moved on from covid a long, long time ago, maybe only to stop from time to time to laugh at antivaxxers who continue to be unmatched in their ability to put clowns out of work.
So you have moved on from Covid long ago?
About time.
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carmine9 wrote:
antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - wrote:
The only ones who have a hard on for Fauci are right wingers and antivaxxers. Hilariously, they then love to turn around and scream at lIbZ and vaxxers for idolizing him when sane people moved on from covid a long, long time ago, maybe only to stop from time to time to laugh at antivaxxers who continue to be unmatched in their ability to put clowns out of work.
So you have moved on from Covid long ago?
About time.
Then again, if we all did really move on, all the talk about the vax would stop and there wouldn't be threads like these with unlimited entertainment =)
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antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
So you have moved on from Covid long ago?
About time.
Then again, if we all did really move on, all the talk about the vax would stop and there wouldn't be threads like these with unlimited entertainment =)
So you moved on, but you didn't.
Got it
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antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
So you have moved on from Covid long ago?
About time.
Then again, if we all did really move on, all the talk about the vax would stop and there wouldn't be threads like these with unlimited entertainment =)
I have been sufficiently entertained (and well) for 1,013 out of the 1,015 days of Covid madness. The 2 days I was sick was slightly unpleasant, but I quickly got over it.
ZERO Covid vaccines for me. Did I mention that ?
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jty wrote:
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
To be as clear as possible "correlated with employed people" is the bit for which I'm asking a reference.
Start at 20:35 of the below video. To be more accurate it was those with group life insurance which you have to be employed to have and are generally considered a healthier population than the average. The group life population's mortality rate grew beyond the general population in 2021, which is very unusual.
Thanks for the reply. Do you know of a place where the cited mortality numbers are written down?
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
jty wrote:
Start at 20:35 of the below video. To be more accurate it was those with group life insurance which you have to be employed to have and are generally considered a healthier population than the average. The group life population's mortality rate grew beyond the general population in 2021, which is very unusual.
Thanks for the reply. Do you know of a place where the cited mortality numbers are written down?
This is the crux. If we are only looking at crappy data & aren’t allowed to parse all of it with a reasonable degree of skepticism, then we aren’t doing science. Something has been amiss. But, nothing to see here, move along. The CDC’s data is pristine. Give me a break.
Control group. Glad we have it.
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"safe & effective"
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"safe & effective"
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Mr. "I am the science" and the "Sexiest Man Alive" says, "“It’s Nice that Some People Idolize Me and Put Me on a Pedestal":
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Finally! Books worth burning!
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Yikes!
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Delta wave lol.
Things change buddy. You seem incapable of grasping this.
Just because I am no longer in favor of broad vaccine mandates because most people have some form of immunity and protection against transmission is weaker doesn't mean they didn't make sense earlier in the pandemic (and still make sense in many settings).
It's entirely possible, and admirable to change your mind when faced with new data. It's not admitting defeat -- only if youre politically brainwashed do you think that's the case. But hey, this is the exact kind of boneheaded ideology that turned the Red Wave into a little ripple so I'm not gonna complain if you continue this laughable stubbornness. What a baffoon.
It is laughable that you think science has ever had anything to do with the pro-vaxxer crowds messaging.
The COVID vaccine is entirely about profit. That's why they are desperate to force it on people who do not need it.
The COVID vaccine has saved >20 million lives worldwide.
Sorry, I am a capitalist, unlike you. I believe if you invent a product that saves 20 million lives in a year.. you should get very rich.
If you're upset with that, move to China or something. Their vaccines don't work.
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Summary of the last dozens of pages:
Harambe - provides scientific studies and data
Anti-vaxxxxxxers - provide tweets and memes.
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Covidiocy wrote:
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Do you know of a place where the cited mortality numbers are written down?
This is the crux. If we are only looking at crappy data & aren’t allowed to parse all of it with a reasonable degree of skepticism, then we aren’t doing science. Something has been amiss. But, nothing to see here, move along. The CDC’s data is pristine. Give me a break.
Quite literally this. Are you kidding me?
If you are alleging the vaccine is actually quite deadly and there is a conspiracy of a cover up... you should bring the facts and data to prove it.
The CDC's data is not perfect but at least it exists. You are, as usual, alleging something for which you have no evidence beyond anecdotes for.
The first day of any science education begins with the extreme risks of confirmation bias and the need to gather and analyze data in a judicious manner.
I guess you skipped that one.
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Better late than never. There are the doctors and scientists who didn't take the shot in the first place, and there are those who took it and have died, or are sick and dying or soon enough will be.
Former Australian Medical Association President Dr. Kerryn Phelps has finally broken her silence about the “devastating” side effects she and her wife experienced after receiving the Covid vaccine. She criticized regulators for their attempts to control the public by threatening the doctors.
Professor Kerryn Phelps was an outspoken advocate of mass Covid vaccinations for both adults and kids.
She participated in multiple interviews and panels pushing the vaccine.The nationally-renowned doctor and marriage equality advocate revealed that both she and her wife had suffered serious and ongoing injuries as a result of Covid vaccines, according to News.com.
She said the true number of adverse events is much greater than reported, citing underreporting and “threats” from medical authorities. She pleaded for an Australian parliamentary committee to examine dangers of the mRNA vaccines on Monday. Their risks go far beyond their known dangers of myocarditis, and both she and her wife personally suffered long-term side effects following their Pfizer jabs, she said.
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Harambe wrote:
Covidiocy wrote:
This is the crux. If we are only looking at crappy data & aren’t allowed to parse all of it with a reasonable degree of skepticism, then we aren’t doing science. Something has been amiss. But, nothing to see here, move along. The CDC’s data is pristine. Give me a break.
Quite literally this. Are you kidding me?
If you are alleging the vaccine is actually quite deadly and there is a conspiracy of a cover up... you should bring the facts and data to prove it.
The CDC's data is not perfect but at least it exists. You are, as usual, alleging something for which you have no evidence beyond anecdotes for.
I’m not alleging anything. However, said anecdotes, which I’ve mentioned multiple times that I’ve seen in my own inner circle at a higher-than-coincidental rate, are the basis for further investigation when something seems amiss. The same anecdotes that compelled an Ed Dowd to go combing through life insurance stats, actuarial tables, BLS data, and funeral home data. But, when he raises an alarm bell, he is quite literally cancelled. Many doctors who offer a dissenting opinion different from Big Pharma and its FDA subsidiary get cancelled and castigated. That’s the way it works.
However, I am, with absolute certainty given my age, fitness, lack of comorbidities, etc quite happy to be in the control group. You act, as you have from the beginning, like everyone on here is a septuagenarian diabetic with COPD. That’s the problem.
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