OFFICIAL LRC President Donald Trump SECOND TERM Thread

Ok. Let's call it a mass murder of children by the State of Israel.

The key is targeted based on nationality, ethnicity, race or religion.

Not every war does that, many wars are primarily fought between armies with some civilian casualties. Israel flattened large parts of Gaza indiscriminately and have sought to remove or ethnically cleanse Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank.

ok.

and we'll call Oct 7 a mass murder of 800 civilians by the government of Gaza.

so...we committed a genocide against the Germans in the 1940s.

got it.

Charge both sides with war crimes.

I don’t think it was International Law at that time?

“International law” only applies to weak countries. Go ask China how much they care about international law.

by that definition, how in the world do you have a war that is not a genocide today? In practical terms, how could any war not try to kill members of another ethnic group or religious group? Use your head here.

the only definition of genocide that makes any sense is an effort to destroy an ethnic group. That is not happening in Gaza.

Section 1091 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits genocide whether committed in time of peace or time of war. Genocide is defined in § 1091 and includes violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. There is Federal jurisdiction if the offense is committed within the United States. There is also Federal extraterritorial jurisdiction when the offender is a national of the United States.

It could be argued that there was/is an effort to destroy Palestinians in Gaza with a view to replace them in part with Israelis.

Complete destruction doesn’t often happen, it didn’t even happen in the Holocaust but it was still Genocide.

no, the basic failures were (a) biden wasn't made to quit at the first sign of senility -- which to me was his interview on d-day with ABC, the debate was only when the broader public paid attention -- and (b) the nomination race wasn't turned into an open convention or mini-primary.

i remember when they started polling potential replacements -- before biden even quit -- harris was one of the least popular dems, like 6th or 7th choice, polling below 40% of voters. she was a woman, which we still have an issue with, a bit abrasive rather than charismatic, and whatever biden had done would stick to her. biden wasn't quitting during his term which triggers a succession with rules. biden just didn't accept the nomination. an unpopular veep shouldn't have been the choice nor should she have been just appointed for us. had she gone through an open convention she'd have lost.

you needed someone outside who could run against biden as much as trump. that and the way the nomination was done was just anti-democratic. we had no say. in a popularity contest you want a popular person.

Trump literally campaigned as the 'no new wars' guy and just one year in, it's basically WW3.

And you still support the SOB. You can stop this. Get off your knees.

Idiots. Absolute idiots.

Axios:

Ten days into President Trump's Iran campaign, the war has gone global. At least 20 countries are now militarily involved — shooting, shielding or quietly supplying — while a widening energy shock punishes nations far from the front lines.

There it is.

Epstein dies in prison while Trump is President.
The DOJ closes Epstein's case while Trump is President.

Kash Patel has 1,000 FBI agents redact Trumps name from files.
Ghislaine Maxwell is moved to an Airbnb prison while Trump is President.
At the order of Trump, for a year GOP kept voting not to show the Epstein files while Trump is President.
Congress finally forces Trump's DOJ to show the files, but they miss the deadline and slowly drip out the heavily redacted files. Redacting the "wrong" people.
Trump is in the Epstein files over one million times. More than everyone else combined.

what doesn't get said is there is a hard right element in israel -- and bibi's constituency is the right -- that thinks -- as much as hamas and hezbollah do -- that god gave them title to the land from the sea to the river jordan.

and it's public record that some of the right wing people in bibi's cabinet said they should take all of gaza and tell the palestinians to live someplace else or die. which, well, is genocide. and of an ironic nature considering the holocaust history.

that being said, i think current reality is landing on a DMZ between gaza and israel. but the land for the zone will come out of gaza's land, and israel keeps allowing settlements beyond whatever border gets announced.

october 7 can't happen. terrorism can't happen. rockets can't happen. but you also can't kill civilians in large numbers the other way, or allow settlements that undermine the borders in one direction.

if what you descibe happens,. then we can talk about that.

Remember that Israel formerly occupied Gaza. but then Israel walked away and gave it all to the palestinians. If that is genocide, Israelis are really terrible at genocide.

genocide is not happening in gaza. replacement is not happening.

the intent matters. the germans INTENDED to destroy the jewish people. the hutus INTEDED to destroy the Tutsi people. both made progress toward those goals. those are genocides.

The Israelis are in no way trying to destroy the Palestinian people.

I forgot a new one we learned yesterday.

Under Donald Trumps presidency

When Epstein died the FBI was pursuing additional criminal charges against coconspirators but Bill Barr terminated those.

See. Killing over 70k civilians is not a genocide but 800 civilians is