I literally said it was a mass murder. you need to try. Try. try.
Spanky is not helping your case Hussars... He is on tape multiple times speaking about how to get Palestinians out of there and have some other country take them. Kinda Genocidish to me.
Gaza/Palestine is not a sovereign state and therefore the actions of Hamas on October 7th cannot be considered genocide. Only governments of states can be considered as they are the only entities with the capacity to do so.
War crimes committed and mass murder, but not genocide.
Genocide is not something tied to a specific type of person or group. Any government, organization, or group with enough power, resources, and intent can commit genocide. What defines genocide is not who commits it, but what actions and intentions are involved.
According to international law (the UN Genocide Convention), genocide refers to acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. Examples of acts include: • Killing members of the group • Causing serious bodily or mental harm • Deliberately inflicting conditions meant to destroy the group • Preventing births • Forcibly transferring children
I don't disagree.
Hamas does not govern a state with the capability of comitting a genocide. Sovereign states are the only entities capable of committing it.
That does not preclude the possibility of a non-state actor committing genocide, but it's not currently possible for that to happen.
Genocide is not something tied to a specific type of person or group. Any government, organization, or group with enough power, resources, and intent can commit genocide. What defines genocide is not who commits it, but what actions and intentions are involved.
According to international law (the UN Genocide Convention), genocide refers to acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. Examples of acts include: • Killing members of the group • Causing serious bodily or mental harm • Deliberately inflicting conditions meant to destroy the group • Preventing births • Forcibly transferring children
I don't disagree.
Hamas does not govern a state with the capability of comitting a genocide. Sovereign states are the only entities capable of committing it.
That does not preclude the possibility of a non-state actor committing genocide, but it's not currently possible for that to happen.
check out the tutsi vs hutus. most of the killing was not done by an official government. The government kicked off the bloodlust, but then it was just men with sharp sticks and knives killing other men and raping all the women. Still a genocide. indisputably.
makes no sense to say 'a real genocide can only be committed by a government.'
and hamas IS the government of Gaza, whatever you want to call Gaza.
Genocide is not something tied to a specific type of person or group. Any government, organization, or group with enough power, resources, and intent can commit genocide. What defines genocide is not who commits it, but what actions and intentions are involved.
According to international law (the UN Genocide Convention), genocide refers to acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. Examples of acts include: • Killing members of the group • Causing serious bodily or mental harm • Deliberately inflicting conditions meant to destroy the group • Preventing births • Forcibly transferring children
I don't disagree.
Hamas does not govern a state with the capability of comitting a genocide. Sovereign states are the only entities capable of committing it.
That does not preclude the possibility of a non-state actor committing genocide, but it's not currently possible for that to happen.
Hamas pretty much rules Gaza. They have been there for decades. You would think they have a bustling economy but their 2 biggest exports are ocean trinquets and concrete. What kind of people are incapable to getting a thriving economy?
Hamas does not govern a state with the capability of comitting a genocide. Sovereign states are the only entities capable of committing it.
That does not preclude the possibility of a non-state actor committing genocide, but it's not currently possible for that to happen.
check out the tutsi vs hutus. most of the killing was not done by an official government. The government kicked off the bloodlust, but then it was just men with sharp sticks and knives killing other men and raping all the women. Still a genocide. indisputably.
makes no sense to say 'a real genocide can only be committed by a government.'
and hamas IS the government of Gaza, whatever you want to call Gaza.
The Rwandan genocide was carried out by the Rwandan government and by militias affiliated to the president. Sure, they weren't official government agencies but death squads aren't usually "official".
The closest non-state actor to have carried out a genocide was the "Islamic State", however that occured in the context of state collapse in Iraq and Syria.
Gaza is not under the sovereign control of Hamas. As an occupied territory the sovereign is Israel.
Hamas does not govern a state with the capability of comitting a genocide. Sovereign states are the only entities capable of committing it.
That does not preclude the possibility of a non-state actor committing genocide, but it's not currently possible for that to happen.
Hamas pretty much rules Gaza. They have been there for decades. You would think they have a bustling economy but their 2 biggest exports are ocean trinquets and concrete. What kind of people are incapable to getting a thriving economy?
Hamas does not control utilities, nor does it control the air, land and sea borders of Gaza.
Therefore it doesn't have the basics of a functional state.
check out the tutsi vs hutus. most of the killing was not done by an official government. The government kicked off the bloodlust, but then it was just men with sharp sticks and knives killing other men and raping all the women. Still a genocide. indisputably.
makes no sense to say 'a real genocide can only be committed by a government.'
and hamas IS the government of Gaza, whatever you want to call Gaza.
The Rwandan genocide was carried out by the Rwandan government and by militias affiliated to the president. Sure, they weren't official government agencies but death squads aren't usually "official".
The closest non-state actor to have carried out a genocide was the "Islamic State", however that occured in the context of state collapse in Iraq and Syria.
Gaza is not under the sovereign control of Hamas. As an occupied territory the sovereign is Israel.
we can go in circles here on definitions of 'government' and 'sovereignty' but it makes no sense to say that a genocide can only occur if done by a government. What sense does that make? None.
It’s almost like the Department of Justice does not exist to deliver justice to the benefit of Americans. Instead it is acting simultaneously as Trumps in house legal team.
Kinda like you see in other Authoritarian countries.
Jack Smith was appointed to specifically target Trump. He was the epitome of lawfare.
Keep swingin' Sally. Your non contact rate keeps going up.
This is true. But Trump is playing besties with Pooty and removing Russian Oil sanctions at the exact time that Russia is helping Iran kill US service members. In other words, Trump is making it easier for Putin to indirectly kill American service members and Ukrainians.
Yesterday he said that Putin "wants to be helpful".
It will make no news with Trump but this would easily be slam dunk 25th amendment stuff with any other Prez.
Wait until you find out the US has been providing Ukraine with targets and weapons for years. Why is it only an issue if Russia shares intelligence with their allies?
See if you can keep the following very simple comparison straight:
America helps Ukraine with anti-Russian targeting, and Putin doesn’t like that. Makes sense.
Russia helps Iran with anti-US targeting, and Putin’s counterpart, a guy named Trump, seems to have little or no problem with it. Makes no sense, unless you’ve always dreamed of a treasonous president.
See the difference?
If not, you have unlimited free attempts at trying again. Good luck!!
I literally said it was a mass murder. you need to try. Try. try.
Spanky is not helping your case Hussars... He is on tape multiple times speaking about how to get Palestinians out of there and have some other country take them. Kinda Genocidish to me.
Arab leaders (UAE, Qatar, etc) would be perfectly fine if Bibi drove all the Palestinians from the river into the sea. But their people (the common citizens) wouldn't.
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