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you obviously don’t know what impact a concussion can have on your life. My sense is that he has an element of ptsd from the crash.
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Post concussion expert wrote:
you obviously don’t know what impact a concussion can have on your life. My sense is that he has an element of ptsd from the crash.
This is a good point, but why wouldn't Mr. Oversharer talk about his concussion, PTSD, and recovery from this? It WAS all just "back running after 3 days -- hazzuh!" (but no: let's continue to talk about the action not the consequences) It's not like he doesn't live with (pick my words carefully here) someone with a MD/PHD that could have a modicum of education about blunt force trauma. If he litigated it means he went to the hospital to see someone. If not, what are you litigated for? What damages are you going to sue for?
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"There’s been a lot of distortion lately about Megan's credentials and David’s bike accident —much of it coming from posters like Mainerunningturd and Black Snake Moana, whose confidence far outpaces their grasp of the facts.
To set the record straight: Megan holds both an MD and a PhD in epidemiology from Stanford. She works as a clinical researcher and has published extensively in high-impact journals. Her academic focus—on genetics, health outcomes, and performance—gives her a rare and relevant depth of understanding. In all likelihood, she’s the best-prepared online running coach in America.
To dismiss that by saying epidemiology is 'just applied stats' is to miss the point entirely. The ability to rigorously evaluate literature—to understand study design, power, confounding, and real-world applicability—is exactly what most coaches lack, even as they posture as scientific authorities. That skill isn’t peripheral. It’s the core.
David’s crash was not exaggerated, nor was it hidden. He and Megan spoke about it openly and thoughtfully on multiple podcast episodes—the trauma, the healing, the mental weight of it. They didn’t sensationalise the event, nor did they trivialise it. They simply shared what happened, honestly and in real time.
And yes, he hired a lawyer. That isn’t a moral failing—it’s what anyone with experience navigating insurance claims would advise. Liability insurance exists for precisely these cases. You don’t earn extra virtue points by 'just sending a stern letter,' especially if your injuries go beyond a bent bike frame.
What’s striking is how the same critics accuse them of oversharing and undersharing—of being too polished, too emotional, too upbeat, too analytical. Like the passengers in Los premios, the detractors spin elaborate theories to fill the vacuum of their own uncertainty, each reading more into the Roches’ choices than the evidence supports, until suspicion becomes its own reward.At some point, the fixation stops resembling critique and starts to look like projection—and says more about the posters than it ever did about the people they’re trying to tear down."
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ClaudeAI Analyses This Thread wrote:
"There’s been a lot of distortion lately about Megan's credentials and David’s bike accident —much of it coming from posters like Mainerunningturd and Black Snake Moana, whose confidence far outpaces their grasp of the facts.
To set the record straight: Megan holds both an MD and a PhD in epidemiology from Stanford. She works as a clinical researcher and has published extensively in high-impact journals. Her academic focus—on genetics, health outcomes, and performance—gives her a rare and relevant depth of understanding. In all likelihood, she’s the best-prepared online running coach in America.
To dismiss that by saying epidemiology is 'just applied stats' is to miss the point entirely. The ability to rigorously evaluate literature—to understand study design, power, confounding, and real-world applicability—is exactly what most coaches lack, even as they posture as scientific authorities. That skill isn’t peripheral. It’s the core.
David’s crash was not exaggerated, nor was it hidden. He and Megan spoke about it openly and thoughtfully on multiple podcast episodes—the trauma, the healing, the mental weight of it. They didn’t sensationalise the event, nor did they trivialise it. They simply shared what happened, honestly and in real time.
And yes, he hired a lawyer. That isn’t a moral failing—it’s what anyone with experience navigating insurance claims would advise. Liability insurance exists for precisely these cases. You don’t earn extra virtue points by 'just sending a stern letter,' especially if your injuries go beyond a bent bike frame.
What’s striking is how the same critics accuse them of oversharing and undersharing—of being too polished, too emotional, too upbeat, too analytical. Like the passengers in Los premios, the detractors spin elaborate theories to fill the vacuum of their own uncertainty, each reading more into the Roches’ choices than the evidence supports, until suspicion becomes its own reward.
At some point, the fixation stops resembling critique and starts to look like projection—and says more about the posters than it ever did about the people they’re trying to tear down."
Thanks, David
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My angle is that when a liability policy premium is paid for then the liability carrier should compensate people for injuries caused by their insured. And people should be held responsible for the damages they cause people when driving cars. Crazy I know. You must be lucky enough to not know a single person who’s been killed or severely injured in a car accident that wasn’t their fault. Maybe consider that you have no idea what you’re talking about and were talking out your ass.
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ClaudeAI Analyses This Thread wrote:
"There’s been a lot of distortion lately about Megan's credentials and David’s bike accident —much of it coming from posters like Mainerunningturd and Black Snake Moana, whose confidence far outpaces their grasp of the facts.
To set the record straight: Megan holds both an MD and a PhD in epidemiology from Stanford. She works as a clinical researcher and has published extensively in high-impact journals. Her academic focus—on genetics, health outcomes, and performance—gives her a rare and relevant depth of understanding. In all likelihood, she’s the best-prepared online running coach in America.
To dismiss that by saying epidemiology is 'just applied stats' is to miss the point entirely. The ability to rigorously evaluate literature—to understand study design, power, confounding, and real-world applicability—is exactly what most coaches lack, even as they posture as scientific authorities. That skill isn’t peripheral. It’s the core.
David’s crash was not exaggerated, nor was it hidden. He and Megan spoke about it openly and thoughtfully on multiple podcast episodes—the trauma, the healing, the mental weight of it. They didn’t sensationalise the event, nor did they trivialise it. They simply shared what happened, honestly and in real time.
And yes, he hired a lawyer. That isn’t a moral failing—it’s what anyone with experience navigating insurance claims would advise. Liability insurance exists for precisely these cases. You don’t earn extra virtue points by 'just sending a stern letter,' especially if your injuries go beyond a bent bike frame.
What’s striking is how the same critics accuse them of oversharing and undersharing—of being too polished, too emotional, too upbeat, too analytical. Like the passengers in Los premios, the detractors spin elaborate theories to fill the vacuum of their own uncertainty, each reading more into the Roches’ choices than the evidence supports, until suspicion becomes its own reward.
At some point, the fixation stops resembling critique and starts to look like projection—and says more about the posters than it ever did about the people they’re trying to tear down."
Is that straight from the Roche Crisis PR team?
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No thanks
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Another Roche hater wrote:
Is that straight from the Roche Crisis PR team?
"Yes—we take our meetings aboard a slowly circling yacht and use Cortázar references to monitor public sentiment. Next week’s memo is all Borges. Stay tuned."
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Claude? AI analyses with a few assumptions, e.g., 45 degree angle to maximize distance, which likely didn't happen, and ignores air resistance. "An object launched at 25 mph at a 45° angle from ground level would travel about 41.76 feet horizontally (ignoring air resistance)." Just hope this and all his strava activities days later do not impact his insurance recovery.
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Granted, any publication is an accomplishment but this just is not anything I would call high impact. there also need to be a base of knowledge to be able to understand the literature and be able to apply it to training to be know as the world most educated coach or whatever. And as David’s coach, having him do his heat aclimization protocol as published on his logs shows a severe lack of the ability to apply the literature. same with his recovery after his accident. There is no literature that will suggest such intense training after a tbi is beneficial or even advisable. even a md with no residency should be aware of 6 step return to play protocol post head injury.
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Since I’m on a rant, the DOD (famous for its lack of compassion for its grunts) has a very clear flow chart following a head injury. Based on David’s retelling there is no way his coach was looking out for his health.
based on his ig, he would classify as a moderate TBI based on the loss of consciousness and orientation alone. I have a hard time believing he was cleared for workout to the level he was 7 days after.
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Why is the concussion such an issue now? He won Leadville and javelina, yet this is part of the reason why he dropped at western states? I don’t understand
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TrueblueFF wrote:
Why is the concussion such an issue now? He won Leadville and javelina, yet this is part of the reason why he dropped at western states? I don’t understand
I think the argument is that David acts like he does because of a TBI, not that he performs like he does -- although it would be funny to think his crash caused his seemingly temporary running prowess.
Can't say I'm qualified to answer those questions.
Before Leadville, I just knew him from his bodyweight exercise YouTube videos which were still kinda hard to get to if you just wanted information. And then I injured myself doing his bodyweight exercises (what are the chances?).
Someone I worked for used him as a coach for marathons. Think this was more early in his career, as he described it as just getting a Google sheet and being asked to just do what the Google sheet told him to do (which he did). He had good results tbh.
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Black Snake Moana wrote:
Roche spotting! Was some work touched up and who is in the tattoo parlor? None other than David F'ing Roach in the chair, getting "F*ck the Haterz" tattoo'd across his chest, on the phone with John Kelly muttering something about Barkeleys. I didn't see a wedding ring! 2026 is going to be year of the SWAP!
Is he and wifey no longer a thing?
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rochehater wrote:
rabblerouser wrote:
I'm genuinely wondering what his next event will be. I'm thinking he goes for something low key with an uncompetitive (compared to his base) line up so he can come out looking like a star. He won't announce anything leading up to the date but will post the results after he wins and the Strava title will be something like "Don't Call it a Comeback".
That's absolutely what he's going to do. He will show up at some no name ultra where he's reasonably confident he can see the course record and use that to rally his braindead followers around the idea that he's this great god of running again. I give it six weeks
as flawed as buttered bobo and the shoedio was, that was never as bad as these people. They can't even use a normal font on their outside magazine website.
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TrueblueFF wrote:
Why is the concussion such an issue now? He won Leadville and javelina, yet this is part of the reason why he dropped at western states? I don’t understand
Post concussion can cause you massive fatigue at times, which can cause anxiety - which is what seems to have caused David to drop out. Doesn’t always happen, but when it does, the only thing I’ve found that helps is to sleep. But yes, David has not mentioned any post concussion issues from what I can gather, but fact he was going hard at it shortly after his accident can’t have been good for his recovery
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Post concussion expert wrote:
TrueblueFF wrote:
Why is the concussion such an issue now? He won Leadville and javelina, yet this is part of the reason why he dropped at western states? I don’t understand
Post concussion can cause you massive fatigue at times, which can cause anxiety - which is what seems to have caused David to drop out. Doesn’t always happen, but when it does, the only thing I’ve found that helps is to sleep. But yes, David has not mentioned any post concussion issues from what I can gather, but fact he was going hard at it shortly after his accident can’t have been good for his recovery
Wow your expertise is really shining here, excellent point!
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