As far as I know, some here would still be claiming this is little more than a "bear market rally" (their words, not mine). And that view has never been retracted.
Not sure how that would fit in there, but I have not told a lie in my adult life.
WHOA!
Would that be a little backpeddling there? Hmmm?
Now we are limiting the lying, are we? To your adult life, we are now to believe?
Because I seem to recollect you claimed you never lied "ever", adult and otherwise.
Let's see, oh look what I found!:
Flagpole on Down Goes The Dow, 12/28/20 10:47 AM wrote:
Flagpole wrote: You lose, Sally. You will NEVER catch me in a lie, NEVER...because I do not EVER lie. You keep trying though.
When you say you DO not lie EVER, that means NOW and forward. I have stated a ton of times that I have not lied in "my adult life." A child isn't fully responsible for bad behavior.
You can reference these links as just a few instances of me talking about not lying "in my adult life":
Not sure how that would fit in there, but I have not told a lie in my adult life.
You just told one there.
Nope! I have not told a lie in my adult life. We are all responsible for our behavior, and the mantra that "everyone lies" is just not true. I do not, and have not in my adult life which is going on 40 years now. Not even a white lie.
Now we are limiting the lying, are we? To your adult life, we are now to believe?
Because I seem to recollect you claimed you never lied "ever", adult and otherwise.
Let's see, oh look what I found!:
Nice catch Seattle. I am 105% sure that the lovely Missus Flagpole has caught her lovely husband many times lying during their marriage. The poor lady.
That would be impossible since I do not lie...and have not told a single lie in my adult life.
Now we are limiting the lying, are we? To your adult life, we are now to believe?
Because I seem to recollect you claimed you never lied "ever", adult and otherwise.
Let's see, oh look what I found!:
When you say you DO not lie EVER, that means NOW and forward. I have stated a ton of times that I have not lied in "my adult life." A child isn't fully responsible for bad behavior.
You can reference these links as just a few instances of me talking about not lying "in my adult life":
When you say you DO not lie EVER, that means NOW and forward. I have stated a ton of times that I have not lied in "my adult life." A child isn't fully responsible for bad behavior.
You can reference these links as just a few instances of me talking about not lying "in my adult life":
So...sorry, but Sally is wrong again...of course he is. I already clarified this.
okay, I guess that pretty much goes without saying.
I find being honest with people pays dividends, to coin a phrase....
Not lying isn't about being honest with people. It is about integrity. Lots of people happily are "honest with people," because that allows them to be rude if they want to be. When they don't lie to protect themselves is where righteousness and integrity comes into play.
okay, I guess that pretty much goes without saying.
I find being honest with people pays dividends, to coin a phrase....
Not lying isn't about being honest with people. It is about integrity. Lots of people happily are "honest with people," because that allows them to be rude if they want to be. When they don't lie to protect themselves is where righteousness and integrity comes into play.
I'm going to have to mull that over a little, but I amended my previous post about being totally forthcoming, and that may be bear on the whole integrity discussion...
Not lying isn't about being honest with people. It is about integrity. Lots of people happily are "honest with people," because that allows them to be rude if they want to be. When they don't lie to protect themselves is where righteousness and integrity comes into play.
I'm going to have to mull that over a little, but I amended my previous post about being totally forthcoming, and that may be bear on the whole integrity discussion...
I'm going to have to mull that over a little, but I amended my previous post about being totally forthcoming, and that may be bear on the whole integrity discussion...
My integrity is intact.
And so are the dividends in the DJIA Total Return computation.
And so are the dividends in the DJIA Total Return computation.
Perhaps, but I can compare my returns to anything I like. Like I said before, this isn't a contest with rules. We didn't all decide to do it a certain way and then I did it differently.
The DJIA goes up or down each calendar year. Most of the stocks in the DJIA give dividends. Not all of mine do, and the fact that I choose to reinvest my dividends is a choice that I don't have to make, especially now since I am retired.
I can compare my returns to the Dow in the manner that I do. I can compare my returns to the percentage of sunny days in Boulder, CO. I can compare my returns to anything I like. Hilarious that some of you get your panties in a bunch over this when I have said time and time again that I am a passive investor, I don't go on and on about great stock trades I made like most of you do. I just simply invest and have heavily done so uninterrupted since 1989. It's the consistency and amount of money invested over such a long period of time that makes me unique among this group, not my comparison method.
And so are the dividends in the DJIA Total Return computation.
Perhaps, but I can compare my returns to anything I like. Like I said before, this isn't a contest with rules. We didn't all decide to do it a certain way and then I did it differently.
The DJIA goes up or down each calendar year. Most of the stocks in the DJIA give dividends. Not all of mine do, and the fact that I choose to reinvest my dividends is a choice that I don't have to make, especially now since I am retired.
I can compare my returns to the Dow in the manner that I do. I can compare my returns to the percentage of sunny days in Boulder, CO. I iecan compare my returns to anything I like. Hilarious that some of you get your panties in a bunch over this when I have said time and time again that I am a passive investor, I don't go on and on about great stock trades I made like most of you do. I just simply invest and have heavily done so uninterrupted since 1989. It's the consistency and amount of money invested over such a long period of time that makes me unique among this group, not my comparison method.
You can do whatever you want but please don't say your portfolio continually beats the Dow Jones. Your portfolio (in your make-believe world) beats a make-believe number that you make up. I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be this dumb. And I say that lovingly.
Perhaps, but I can compare my returns to anything I like. Like I said before, this isn't a contest with rules. We didn't all decide to do it a certain way and then I did it differently.
The DJIA goes up or down each calendar year. Most of the stocks in the DJIA give dividends. Not all of mine do, and the fact that I choose to reinvest my dividends is a choice that I don't have to make, especially now since I am retired.
I can compare my returns to the Dow in the manner that I do. I can compare my returns to the percentage of sunny days in Boulder, CO. I iecan compare my returns to anything I like. Hilarious that some of you get your panties in a bunch over this when I have said time and time again that I am a passive investor, I don't go on and on about great stock trades I made like most of you do. I just simply invest and have heavily done so uninterrupted since 1989. It's the consistency and amount of money invested over such a long period of time that makes me unique among this group, not my comparison method.
You can do whatever you want but please don't say your portfolio continually beats the Dow Jones. Your portfolio (in your make-believe world) beats a make-believe number that you make up. I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be this dumb. And I say that lovingly.
Let's check it today! (not including today's results)
Dow YTD: UP 18.77%
Flagpole YTD: UP 21.39%
Percentage of people who are stupid who voted for Trump: 100%
You can do whatever you want but please don't say your portfolio continually beats the Dow Jones. Your portfolio (in your make-believe world) beats a make-believe number that you make up. I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be this dumb. And I say that lovingly.
Let's check it today! (not including today's results)
Dow YTD: UP 18.77%
Flagpole YTD: UP 21.39%
Percentage of people who are stupid who voted for Trump: 100%
You can do whatever you want but please don't say your portfolio continually beats the Dow Jones. Your portfolio (in your make-believe world) beats a make-believe number that you make up. I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be this dumb. And I say that lovingly.
Let's check it today! (not including today's results)
Dow YTD: UP 18.77%
Flagpole YTD: UP 21.39%
Percentage of people who are stupid who voted for Trump: 100%
YTD total return for your portfolio - 21.55% (the accuracy of that number is dubious)
The Dow Jones is putting a major hurt on your portfolio.
You said your portfolio was 21.55% yesterday and today it is 21.39%? But how did it go down when both the NASDAQ and S & P were up today? Only the Dow was down today. That seems very odd.
And so are the dividends in the DJIA Total Return computation.
Perhaps, but I can compare my returns to anything I like. Like I said before, this isn't a contest with rules. We didn't all decide to do it a certain way and then I did it differently.
The DJIA goes up or down each calendar year. Most of the stocks in the DJIA give dividends. Not all of mine do, and the fact that I choose to reinvest my dividends is a choice that I don't have to make, especially now since I am retired.
I can compare my returns to the Dow in the manner that I do. I can compare my returns to the percentage of sunny days in Boulder, CO. I can compare my returns to anything I like. Hilarious that some of you get your panties in a bunch over this when I have said time and time again that I am a passive investor, I don't go on and on about great stock trades I made like most of you do. I just simply invest and have heavily done so uninterrupted since 1989. It's the consistency and amount of money invested over such a long period of time that makes me unique among this group, not my comparison method.
The reason I keep mentioning being forthcoming is because I find it lacking when you measure your returns against an index, yet you insist on changing the rules on how you measure them.
If you include dividends in your portfolio return calculation anyone with a brain would consider that you would also do so with the index. Otherwise, the comparison is - get this - meaningless.
That you would keep the measurement criteria consistent between the two calculations is assumed by anyone and everyone.
If you insist upon making a dissimilar comparison, for whatever reason, you should be forthcoming to the extent of disclosing the different measures employed. And failing to do so (diclosing the different methodologies) is misleading and disingenuous, and borders on an untruth (if not a lie).
Nothing you say will change the circumstances of what I have outlined here.
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