Sally Vix wrote:
Are you the stupidest person ever???!
Can't be because it is a tie between you and Rigged assuming you're different posters.
Sally Vix wrote:
Are you the stupidest person ever???!
Can't be because it is a tie between you and Rigged assuming you're different posters.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
No deal.
But Tiny IS going to prison.
Then stop making bold predictions. You will flop just like Clownpole.
It's not a very bold prediction.
Tiny has committed many, many crimes.
He won't be protected by the presidency forever.
Therefore, Tiny is going to prison.
Sally Vixxxxxens wrote:
This could be a game changer -
https://www.axios.com/nancy-pelosi-trump-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-2ae15fd7-83c1-47a4-ab0c-87e28e9ff5ff.htmlWhy aren't you Libs up-in-arms at Hillary asking for dirt on Trump when he asked for dirt on Hillary and/or on Biden's son? It is idiotic the double standard.
All candidates do opposition research. That's what Hillary did.
Tiny used taxpayer money to bribe a foreign government. That's what Tiny did.
Let me explain to you the view of many of my fellow educated and enlightened republicans. Over the weekend I talked politics with three other successful Republican businessmen. Although our opinions varied there was much agreement.
All of us hate Trump. None of us feel he is of CEO quality but that he did have great understanding how to brand, merchandise and sell. He would be great heading marketing although his skills have diminished in this area. But Trump is a corrupt habitual liar and all educated republicans know this.
But here's the rub. We are life long republicans and feel the democrats can not make tough decisions and they legislate like indulgent grandparents. They can't say no. Erase student debt, free insurance and tuition for illegals, reparations, it's crazy stuff.
Our opinions about changing insurance varies. Our companies would love not to have to provide employee insurance. But the democrats are fooling themselves, public insurance will still need to evaluate and often deny services when not appropriate. They just won't be as good at it.
Sally Vixxxxxens wrote:
Are You Serious? wrote:
You are one gullible stupid mother f*cker.
What is with you Libs and name-calling and profanities? You seem to have so much hostility and anger. Never a good duo.
Shut up dumb dumb.
Night observer wrote:
Our opinions about changing insurance varies. Our companies would love not to have to provide employee insurance. But the democrats are fooling themselves, public insurance will still need to evaluate and often deny services when not appropriate. They just won't be as good at it.
Government is already very good at this. It's called Medicare! Medicare is the best insurance coverage you can get in the United States.
What we have now is a patchwork of private insurance plans that deny coverage far more often and are MUCH more expensive.
So let's ditch private insurance and put everyone on Medicare. Then your company won't have to provide expensive coverage to your employees. And, your employees get better coverage. Everybody wins!
Night observer wrote:
Let me explain to you the view of many of my fellow educated and enlightened republicans. Over the weekend I talked politics with three other successful Republican businessmen. Although our opinions varied there was much agreement.
All of us hate Trump. None of us feel he is of CEO quality but that he did have great understanding how to brand, merchandise and sell. He would be great heading marketing although his skills have diminished in this area. But Trump is a corrupt habitual liar and all educated republicans know this.
But here's the rub. We are life long republicans and feel the democrats can not make tough decisions and they legislate like indulgent grandparents. They can't say no. Erase student debt, free insurance and tuition for illegals, reparations, it's crazy stuff.
Our opinions about changing insurance varies. Our companies would love not to have to provide employee insurance. But the democrats are fooling themselves, public insurance will still need to evaluate and often deny services when not appropriate. They just won't be as good at it.
That is the first sensible Republican comment here in a LONG time. I am glad to see it.
Some things:
1) I am glad to hear that you hate Trump, but your hatred SHOULD also be felt at the ballot box, and I hope it is. He, and his Republican cohorts, have skyrocketed the national debt. You Republicans at least used to SAY you cared about fiscal responsibility. That mantra is gone now until the Republicans rebrand. And, Trump's criminality and serial lying and incompetence should just be too much for you to support on any level...much worse than voting for a Democrat whom you just disagree with on policy issues.
2) I am a Democrat, and I am NOT for erasing student debt. BUT, the silver lining there is something that Republicans SHOULD support. It is putting more spending money in the pockets of those students, and Republicans ALWAYS say that when that happens (like with tax cuts), the economy benefits. So, dislike the method here (I do dislike it too because it is leaving out too many people who don't get such a benefit), but accept the silver lining.
3) Your assertion of how liberals view and will treat "illegals" is incorrect, so I won't comment on that other than to say your assertion is not correct.
4) Reparations - I would want to see a plan for this...how much is it, how will it be paid for, etc. I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand (there will be many hands here), no one alive in the US enslaved anyone (not legally anyway). Our country has made that illegal a long time ago now. On the other hand, it is a way for our country to put money where its mouth is with regard to apologizing to African Americans for something that was so heinous and has kept them treated as second-class citizens by many up until today. On the third and final hand, reparations will make some people believe that African Americans can never again complain about their lot in life here in the US. But, reparations won't remove racism, so African Americans will still be treated unfairly by police, and by regular citizens...at least for a long time yet. This has the potential to further enrage some white disenfranchised people, and while they should suck it up and quit being babies, dealing with that for a while would be a negative.
5) There would be growing pains with public insurance. I think it can be done well though. Other countries do it and do it well. We should be able to do it. Private insurance companies would sill exist for people to buy extra insurance if they want too. My parents are old enough for Medicare, but they also have additional insurance.
I will not ridicule you or badger you no matter what you say to this, but I am interested to know if you will vote for Trump in 2020.
My fellow Republican friends thought I would be stupid to vote warren with the idea of none of her plans getting passed and having a good Republican win in 2024.
My friends think trump represents many of the newer breed of CEO's that want to show short term profit for stock holders at the expense of long term growth. They are not sold on the long term benefit of a trump economy. They think it's shaky.
But if they think the Senate and the house turn Democrat they will vote for trump. If they think the Senate stays Republican a couple would consider the moderate democrats.
None of us are happy with the options. Trump is a corrupt fool and the democrats are just indulgent grandparents not up to make making tough decisions.
hello boys - I was away for the weekend. Anything happen?
"Since Trump’s inauguration, a Washington Post analysis shows, nearly 40 percent of the 241 Republicans who were in office in January 2017 are gone or leaving because of election losses, retirements including former House speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.), and some, such as Mitchell, who are simply quitting in disgust."
Republicans have to be rooting for Trump to lose so they can get their party back.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Earth to Fat boy, Mueller time is over.
Pencil neck Schiff: "I have spoken with a number of my colleagues over the last week, and this seems different in kind. We may very well have crossed the rubicon here."
Schiff has no problem with Biden enriching his son in Ukraine but hates it when Trump points it out.
LMAO!!
KAG2020
Still can't face it, huh?
Tiny is going to prison.
When is Tiny going to prison? We have been hearing this for 3 years. We have been hearing how he will be impeached for 3 years. We have been hearing how he will be removed from the presidency for 3 years. We have been hearing how everything around him is unraveling for 3 years. We have been hearing how everyone close to him is turning on him for 3 years. We heave been hearing how the Mueller investigation will be his downfall for 3 years. Donald Trump IS still the president. The MUeller Investigation HAS COME AND GONE with nothing. Jerry Nadler has been barking a lot but has nothing. Adam Schiff has been barking a lot but has nothing. Donald Trump is my president and is YOUR president for another year and possibly another 5 years. What do YOU have to say about that???
agip wrote:
hello boys - I was away for the weekend. Anything happen?
Ha!
Nothing surprising. Just more corruption as I predicted from this president. What the Trumpers here refuse to either admit or understand is that Donald Trump is a criminal. If he gets away with something, he doesn't stop being a criminal, so there will be something else that he does that is criminal, and eventually he will be caught. The other thing about Trump is that he never reads anything or studies anything, so he doesn't even 100% understand what is within the realm of acceptability. Ignorance is no excuse for that of course, and he DOES understand enough to know he's a crook...just not enough to know HOW much of a crook he is.
Fat hurts wrote:
Night observer wrote:
Our opinions about changing insurance varies. Our companies would love not to have to provide employee insurance. But the democrats are fooling themselves, public insurance will still need to evaluate and often deny services when not appropriate. They just won't be as good at it.
Government is already very good at this. It's called Medicare!
Ask literally anyone in healthcare, Democrat or Republican, if Medicare policies are reasonable, well thought out, and generally not a complete sh!t show.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
hello boys - I was away for the weekend. Anything happen?
Ha!
Nothing surprising. Just more corruption as I predicted from this president. What the Trumpers here refuse to either admit or understand is that Donald Trump is a criminal. If he gets away with something, he doesn't stop being a criminal, so there will be something else that he does that is criminal, and eventually he will be caught. The other thing about Trump is that he never reads anything or studies anything, so he doesn't even 100% understand what is within the realm of acceptability. Ignorance is no excuse for that of course, and he DOES understand enough to know he's a crook...just not enough to know HOW much of a crook he is.
You predicted he would be impeached by now - Not happened.
You predicted he would not finish out his term - Not likely.
You predicted he would not win the 2016 election - Wrong.
You predicted the Mueller investigation would bring him down - Wrong.
You predicted Hillary would defeat him - Wrong.
You predicted he would be in prison by now - Wrong.
I don't even have time to list all your other wrong predictions.
Which of your predictions have been right? List them all here _______ Thanks!
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Government is already very good at this. It's called Medicare!
Ask literally anyone in healthcare, Democrat or Republican, if Medicare policies are reasonable, well thought out, and generally not a complete sh!t show.
eh sorta
the money medicare gives to hospitals is low. If more people went on medicare, if the reimbursement rates stayed the same, much of the health care industry would go out of business. Private healthcare has kept the healthcare industry afloat...medicare works yeah because it is a free rider.
So if medicare expanded, the cost to enroll would have to go up a lot.
some juicy tidbits from an opinion piece on Fox News.com:
As of today, Donald Trump is now the least liked president in almost 40 years.
The September NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday shows that 69 percent of voters dislike Trump. That is a toxic level in any race let alone one for the presidency.
It is impossible to improve that sentiment to less than 50 percent in the remaining 14 months before the 2020 election. Prior to this poll, the highest dislike of a president was 42 percent for George W. Bush after Hurricane Katrina in March 2006.
In the same poll, 49 percent say they’re very uncomfortable with Trump’s 2020 candidacy. That’s compared with 41 percent for Bernie Sanders and 33 percent apiece for Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. Furthermore, a record 50 percent dislike Trump and his policies.
Other polls show Trump losing a general election to any of the top five Democratic candidates for president.
Clearly Trump’s reelection is in trouble. And it may explain why Trump allegedly sought foreign assistance against Joe Biden, the front-runner in the crowded Democratic primary field. That should concern every American.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-reelection-trouble-mary-anne-marsh
agip wrote:
some juicy tidbits from an opinion piece on Fox News.com:
As of today, Donald Trump is now the least liked president in almost 40 years.
The September NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday shows that 69 percent of voters dislike Trump. That is a toxic level in any race let alone one for the presidency.
It is impossible to improve that sentiment to less than 50 percent in the remaining 14 months before the 2020 election. Prior to this poll, the highest dislike of a president was 42 percent for George W. Bush after Hurricane Katrina in March 2006.
In the same poll, 49 percent say they’re very uncomfortable with Trump’s 2020 candidacy. That’s compared with 41 percent for Bernie Sanders and 33 percent apiece for Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. Furthermore, a record 50 percent dislike Trump and his policies.
Other polls show Trump losing a general election to any of the top five Democratic candidates for president.
Clearly Trump’s reelection is in trouble. And it may explain why Trump allegedly sought foreign assistance against Joe Biden, the front-runner in the crowded Democratic primary field. That should concern every American.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-reelection-trouble-mary-anne-marsh
Wrong again, Agip! Bush's disapproval rating was 71% on 10/10/08. Please try to minimize your errors!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_ratingFat hurts wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxens wrote:
This could be a game changer -
https://www.axios.com/nancy-pelosi-trump-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-2ae15fd7-83c1-47a4-ab0c-87e28e9ff5ff.htmlWhy aren't you Libs up-in-arms at Hillary asking for dirt on Trump when he asked for dirt on Hillary and/or on Biden's son? It is idiotic the double standard.
All candidates do opposition research. That's what Hillary did.
Tiny used taxpayer money to bribe a foreign government. That's what Tiny did.
Sally is too stupid to understand this concept.
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Still can't face it, huh?
Tiny is going to prison.
When is Tiny going to prison? We have been hearing this for 3 years. We have been hearing how he will be impeached for 3 years. We have been hearing how he will be removed from the presidency for 3 years. We have been hearing how everything around him is unraveling for 3 years. We have been hearing how everyone close to him is turning on him for 3 years. We heave been hearing how the Mueller investigation will be his downfall for 3 years. Donald Trump IS still the president. The MUeller Investigation HAS COME AND GONE with nothing. Jerry Nadler has been barking a lot but has nothing. Adam Schiff has been barking a lot but has nothing. Donald Trump is my president and is YOUR president for another year and possibly another 5 years. What do YOU have to say about that???
Ah...I see the idiot racist wanker is back telling lies and clinging to hope. You are so f*cking stupid. You have been told several times by several blokes here that the US House of Representatives is investigating Trump for the purposes of impeachment based primarily on the findings in the Mueller Report. That is not nothing, you wanker. Trump's continued corruption is what gives anything new he does instant fuel for impeachment. You should be concerned that your US President has once again sought the help from a foreign country to try to win an election. This time he is using US taxpayer dollars to try to bribe another country into doing his dirty deeds. He's a criminal, mate. You are an idiot racist wanker.