Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

kibitzer wrote:

Uh huh. Sure. They were just off by ten percentage points or so in 2018, that's all. From Wiki:

(paraphrased - Rasmussen was wrong by a mind-blowing margin). . . Ultimately, Rasmussen have not articulated any significant changes to their methodology after their significant miss [in] 2018, choosing instead to attack those who discuss the matter and citing "bad actors" who "create chaos."

Doesn't sound like anyone we know, does it?

kibitzer wrote:

Interesting op-ed in today's NYTimes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/opinion/republicans-democracy-play-dirty.html

Before I read it I’ll take a wild guess: they cheat because their previous political strategy was not effective. When you have a broken foundation with draconian values you are bound to fail over time. What is left is fear mongering and finger pointing, being openly hypocritical because “they” do it too. The GOP is a cesspool.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Ciro wrote:

So let’s say for arguments sake that is appropriate and a damning reflection on Biden and his bid for the presidency. Why are you in stark contrast so willing to give Trump, Don Jr, Ivanka, Jared & Eric a pass?

That’s the hypocrisy I don’t get.

No, I think you have done a good job on Trump and Republicans. The point you miss are the Democrats are just as corrupt. You and your fellow posters rant on day after day as if their is virtue in the Democratic party.

It is one thing to say people are dishonest on both sides, but to say say the trump administration and its enablers are just as corrupt as the democrats is classic false equivalency. You have listened to Trump. The democrats don't have a prominent figure like the lying and proud of it Lewandowski. Nobody hides from the truth as much as Trump. You really don't think that there is equivalency of corrupt behavior here.

I believe you are smart enough to know this is not true.

Head bopper wrote:

Ok so you are not willing to give a pass to Warren’s little lie...

NO--a lie is "a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive."

Warren's from Oklahoma, where her family's been for generations. She was told by her family that they had Indian blood, and she believed it--entirely reasonable in Oklahoma.

I was brought up similarly. My father and sister both have dark coloring and we children were told it was because of his (and hence our) partial Indian genetic heritage. Turns out (according to 23 & Me, anyway) that that was wrong--but my father didn't *lie* about it: He genuinely and reasonably believed it was true.

Cesspool wrote:

Before I read it I’ll take a wild guess: they cheat because their previous political strategy was not effective. When you have a broken foundation with draconian values you are bound to fail over time. What is left is fear mongering and finger pointing, being openly hypocritical because “they” do it too. The GOP is a cesspool.

I read the piece and it's a little more nuanced. Here's part:

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"[F]or parties to accept losing, two conditions must hold. First, they must feel secure that losing today will not bring ruinous consequences; and second, they must believe they have a reasonable chance of winning again in the future."

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The article explores both of these points and shows why neither of them is met for the current GOP. It is deeply afraid of what will happen when it loses power, and it (reasonably IMHO) thinks that once out of power, it will never get back in, at least not as currently constituted. So it will do whatever it can get away with (gerrymandering, voter suppression, fearmongering, simple lying, and so on) to at least remain in power in the short term.

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But there's more to it than that and I do recommend the piece.

So you Democrats read high quality and informative articles like this while the trumpers frequent ZH to laugh at cartoons.... now it’s making sense as a foreigner

American times wrote:

So you Democrats read high quality and informative articles like this while the trumpers frequent ZH to laugh at cartoons.... now it’s making sense as a foreigner

This is somewhat fair, I suppose. Except that I'm no Democrat.

So you Trumpers read fake quality and non-informative articles from Zerohedge filled with pro-Trump nonsense while the people with functioning brains read real news.... now it’s making sense as a foreigner.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Ciro,

By the way, this morning, heading to the Boise Foothills to do an eight mile trail run. This one is slightly east of the Military Reserve and has about 800 feet in elevation to climb. One probably climbs another 200 on the trail out, so should be a challenge. The weather is nice and fall like. Hope you are well.

Igy

Hope it was a good run.

With you 100% on the military industrial complex.

It’s great to see the government dictating the narrative to Universities for Israel’s benefit.

America first (after Israel, Russia & Saudi Arabia)

https://news.yahoo.com/u-orders-2-universities-recast-122858336.html

Pookie Washington wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

For anyone who's curious, Trump's approval rating is ACTUALLY about 42% at present--and it has never yet reached 50%, which is just unheard of in good economic times.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Don’t be fooled by these polls. Anybody with half a brain knows Trump is a lying, corrupt, racist piece of shittttt BUT there are many many white folks out here who will go in that voting booth and pull the lever for him anyway. They are embarrassed to publicly admit they support him but they have decided that being a racist and a liar is not a deal breaker.

President Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image. Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure.

Sally Vix wrote:

President Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image. Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure.

Ummm, no, Sally Gurl. Per RCP, a conservative biased site,

Obama 2011 (3rd year) -- Approve 46.5, disapprove 47.9, Spread -1.4

Trump 2019 (3rd year) -- Approve 44.7, disapprove 52.9, Spread -8.2

CONGRATS TRUMP CULT!

YOU’RE NOW WILLING TO GO TO WAR FOR THE COUNTRY THAT SPONSORED THE 9/11 ATTACKS!

A nice little job for Stephen Millers girlfriend.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stephen-millers-girlfriend-just-got-a-job-as-vice-president-mike-pences-press-secretary-2019-09-19?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

Some of the finest swamp draining never seen.

Ciro wrote:

CONGRATS TRUMP CULT!

YOU’RE NOW WILLING TO GO TO WAR FOR THE COUNTRY THAT SPONSORED THE 9/11 ATTACKS!

No, Bin Laden financed 9/11. If it had been Saudi Arabia, it would have become our 51st state.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Ciro wrote:

CONGRATS TRUMP CULT!

YOU’RE NOW WILLING TO GO TO WAR FOR THE COUNTRY THAT SPONSORED THE 9/11 ATTACKS!

No, Bin Laden financed 9/11. If it had been Saudi Arabia, it would have become our 51st state.

And yet the victims families are suing Saudi Arabia. They had a strong hand in the terror attack.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Ciro wrote:

CONGRATS TRUMP CULT!

YOU’RE NOW WILLING TO GO TO WAR FOR THE COUNTRY THAT SPONSORED THE 9/11 ATTACKS!

No, Bin Laden financed 9/11. If it had been Saudi Arabia, it would have become our 51st state.

Oh, then what possible justification does Trump have for banning ALL Muslims from the U.S. because of the actions of a few?

Major Poles wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

President Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image. Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure.

Ummm, no, Sally Gurl. Per RCP, a conservative biased site,

Obama 2011 (3rd year) -- Approve 46.5, disapprove 47.9, Spread -1.4

Trump 2019 (3rd year) -- Approve 44.7, disapprove 52.9, Spread -8.2

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Dumb@ss Sally, do you ever get tired of being proven wrong? You never get anything right, and your posts are steeped in ignorance and stupidity. You waste everyone's time here. Wanker.