I hope the channel stays around long enough to finally capture that coming of age family vlog when one of Seth's son's comes to him and asks "Papa can you teach me how to shave.....my legs?"
If you watch his videos to mock him or watch his videos because you love him, aren't you just making him the same amount of money? I enjoy seeing him mocked because of how awful his videos are, but I feel like in the end all these Seth threads do, especially when you link to his videos, is make him money. Don't you all worry that these threads are just adding life to his YouTube "career"?
As much as I enjoy coming on here and making fun of Seth for his terrible videos and grating personality, I don't actually hate the guy and actively wish for his channel to fail (I just think it's happening regardless of what I do or don't want). In fact, part of me hopes he keeps at it for as long as possible because I'll miss the daily snark once he finally throws in the towel. So no, I'm not bothered if my occasional hate-watching gives him another dollar or two per month. It's the least I can do for the entertainment he provides lol.
Agree. I don't hate the dude and I'm glad his efforts yielded something for him and his family. As someone else mentioned, there was something about the old shed days, freezing in winter doing shoe reviews. With more subs post his road marathons, the stubbornness in his training and the subtle ways he takes advantage of his audience have steadily grown. He used to be hokey but I'd say more genuine in his advice. Now its too much about this DGR brand where he is the leader (it's not a family). I'm totally here for the increasingly ludicrous shoe reviews though.
There was a comment on (I think) his vid yesterday, someone saying they would get a pair of vaporflys if they broke 2 hours in the half. These are his core people, and these people are why Seth shouldn't be spruiking the tape as some miracle cure/speed enhancer. They are also why if he wants to spruik something, his plyometrics video are a much better approach.
I'd have no problem with him shilling KT tape but they he did was so off putting and took advantage of his core audiences vulnerabilities in being new to the sport or less experienced. Really, if the guy wants some money and free stuff surely he can plug the usual suspects of Keeps, Manscaped or some mattress that doesn't interfere with the running content. Then bookmark the ad so it can be skipped over.
If you watch his videos to mock him or watch his videos because you love him, aren't you just making him the same amount of money? I enjoy seeing him mocked because of how awful his videos are, but I feel like in the end all these Seth threads do, especially when you link to his videos, is make him money. Don't you all worry that these threads are just adding life to his YouTube "career"?
I have no problem with him making money off my views. Good or bad he entertains me.
I hope the channel stays around long enough to finally capture that coming of age family vlog when one of Seth's son's comes to him and asks "Papa can you teach me how to shave.....my legs?"
After being raised exclusively by Mom, having a largely absentee father who put his hobbies first and who treated Mom terribly on camera, plus going to Catholic schools K-12, two of his sons will come out in college. Hopefully, we'll get to see those vlogs.
I simply don't appreciate it when people knowingly mislead others for their own advantage. Whether it's faking the proximal hamstring tendinopathy, exaggerating the supposed benefits and purposes of KT tape, or making silly excuses for sub-par races, I have a low tolerance for BS. If someone is trying to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm going to speak up insofar as that action does not produce some other negative effect on me.
Additionally, the disingenuousness of what he's doing is troublesome. How is Seth actually making a living right now? Nobody really knows. But he's trying to sell himself as a fitness influencer, inspiring others. How is it inspiring to have someone with a secret income trying to make themselves seem like the epitome of a great runner, when that secret income is what gives them the free time to be a great runner? To me, the great runners are so great they are pro's, or they are the wicked amateurs who sacrifice immensely to get where they are. Seth is hiding his true life from his viewers, and we all feel suspicious.
So yes, I will continue to make fun of him and troll him. I simply want the man to be honest. I will treat him with the respect, compassion, and sincerity that he treats all his viewers with.
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Shocked that Seth has managed to put out 2 consecutive videos without much to criticize. On the plus side this is good for my work productivity I guess.
Turns out there's an inverse relationship between what Seth thinks is quality and what quality actually is.
Seth’s version of quality seems to be all about the gear and b-roll footage he gets, not the substance and the story.
Kind of like a rookie guitar player that thinks buying the nicest guitar will completely change his playing. The magic is in the fingers and the practice. The best musicians can make any instrument sound good enough.
There isn’t a camera out there that can make mundane tasks like eating eggs more interesting. Watching a great runner that has a lot of substance, advice, and experience to offer from an iPhone camera is a heck of a lot better than watching the nicest b-roll footage of mountain drone shots and someone plodding along at 9:30 pace, all while hearing catchphrases and useless information as background noise.
It’s simply not an interesting story anymore, people have seen it too many times. What would grab a lot more attention nowadays is making significant changes in his training and shooting for something more measurable and relatable like continuing to pursue the marathon rather than running in the mountains. He’s not going to get significantly different results with a little changes like adding a little bit of light lifting each week. I don’t know how he doesn’t see the trend that there aren’t very many successful runners out there that train like he does. 2:20 and below marathoners don’t run 120-130mpw in the mountains at 9:00 pace. They don’t wait until 2-3 weeks out to hit a couple track workouts and call it good.
Beating a dead horse here, but try 90-100 miles per week with more quality. Maybe a couple shorter segments at 110-120. More doubles. Run most of your mileage under 8:00 pace. Get on the track once every 2 weeks, do some fartleks, more frequent tempos. Document that and I guarantee he would get more genuine interest and attention because that’s the story people haven’t seen yet. The only interest and attention he gets nowadays are the people who aren’t smart enough to figure out that what he does isn’t productive and also the people who are watching the downward spiral.
This egg criticism is bizarre to me. We've got years of toasted Bobo footage, then, a few months back he jumps all over eggs, and we freak out.
It's just funny because:
1. It kind of came out of nowhere and then suddenly he's like buying multiple cartons of different eggs and trying to discern which ones are the best and have the most nutrients or whatever.
2. In classic Seth fashion, he seems to think increasing his egg intake is the missing piece in his training to help take him to the next level rather than reconsidering his training volume/intensities, periodization and specificity, sleep deprivation, etc.
3. Also in classic Seth fashion, his egg eating shots have become another staple of mundane and unnecessary footage that goes into his vlogs and makes them so predictable and formulaic.
But yea I mean the Bobo obsession is pretty funny too, don't get me wrong.
I don’t know how he doesn’t see the trend that there aren’t very many successful runners out there that train like he does. 2:20 and below marathoners don’t run 120-130mpw in the mountains at 9:00 pace. They don’t wait until 2-3 weeks out to hit a couple track workouts and call it good.
Beating a dead horse here, but try 90-100 miles per week with more quality. Maybe a couple shorter segments at 110-120. More doubles. Run most of your mileage under 8:00 pace. Get on the track once every 2 weeks, do some fartleks, more frequent tempos. Document that and I guarantee he would get more genuine interest and attention because that’s the story people haven’t seen yet. The only interest and attention he gets nowadays are the people who aren’t smart enough to figure out that what he does isn’t productive and also the people who are watching the downward spiral.
Backward and downwards.
Yeah, Seth's training is ridiculous. I saw he did a 25 mile run at 9:00/mile a week or so ago. His marathon race pace is what, 5:30/mile? What is he gaining by doing a long run at 3:30/mile slower than marathon race pace? That is such a huge pace disparity.
He say she does his easy runs at 8:30 - 9:00/mile. I'm a 34 minute 10K guy, my easy pace is around 7:45/mile. 9:00 miles feel like I'm working hard to hold my pace back. Seth is faster than me but runs mostly at this pace? Is this because he is bagged getting up at 3:30AM all the time and has no energy to run faster?
Another 3 minute video today with little talking and no egg shots. The "sabbatical" videos are better than his regular videos
Are they better? I guess low bar. These last two videos don't have any information that you couldn't find in thousands of other YouTube videos posted over the last number of years (or elsewhere on the internet), yet people are watching them. It looks like he is getting pretty much the same number of views (per time period) on these videos while doing a whole lot less "work". Seems like he's just experimenting to figure out how to maximize his work-to-profit ratio. If he can spend 1 hour instead of 4 hours and make similar money, seems like he has his answer.
I don’t know how he doesn’t see the trend that there aren’t very many successful runners out there that train like he does. 2:20 and below marathoners don’t run 120-130mpw in the mountains at 9:00 pace. They don’t wait until 2-3 weeks out to hit a couple track workouts and call it good.
Beating a dead horse here, but try 90-100 miles per week with more quality. Maybe a couple shorter segments at 110-120. More doubles. Run most of your mileage under 8:00 pace. Get on the track once every 2 weeks, do some fartleks, more frequent tempos. Document that and I guarantee he would get more genuine interest and attention because that’s the story people haven’t seen yet. The only interest and attention he gets nowadays are the people who aren’t smart enough to figure out that what he does isn’t productive and also the people who are watching the downward spiral.
Backward and downwards.
Yeah, Seth's training is ridiculous. I saw he did a 25 mile run at 9:00/mile a week or so ago. His marathon race pace is what, 5:30/mile? What is he gaining by doing a long run at 3:30/mile slower than marathon race pace? That is such a huge pace disparity.
He say she does his easy runs at 8:30 - 9:00/mile. I'm a 34 minute 10K guy, my easy pace is around 7:45/mile. 9:00 miles feel like I'm working hard to hold my pace back. Seth is faster than me but runs mostly at this pace? Is this because he is bagged getting up at 3:30AM all the time and has no energy to run faster?
To be fair, that 25 mile run did have about 2000ft of elevation gain, and he ran the flatter/downhill sections closer to 8:00-8:30/mile. The overall pace was pulled up to 9:00/mile because of a few incredibly steep miles.
Beating a dead horse here, but try 90-100 miles per week with more quality.
I'll beat this dead horse. I know it's generally smart to tailor your plans somewhat to fit your schedule and optimize your training, but I would love to see him just run something the out-of-the-book Pfitzinger 18-week, 100MPW (or even the 85 MPW honestly) plan for his next road marathon. I guarantee he'd crush his past times with the additional speedwork and the additional time he'd have for recovery not fooling around for 140 miles at a pace so slow he barely has a pulse. It'd also make for a great 4 months of vlog content as he documents it all.
I said Pfitzinger, but it can be Daniels, or Hudson, or a higher-mileage Hansons plan. Anything more structured and systematic than the homebrew monstrosities he's ran the last couple tries. Something based on an accessible book that people can go out and read and follow themselves and relate to.
Personally I think he has a better knack for the mountain running stuff, but if he's hellbent on the marathon I'm in on watching him give it a go at training properly.