Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's?

Why waste your time replying and adding to the negativity? I just presented my opinion that you are making fake posts that complement yourself. The fact that you jump on every critcism against you rather than ignoring the criticism shows me that you are obsessed with it. Some people love what you have to say, some don't. How about just saying what you have to say about Bekele and leaving it at that.

Oh, and to keep with the theme of this thread, I'm going to predict a 26:25 for Bekele at Hengelo.

get help wrote:

We should really from this point on avoid insulting Vipam because his teenage fan club takes umbrage. And no, no one would notice except you and 4-5 others, perhaps.

Why don't you speak on your own behalf?

Here are my predictions:

3000m

El Guerrouj 7:25.

Kipchoge 7:26.

5000m

Augustine Choge 12:50.

Sileshi Sihine 12:52.

10000m

Bekele 26:17

I think the 3000 will be the best race, even though there won't be a world record. I just keep thinking about Athens and with the way El Guerrouj ran there still clear in my head, I just can't pick against him.

ds-man wrote:

As for the records, I agree that 26:22 and 12:39 won't be touched. Bekele may eventually hit around low 26:40s and 12:45 or so, but that's it.

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Thanks I put the top back on the rubber cement and guess what Regina still beat Suzy. Oh wait there is a knock on my door! -KNOCK - KNOCK -.

Okay I am back, it was just the police asking me if I would be a witness to the numerous times Regina have stalked and beat the mess out of Suzy! I told them they could get anyone to be a witness for the whole world knows of the repeated offenses.

Vipam

Is there a reason people don't/can't like Regina Jacobs and Suzy Hamilton? As far as drugs Regina has never been convicted of cheating; however, wasn't OUR precious Mary banned for EXECESSIVE male hormone before? It doesn't take much to come up with acquistions as to why one think Regina or Suzy are or have done drugs; however, until the USATF, IAAF, or IOC convicts them the allegations are meaningless!

Suzy is a great runner, but REGINA is better (neither are on any illegal substance)!

Vipam

I think I'll email her website so that she can ignore me like she's ignoring the signs that she won't get any faster in the 1500m!

Vipam

(Regina's #1 fan)

Okay folks

Everyone who reads this board knows that I respect Regina Jacobs and commend her accomplishments until now. While looking at the All-Time list for the women's 800m, 1500m,

and 5000m it hit me Regina's stupid! The last few years Regina has been chasing the elusive 4 minute barrier for the women's 1500 and running the 1500m instead of the 5000m

in MAJOR Championships. Here's why Regina running the wrong event:

1. She have not improved upon her personnal best of 4:00.1

in SEVERAL years, while the other top 1500m runners are making sub 4 minutes common ground.

2. She have showed tremendous ability in the 5000m 14:45.35 (personal best is 24th best PERFORMER ever) off limited experienced! Of the 23 individuals who are faster than Regina 13 have retired or moved up in distance!

3. At age 39 she probably won't be making any dramatic increases in speed; however, her current speed would bold

well in the 5000m.

4. She have tested herself against the best in the 1500m and never won Olympic/World Outdoor Gold**, yet never tested herself against top 5000m runners (her 14:45.35 came in a solo effort in Sacremento).

I think someone need to sit Regina down and tell her to move up or retire!!

Vipam

Regina Jacobs the Greatest American female distance runner EVER!

Countless Americans records, 11 outdoors 1500m titles and have added an 800m and 5000m US Championship title! First sub 4 minute 1500m by a female, first female to break all three magical barriers for the 800m-2 minutes, 1500m-4 minutes, and 5000m-15 minutes! Regina may have the largest fan base in America; however, she is the most successful and Incomparable in respect to her range. SHE HAS EARNED HER PLACE AS ONE OF THE BEST FEMALE DISTANCE RUNNERS EVER!

Vipam

I still can't believe that Hicham will show up in Hengelo to run against Kipchoge. They say Hicham's shape is not so good....did he not hear about the 7:28 in Doha?

Sihine has already pulled out. Maybe he heard about the Doha race!

Sihine will be running the 5000m in Hengelo against Augustine Choge, was he ever scheduled to run the 3000m?

not now he ain't!

3.000m

Lane Bibnr Name Nat. Personal Best Date of Birth

1 El Guerrouj, Hicham MAR 7.23.09 14-9-1974

2 Kipchoge, Eliud KEN 7.27.72 5-11-1984

3 Liefers, Gert-Jan NED 7.42.95 26-9-1978

4 Kwalia, James KEN 7.28.28 12-6-1984

5 Songok, Boniface KEN 7.30.62 25-12-1980

7 Bellani, Hicham MAR 7.37.68 15-9-1979

8 Koech, Enock KEN 3.31.28 4-4-1981

9 Songok, Isaac KEN 7.46.6 25-4-1984

10 Higuero, Juan Carlos ESP 7.59.76 3-8-1978

11 Tahri, Bouabdellah FRA 7.46.7 20-12-1978

12 Compernolle, Tom BEL 7.50.32 13-11-1975

13 Outaleb, Mohcine MAR 3.38.12 22-2-1978

5.000m

Lane Bibnr Name Nat. Personal Best Date of Birth

1 Sihine, Sileshi ETH 12.47.04 1-1-1983

2 Choge, Augustine KEN 12.57.01 21-1-1987

3 Limo, Richard KEN 12.56.72 19-11-1980

4 Bett, Mark KEN 12.55.63 15-7-1976

5 Kemboi, Nicholas KEN 13.01.14 25-11-1983

6 Mosop, Moses KEN 13.09.68 17-7-1985

7 Chenonge, Hillary KEN 13.06.47 30-5-1985

8 Bilal Salem, Jamal QAT 13.19.92 12-9-1978

9 Abshiro, Tessema ETH 13.47.75 9-12-1986

10 Lagat, Nathan KEN 13.19.89

11 Weidlinger, Günther AUT 13.17.59 5-4-1978

12 Fitschen, Jan GER 13.26.68 2-5-1977

10.000m

Lane Bibnr Name Nat. Personal Best Date of Birth

1 Bekele, Kenenisa ETH 26.20.31 20-6-1982

2 Dinkessa, Abebe ETH 27.23.60 6-3-1984

3 Kiprop, Boniface UGA 27.04.00 12-10-1985

4 Kipyego Kiprop, KEN 28.18.94 16-7-1986

5 Mezgebu, Assefa ETH 26.49.90 19-6-1978

6 Goumri, Abderahim MAR 27.26.01 21-5-1976

7 Yuda, John TAN 27.06.17 9-6-1979

8 Abate, Abiyote ETH 13.00.36 20-11-1980

9 Wanjiru, Samuel KEN 27.08.00 10-11-1986

10 Busienei, Wilson UGA 27.29.95 18-8-1981

11 Abdirahman, Abdi USA 27.34.24 1-1-1977

12 Kosgei, Barnabas KEN 29.05.9 20-8-1986

13 El Aamri, Khalid MAR 28.07.92 22-3-1977

14 Kibiwott, Francis KEN 28.34 15-9-1978

Did anyone notice Abdi Abdirahman (USA) was in the 10000m? I wonder if Samuel Wanjiru (Ken) take the world junior record under 27 minutes? Samuel is undefeated in the 10000m this year with 27:32 and 27:08.00; however, he is going against Kenenisa and possibly pulled to a WJR.

yeah i did when the startlists were posted a week ago. guess no one remembered. then again i don't remember which name i posted under either.

Sure Vipam, just wait and see if he's on the startline....

Its going to be extremely difficult for Kenenisa Bekele to run his potential unless he gets cooperation from his teammates. The Kenyan Federation stated it frowned upon their top runners being used to pace Ethiopians. Although I think the top Kenyans would disobey their Federation if the person they were asked to pace wasn't Kenenisa Bekele (one man who have not only robbed them but beat them senseless in their first love X-COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIPS).

When you have pacesetters only able to take the runner thru 6 of 25 laps the record almost certainly not going to be broken. Kenenisa Bekele still gave a great effort along with his young countryman. The same can be said for the women unless more cooperation is given by the Ethiopian teammates (women)the 30 minute barrier and for Kenenisa Bekele (the world record) will not be broken as often as it could be by capable athletes.

Bekele will break the 10,000m world record this year (2005). He will run under 26.20.00.

I strongly believe that.

NativeSon

I agree with you in that Bekele is capable of breaking the world record and is capable of much faster with better pacing. Kenenisa in my opinion could run around 26:12 this year but it would require pacers to go further than most are capable. The runners who are capable are good enough to get 2nd and 3rd in those races; therefore, will make more money racing than pacing.

that has been the same problem for the 10000m WR's the last 8 years or so Vipam. this is nothing new. it will happen.

The problem was never as dire as it is with Kenenisa Bekele. When Haile was setting his 10000m world records he had the Kenyans and sometimes his countrymen to aid him in the pacing and they went past 2400m. The Kenyan Federation come out and stated rather harshly that they, "do not like their top runners pacing other countries (Ethiopia) to world records, that they (Kenyans) could possible break). His countrymen either are readily to pace Kenenisa or he doesn't ask them; however, it is more of a problem now than ever.

I agree that it will happen and the world record will be broken. Kenenisa will break the record again but he is missing out on opportunities to lower it significantly because of the pacing problems.

Vipam wrote:

The problem was never as dire as it is with Kenenisa Bekele. When Haile was setting his 10000m world records he had the Kenyans and sometimes his countrymen to aid him in the pacing and they went past 2400m. The Kenyan Federation come out and stated rather harshly that they, "do not like their top runners pacing other countries (Ethiopia) to world records, that they (Kenyans) could possible break). His countrymen either are readily to pace Kenenisa or he doesn't ask them; however, it is more of a problem now than ever.

I agree that it will happen and the world record will be broken. Kenenisa will break the record again but he is missing out on opportunities to lower it significantly because of the pacing problems.

Yes, what a "dire" world crisis this is.

Vipam, you don't know what the heck you are talking about.

I have all those races on tape. Gebrselassie was left out in the cold on his own many, MANY times. On other occasions his pacemakers royally screwed up the early laps, taking him through checkpoints way behind schedule and him having to dig himself out of a hole. Great runners make their own pace. Pacemakers are overrated. Put some lights on the track and have him follow them at the right pace. Also, to reiterate, your habit of predicting things as though they will subsequently occur FOR CERTAIN ("Bekele WILL run 26:15. (add 8 decimals) and he WILL set a WR") is not only annoying but makes it especially amusing when you turn out to be DEAD WRONG as you were about Hengelo!

facts wrote:

care to make it interesting???

the guy's an enormous talent, but you obviously have no idea how fast 12:39/26:22 is... i'll wager everything i own that he doesn't get either record... how about you???

anyone take this guy up on his offer?